Open 415: Bird 7P (Game Over)

[kondi2424]

So... all that's left is Bump?

[Thomith]

In case it wasn't obvious and to confirm it
I am the cop.

[Venmar]

In case it wasn't obvious and to confirm it
I am the cop.

- And you obviously got a scum tell on MrBump?

[Venmar]

* Scum Result i mean.

[Thomith]

Yes i got a scum result on Mrbump

[Venmar]

Hmm, i am just going to speculate here. Based on these findings, the last scum is either Kondi or Mattp, because i know i am town, and Thomith is most likely the Cop. ( This is all assuming Thomith IS the cop, and Bump is a scum. )

Now, i am leaning Mattp scum because Kondi has been correct with his town reads on me and MalaKitten, as well as his scum read on MrBump. Now i am trying to decide if Kondi could be scum who was making town reads on people he obviously knew were town and started to buss Bump hard, or he is just a town player with a good read on people this game. Although, reflecting to his town play in 0399, his town and scum reads were less accurate than they are here, which could hint scum intelligence in this game, but we also have to consider the size and people in this game. This is also where my suspicion of him as a good scum player come in, and i can't really figure out which side Kondi is coming from. Right now he has a 50% chance of being scum.

As for Mattp... yeah idk. I kind of felt like the argument me and him had right before Day 1 ended was a Town vs Town conflict, but since Bump is most likely scum and Thomith is most likely the cop, i am starting to rethink my analysis. Looking back at O399, his little debate seemed to be similar to the one he had with Om, but then again i might be wrong. I will need to reread this thread again because me getting a read on Mattp is pretty hard due to how abrasively and aggressively plays.

This is from my point of view and i know this is right given that Thomith is cop with a guilty result. From Mattp's point of view the scum is either me or Kondi, and from Kondi's point of view the scum is either me or Mattp.

This is speculation, and we need to wait for MrBump first of course.

[Thomith]

Venmar aren't everyones reads more accurate in a 7p game?

[Venmar]

That's why i said i said " but we also have to consider the size and people in this game "....

You're right though.

[MrBump]

Well this is annoying. I'm on holiday and therefore can't post much and come back to find Thomith is being hilariously hypocritical and claiming my role.

Before I continue, I am Cop with an Innocent on Venmar. Yeah, me claiming Cop looks back. I hate it when this happens. *yawns*

Lemme look at Thomith's hard softclaim first thing Day 2.

to begin bump started acting dumb about meta, when an established player would know what this is, especioully one from 2010, i mean COME ON! it is so fake it hurts, also bump pulls the "oh it was too long ago it would have changed" when i dont see how playstyle will change that much?

Look at my history. I joined on the 20th of December and my first game started in January. I instantly went on to do another Newbie game (a friend recommended I did two) and so I had experience as both roles. The only other game I'd ever played I joined in November and had like 25 players so pfft.

Anyway. I last played a game in around April of last year or so. I don't remember exactly, don't quote me. I hosted my first game on this forum at the end of June just as I left for holiday again which was awkward. I didn't join another game until September when my friend asked me to hydra with him, and I dropped out of that Day 1 because we played differently.

That was a last game.

First of all, on the subject of my meta. I legitimately did not know what the fuck a meta was. I like to think I'm experienced, but it doesn't mean I know every phrase. I recalled it, but I was simply asking to make sure and no one responded for a long time and kept on me for this.

Second of all, are you seriously trying to tell me that, as a human being, I do not evolve as a person over the course of a year? I hate to do it, but let's do a little backstory on my actual life. Last year I was in the height of depression, and was one of the reasons I quit this game; I couldn't handle it. Since then, I've become a lot more intelligent (even if I don't show it here >.>), a lot more mature as a person and I've got over said depression. I

am

16. Teenagers change. It's part of being a human. Are you seriously trying to tell me that you never changed the way you acted? I kinda realised I was a dickhead last year and aimed to fix that flaw in my personality.

Also, most of my meta is arguing with my waifu Olinea (I played every game with him and he quit; another reason I did), so it's not very useful.

Simply put, I was not avoiding the meta, I simply could not be bothered to go fetch "evidence" which wouldn't do anything for anyone. I could also see people legitimately trying to match meta up when it didn't match in the slightest and that's just frustrating.

I can count many posts of bumps that have no content at all, just ISO him, some posts he doesn't even look like he is trying to post content at all, yes there are walls, but why would town post if it is just a fluff post.

HYPOCRISY
HYPOCRISY
HYPOCRISY

CAN YOU POINT ME TO A POST

WHICH ISN'T JUST A TWO LINER ACCUSING ONE PERSON EXCEPT YOUR CLAIM

GO ON

Anyway, think of this for a second. Why would SCUM post fluff posts? Why would ANYONE post fluff posts? It's the same way that being afk does not make you scum. Being bad town does not make you scum. It's not as if everything that isn't 100% normal is scummy. Learn the difference between scummy and strange play.

