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[drmyshotgun]

Don't think Kassadin is that much of a fool. :/
But yeah, I'm going to wait for reports.
Nacho, Thomith I think are Scum though.

[drmyshotgun]

No. There's still 2 days and 17 hours until deadline, we're fine.
I'm not the tracker, I'm not the psychologist. But we do need to wait before andrew's guilty before lynching because one of the only ways we can lose right now is if we herpderp quicklynch someone and andrew dies with his guilty.

Nacho said this when there was only 17 hours left.
Did he mis-read the exact deadline or was he Scum trying to trick us?
I've seen experienced players lying about deadlines or the Votecounts to get Newbies into hammering/not-hammering.

[andrew94]

vote nacho

[TeChNoWC]

Ok, ducking in quickly here. Got shit to do.

I would rather today not be rushed. Even IF we get a guilty, I don't want it to be rushed. I'm hoping to (when I get time) do a massive VCA and post it up, not just for today but leading into tommorrow. I also want to give scums plenty of time to talk so we can get reads out of the four unconfd as to who they think the last two scum are. This will help us make connections between the second and third scum if we lynch correctly today. Quicklynching will just minimize our chances of this being possible.

Andrew, did you get a guilty last night? This time I want honesty, no gambits.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: Kassadin

I'm the tracker, I tracked BK the first two nights, and I tracked Gunny last night, he didn't go anywhere. I claimed VT yesterday mainly because I figured that since Kassadin was on the scum team, he's been the one making the kills, so I figured the other scumbag would have to submit the kill tonight, and I didn't want to give them information by revealing myself since based on who it was, they might decide that it's less likely andrew could target them instead of me. And since andrew had a guilty that was guaranteed scum, there wasn't any particular need for me to claim since we were gonna lynch scum anyways.

[Nachomamma8]

No. There's still 2 days and 17 hours until deadline, we're fine.
I'm not the tracker, I'm not the psychologist. But we do need to wait before andrew's guilty before lynching because one of the only ways we can lose right now is if we herpderp quicklynch someone and andrew dies with his guilty.

Nacho said this when there was only 17 hours left.
Did he mis-read the exact deadline or was he Scum trying to trick us?
I've seen experienced players lying about deadlines or the Votecounts to get Newbies into hammering/not-hammering.

No, I said this when there were 2 days and 17 hours left. The tags that Chimera use to show deadline are countdown tags, which means that they tell you how long it is until deadline regardless of when they were actually posted. For example, if you look at the ones yesterday, you will see that they are now expired, when we all know that's not what they said originally.

[LlamaFluff]

Awesome.

Now we wait for the Kass result and then for the andrew "is it a guilty" result.

I want it to be Kass here but its probably Nacho despite the immense wierdness from Kass actions.

[TeChNoWC]

@Nacho: Ok, I have a ton of questions, so bear with me:

1. Why did you track drmy? Did you suspect him?
2. Let's assume for instance you are correct and Kass is lying scum. Say we lynch you first, killing the tracker, another player dies tonight and then we lynch Kass tommorrow. How do you feel about town's odds in this scenario?
3. Why would scum-Kass have felt the need to claim? How would this benefit scum? Though the fact he did it before andrew's guilty was given makes me think he freaked and thought he was the guilty, and tried to out the tracker before he died.
4. What do you think about DCL pushing for a Kass lynch?
5. Why do you think BK died last night?
6. Who do you think is Kass' scumpartner?
7. Did you crumb at all?

Andrew, I need your result now. If you got a guilty on Nacho, we need it. If you lie about having a guilty on Nacho, I swear to God, [insert nasty stuff].

[drmyshotgun]

VOTE: Nacho
Bullshit Nacho. Bull to the shit.

[Nachomamma8]

1. Yeah. I also figured that we had the most to fear from Gunny-scum, so I wanted a chance to catch him.
2. I still feel pretty good about town's chances, but they're definitely not as good as they would be if we lynched correctly today.
3. Kass claiming tracker means that the tracker who they were trying to find with the rasp kill was outed, and anyone pushing kass gets towncred.
4. More towncred. I don't think that he figured Kassadin could survive until LyLo, and so wanted to push him to a lynch and out the tracker.
5. Because BK was a PR, and scum are either confident andrew wasn't going to target them, or figured he was a psychologist and had not-kass submit a kill today to make them both immune.
6. Right now, I'm still leaning Gunny. I don't think it's thomith because DCL voting going from bussing one partner to another is really fucking weird. Llama reads really town because of the rasp kill and his response to it. I don't think that it actually makes sense for him to kill rasp just so he could point out what a terrible kill it was afterwards, and I think that shooting the PR he already pegged would be a better kill than an unconfirmed possible PR would be any day.
7. No.

[LlamaFluff]

Its probably Nacho-DMS

DMS needs to unvote so there is zero chance of a hammer without hearing real tracker/andrew results.

Main reason its probably Nacho is he should have countered yesterday so we lynch Kass and there is no safe scum kill submittal player. I think he would have noticed not countering simply leaves Kass as the obvious kill sender making him useless.

[andrew94]

i have a guilty on nacho

[Kassadin]

ok seriously, nacho is obvious scum now lol, he is scum!!!!
VOTE: nacho

[drmyshotgun]

Its probably Nacho-DMS

DMS needs to unvote so there is zero chance of a hammer without hearing real tracker/andrew results.

Main reason its probably Nacho is he should have countered yesterday so we lynch Kass and there is no safe scum kill submittal player. I think he would have noticed not countering simply leaves Kass as the obvious kill sender making him useless.

Yeah right. Unbelievable accuracy there.

[Kassadin]

Nacho visited BK btw

[Venmar]

Andrew has a guilty. I want to lynch.

But i love Techno, so i will wait.

[Venmar]

And he was tracked.

TECHNO.

[drmyshotgun]

Lol.
We get Nacho today, Thomith tomorrow.
Game has finished.

[Kassadin]

nacho 100% scum gg end of story,
i did post b4, who my 3 suspects are

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Nacho

Simple enough now.

[Nachomamma8]

andrew does not have a fucking guilty on me, wait for him and don't fucking quickhammer me

[drmyshotgun]

Ho ho ho.
Never imagined the day would come where Town lynches Scum Nacho.

[drmyshotgun]

Venmar, you may quickhammer. Let's not grant what Scum wants.

[Venmar]

No. I am waiting for Techno. He deserves to speak like he wishes to.

[TeChNoWC]

1. Why Gunny? With the way Kass is sticking up for Llama, and Llama being at least as equally good player as drmy (in my eyes anyway), why not try Llama?
2. Do the math for me. Humour me.
3. Possible.
4. It sort of came out of know where. Seemed more opportunist to me than bussing (given that our leads were going cold), but I could be wrong.
5. BK was effectively VT when not hiding. Unless scum anticipated that he would hide again at some point.
6. And what about the idea that Llama/Kass(whoever) had a fight that night in the QT and Kass submitted the kill early (I wouldn't put it past Kass to jump the gun), angering Llama about the kill because he wanted to kill Andrew?
7. Why did you not crumb yesterday?