Open 410 Trouble in Paradise Game Over TOWN WIN

[vijay2vasandani]

it was because somebody asked for visions so i provided a story. basically, i honestly thought LS was scum and was WIFOMing us regarding the Jailkeeper TvK. That's what the story meant. I can break it down for you if you want.

[Sir Bastion]

Go ahead doesnt look like much else is happening...

[vijay2vasandani]

Well there was once this feisty wolf who wanted to eat all the nice juicy rabbits. Earlier in the day, he managed to corner one particular rabbit, but for some reason, this rabbit managed to wriggle free through the use of strange magics involving white light. Outraged and hungered, the wolf realised he needed this rabbit gone. But how can he do this? He realised the only way was to get the other rabbits to help him. But why would they listen to him, him and his sharp teeth? How then could he achieve this, this task of epic proportions? He thought and thought, and thought some more, long and deep into the night, until the very edge of daybreak where his eyes lit up. "yes," he says, "yes, we've got them now!" He rushes off to the nefarious depths of his dank lair and pulls out two glasses of wine. With a flourish and a bow, he offers this to the poor, innocent rabbits. Along with the innocent gifts, the seeds of doubt are planted. The whisperings of black magic, witchcraft and heresy, tales of white light doing evil things. However, one rabbit, gifted in both looks and intelligence, with a star emblazoned on his forehead, downed both glasses of wine (for this rabbit is not one to waste any alcohol, except for Absolut *shudder*) and exposed this evil wolf's treachery. The wolf screamed and ranted, but the rabbits were no longer under the spell of the wine in front of them..

It ends there. I love Bacardi.

Feisty wolf is LS because of his avvie, we are rabbits (taken from Jal's avatar). He cornered TvK early on, but he escaped his lynch with his JK abilities (magic white light because his avatar is a prism thing). Fluff fluff fluff, then he WIFOMs us by planting doubt on TvK's claim. But my story exposed it. And it was an absolute fail.

[Sir Bastion]

So like me you really had just suspicions of ls being too town for it to be true.


Hmm

We really need more input from lurkers...

[Jal]

@PV: Do you think TvK RB or saved Gunny? Why?

Sir Bastion

:

That's not what Vijay is saying. Besides, your little line of thinking here never came out as you were making an argument against LS, which wouldn't have cut it anyway. If someone seems too townie, they most probably

are

town.

[RachMarie]

Gunny and Tvk have been prodded. I really would like to see an increase in activity so I can do more VCs in this game...

[Jal]

Rach, if you weren't the mod I'd be suspicious of you trying to push a quicklynch.

Actually, this thread isn't quick-

anything

.

I just want to see more activity in the game and less lurking.

[RachMarie]

Vote Count 3.02

NO CHANGE

drmyshotgun (1) Sir Bastion
TvK
Sir Bastion
vijay2vasandani
Jal
PeregrineV


No Lynch (1) Vijay


With 6 players it takes 4 to lynch .

I would like to see MORE ACTIVITY here peeps. Or I may decide to shorten the deadline a few days.

Deadline is in (expired on 2012-07-28 16:17:07)

[drmyshotgun]

Prodded.
Still not scum, but still no clue.

[drmyshotgun]

VOTE: Jal

[Jal]

Yeah, not surprised after that horrible D1 town read you had on me.

I've played numerous times with Jal before, and he's doing exactly the same thing he does in other games. Thinking he's Town.

It was two games. One game where you voted to lynch me D1 and the other you thought I was scummy.

So is the consensus a no lynch or a Gunny lynch? I am ready to end this day regardless. TVK I saw you lurkin' about earlier. Your thoughts?

[vijay2vasandani]

Holy crap, why does that post seem super scummy to me?

Anyway, are we lynching shotgun or not?

[TvK]

I can't see a reason to not vote shotgun. And, man I have troubles reading other people.

[RachMarie]

Prodded Peregrine

[Jal]

Being that Gunny is probably scum, I'm more likely to think Vijay is town with that latest post. With Pv's doubts and Gunny's vote on me, it wouldn't be too hard for Vijay to try and redirect a lynch onto me and go full-steam-ahead in an attempt to save his partner. That, or Gunny is town and why extend the day by splitting the vote?