I am 100% sure on this, and it should be obvious why.

Because you're scum and you're trying to push for game yeah okay no

The vote is just stupid on so many levels because it's just trying to push for a lynch. Three votes today and there's a lynch. Mislynch and it's a lose. Two of those players are scum. This basically means one off vote from a stray town (Venmar, MattP or kondi; Venmar is town though) can cause an insta-lynch. VOTING IS STUPID. EVEN IF YOU ARE COP. Voting does not make your post more valid or something stupid. It's not as if voting makes people go "oh shit guys he must be town he's confident"

No, it makes it stupid.

Thomith has posted nothing but fluff the entirety of Day 1 just accusing and tunnelling people and then comes out with a claim. SEEMS LEGIT YOU GUYS

Speaking of which, Snake lynch wtf. Okay so Snake should have been scum but wasn't so whaaaat. It's the reason I inspected Venmar; he was so adamant on lynching Snake. He's Town, though, meaning Thomith's buddy is either Matt or Kondi.

Now, this is WIFOM-y because Matt could have been avoiding Snake lynch because he legitimately didn't want the day to end or because he wanted to go "LOOK I WAS RIGHT XSYFBGSDUYG" and so on. Kondi's play seems almost careful, now I think about it. He's basically accused everyone in the game to keep everyone in the light as if he can go "SEE I ACCUSED THEM" so I don't even fuckin' know, yo. I wanna lynch Thomith today, but I'm not going to vote because that is stupid to do.

When I get back from holiday on Monday, Imma do an ISO on him if you want. I wanna see everyone's reactions, but be aware that I will not be online much today or tomorrow.

[MrBump]

Also the fact Thomith tunnelled me all day yesterday while not actually expressing any intent to kill me outside the start of the game certainly makes me feel he had this set up with his buddy to win the next day. In this regard, Matt is kinda eh on this cuz he's a replacement. That said (I hate to do this), TheTrollie kinda went "lol ur scum" with no reason behind it which kinda supports this theory.

[Venmar]

Way to make this difficult...

AAGHH

[MrBump]

Small thing but his first RVS vote was on me too. Yeah.

Ninja: WELL SORRY I'LL JUST CURL UP AND LOSE GAME FOR TOWN NEXT GAME

[kondi2424]

wut

Going to see the probability of a Thomith-Matt team. If it looks unlikely, I'm voting Bump.

[MattP]

Well awesome.

I'm going through every player again. This is all going to be from my perspective.

Let's start with Venmar. If Mr. Bump is town then Venmar is town meaning Thomith and Kondi are scum.

If Mr. Bump is scum then Thomith is town and either Kondi or Venmar are scum.

So we have the following combos left:

Thomith-Kondi
Mr. Bump-Venmar
Mr. Bump-Kondi

This destroys my Venmar-Thomith theory. So I'll go over shit again.

[MattP]

Matt vs Venmar is Town vs Town and completely retarded. I have a head shaped hole in my table. It's SO STUPID.

Before I continue, I am Cop with an Innocent on Venmar. Yeah, me claiming Cop looks back. I hate it when this happens. *yawns*

Then why the fuck did you investigate Venmar?

Scumslip lol.

Mr. Bump is scum and I don't even care.

VOTE: Mr. Bump

[MattP]

unvote

for now

[MattP]

But NONETHELESS he is scum. So the goal is to look at the interactions of Venmar/Kondi/me with Mr. Bump and see which one is his buddy.

[Venmar]

Kondi, don't you dare hammer.

PEdit: -.-

[MattP]

Way to make this difficult...

AAGHH

^Oh that was easy.

Venmar is scum with Mr. Bump, trying to soft push around a lynch onto Thomith.

[kondi2424]

Crap.

A Thomith-Matt team looks AMAZING right now.

Looking over Bump's possible partners.

[MattP]

Crap.

A Thomith-Matt team looks AMAZING right now.

Looking over Bump's possible partners.

Kondi, stop having tunnel vision over your Venmar read.

Why the fuck would Bump investigate Venmar last night? Seriously fucking think, I am not losing this game because of tunnel vision.

[kondi2424]

Anyway, time to claim, because apparently 5/6 players want me dead for reasons I still don't understand. Vanilla Townie. AND NOT ONE THING WAS ACHIEVED THAT DAY.

LOLOLOLOLOL

VOTE: bUMP

[Venmar]

Mattp is so bad with getting reads on me. Not even going to lie.

[MattP]

VOTE: Bump

GG

[Venmar]

Lol...

I blame Kondi.