In post 1199, drmyshotgun wrote:So what the hell are we waiting for?
Andrew said guilty. Guilty. GUILTY.
And we are letting a GUILTY player have some time before Andrew comes back on again?
What do you think Andrew will say? Not guilty??
Andrew might say 'sorry tech, I was lying again and got ahead of myself, let's think about this rationally cos Kass could be scum'
But we can all dream.
I also have a way of testing whether Andrew lied or not, so let's just play my game for a bit.
"TeCh was a textbook pro-town obv town all-around town townie.
the entire town decided to lobotomize itself and lynch the most obvious townie in the game" crypto
"Techno played a hell of a scum game, one of my best newbie scum players" bv310
"Tech, you carried my fat ass, that Vig shot took more balls then I had" AP
Gunny wrote:So people were talking about PL on Jackal or Kassadin?
Well I'm Jackal now so you guys should put away that PL idea on me.
Kassadin PL is something I'd push right at the beginning of the game, but no. I no lynch Kassadin. Ever.
Andrew, Llama, Venmar, Nacho is Town I think.
It's fucking weird how he opens up the day talking about policy lynch suggestions on Jackal and Kass considering no one has considered or talked about them for the longest time. But, more importantly, note how it's pretty fucking clear he stops reading right about... now. Yet, somehow he is now utterly convinced I am scum, even to the point where he sort of flails for a while into urging for a hammer before andrew gets back, which reads to me like he's a little worried that andrew will take it back.
And then, there's the good ol' confidence/reasoning ratio which is just way to fucking high. When we get to the point where Kassadin and I are dead, try asking him why he thought I was scum.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 1205, andrew94 wrote:unless both me and kassadinare scum together, you rscum nacho
An untrue statement, considering you lied earlier.
Anyway, you claiming Detective is sound with your guilty claim. Had you claimed Psych, I would have known you were 100% lying.
Pedit: Nacho had obvious reasons to be laying low if he is indeed a PR.
"TeCh was a textbook pro-town obv town all-around town townie.
the entire town decided to lobotomize itself and lynch the most obvious townie in the game" crypto
"Techno played a hell of a scum game, one of my best newbie scum players" bv310
"Tech, you carried my fat ass, that Vig shot took more balls then I had" AP
In post 1213, LlamaFluff wrote:Andrew and Kass both need to target in me/DMS/Thomith for the forced win since its a detective.
One that is alive will have caught/cleared someone, and we have a mislynch to burn so its a simple win.
1. Andrew lies
2. One of them will be dead tommorrow.
So no.
"TeCh was a textbook pro-town obv town all-around town townie.
the entire town decided to lobotomize itself and lynch the most obvious townie in the game" crypto
"Techno played a hell of a scum game, one of my best newbie scum players" bv310
"Tech, you carried my fat ass, that Vig shot took more balls then I had" AP
If they want to kill Kass on the offchance andrew is lying im cool with it since even if he is lying and is psych im essentially clear unless you want to argue that I made the N2 and only the N2 kill which is just a bad theory to start. Im not going to make a kill I dont want to and break what is standard play on what should be done. Either way andrew is the bigger scumhunting threat than Kass so its going to be a massive gamble if they want to go for Kass in the offchance it only creates a semi-clear.
Also yes. If andrew/kass get a negative it means whoever they targeted couldnt have made the kill so any kill occuring clears a player or catches last scum. Thing is just whoever lives gives us an alignment on one of us.
In post 1215, LlamaFluff wrote:If they want to kill Kass on the offchance andrew is lying im cool with it since even if he is lying and is psych im essentially clear unless you want to argue that I made the N2 and only the N2 kill which is just a bad theory to start. Im not going to make a kill I dont want to and break what is standard play on what should be done. Either way andrew is the bigger scumhunting threat than Kass so its going to be a massive gamble if they want to go for Kass in the offchance it only creates a semi-clear.
Also yes. If andrew/kass get a negative it means whoever they targeted couldnt have made the kill so any kill occuring clears a player or catches last scum. Thing is just whoever lives gives us an alignment on one of us.
Dude, sometimes what you say goes straight over my head until further rereads.
I must be thick or something.
What I thought you said earlier was 'kass and andrew can target the same person and tell us if they are mafia tommorrow'
I said 'no, one of them will die tonight'
You said something about 'they' (mafia?) wanting to kill Kass and not andrew because he is lying or something or other.
I'm not getting the connect between what I said, and what you just said.
"TeCh was a textbook pro-town obv town all-around town townie.
the entire town decided to lobotomize itself and lynch the most obvious townie in the game" crypto
"Techno played a hell of a scum game, one of my best newbie scum players" bv310
"Tech, you carried my fat ass, that Vig shot took more balls then I had" AP
Im going to play from your perspective right now and just pull out my index cards that I use at times.
We are going to assume that one of Kass/Andrew dies, and that andrew is a detective at this point in time. This means that whoever submits the kill will be noticed by either player.
There are three cards upside down, one is marked differently. When a kill occurs, we are able to flip one card instantly because its who the living player targeted. If the flip is scum, we catch scum. If the flip is town, it is assured to us that they did not submit the kill. Due to the fact that they did not submit the kill, they are confirmed town since only one scum remains at this point. If they did submit the kill, they would be caught. However a kill occured so they are cleared from having the ability to have performed it. Therefore we would enter tomorrow with only two cards left unknown if a kill occurs, and we have a forced win.
If scum no lynch, all cards are still unflipped, we lynch one (flip it) and then have the same situation as before but with two cards, again a NK that is not accompanied by a guilty means the last player is scum as it clears someone again.
This is the reason that town tracker and town RBer are roles that grow infinately more powerful as the game goes on.
It doesnt matter who they target, as long as they each attempt to flip one of the three cards that could be the marked one. It either catches that card or clears it as town, only thing that differs is who is alive at the end. Only way we lose this if Nacho is scum is if BK lied about a result.