VOTE: Drmyshotgun

[PeregrineV]

Just keep in mind 517 when the new day starts.

Vote: drshotgun

[drmyshotgun]

VOTE: Shotgun
Bye bye I failed.

[RachMarie]

Vote Count 3.03 FINAL



drmyshotgun (4) Sir Bastion, Jal, Peregrine, Gunny. LYNCH
TvK
Sir Bastion
vijay2vasandani
Jal
PeregrineV


No Lynch (1) Vijay


With 6 players it takes 4 to lynch .



Lynch Scene coming up

Deadline is in (expired on 2012-07-28 16:17:07)

[RachMarie]

It had been a long, boring session and it seemed like most of the council slept or played with their cell phones instead of focusing on the decision at hand. Very little discussion happened. Tvk stated I jailed Gunny and that was why there was no death last night. No one really disagreed with him, but they did not agree either, instead the town seemed rather apathetic. Vijay suggested not voting at all this day, which was met with the same general lack of interest as lynching someone.


Finally as the sun dipped down toward the horizon, votes started piling up on Gunny. He needed just one more vote and no one seemed willing to post it. Finally, Gunny said, "I see how it is Fine I will vote for myself!" As he hung on the tree and gasped his last, the glamor on him ended and they saw that he was not what he had seemed to be. The mayor shouted, "I know him! That is Carlo Lorenzo who is wanted for several murders in another town. Good job you finally found one of them. They all went to bed that night quite happy.


drmyshotgun, lynched on D 3 is a

Mafia Goon

Night ends in (expired on 2012-07-20 18:48:52)

Please PM me night actions before then.

[RachMarie]

After a long, cold night everyone woke up feeling sure that it would be another night with no kill. They had congratulated themselves on getting the one and figured they were home free now. Unfortunately Tvk picked the wrong person to jail that night and was found lying in a puddle of his own blood just outside of the door of his bedroom. With the glamor gone, he was revealed as Kenneth McKnight, the mayor's father. As the dawn breaks and everyone trudges in the meeting room to discuss and vote there is an air of despondency.


Tvk was killed on N3 and he was a

Jailkeeper

With 4 it takes 3 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2012-08-11 06:38:59)






Sorry it took so long, but I have spent 3 days trying to reach my dad to find out if he was coming down this weekend to find out he had a bad week with the chemo and radiation this week. He is going to try next weekend and let me know by Thursday night. Also STILL waiting on my results from the sleep study.

[Jal]

This seems like the most appropriate time to No Lynch if ever.

[Jal]

S'okay Bastion scum. There's no need to lurk.

[Sir Bastion]

oh noes Jal you genius investigator....


well not really.

So it's a WIFOM mylo.

hmm

a no lynch would greatly reduce the pool.

based purely on TVK's night actions I'd like to think I know who the scum is. But there is a lot of wifom involved as it involves deducting both tvk's actions last night (which should be straight forward) and the actions of possible scum during night 2...

[Jal]

Thanks for coming back into the thread and essentially saying nothing. Yes, it would be very great to know for sure what each party did. Why is knowing N2 actions critical to you? Don't we know their actions already?

Assuming TvK jailed who I think he did last night, this narrows the field down to two possibilities, and I sure would love to have one of you gone in order to confirm the other as scum.

[Sir Bastion]

I guess the poor end for LS during day 2 is making me more cautious then I should be. So I'm going to just go all out lylo thinking:

Why is knowing N2 actions critical to you? Don't we know their actions already?

See that's where we take a big dip into wifom territory

Let's look at the scenarios:

We had 2 scum goons and a jailkeeper

scenario 1

Night 1:

scum A killed
scum B did nothing
Jailkeeper locked Goon B


Night 2

Scum A killed
Scum B did nothing again
Jailkeeper: locked scum A


Night 3

scum B killed
Jailkeeper locked up town

scenario 2

Night 1

Scum A Killed
Scum B did nothing
Jailkeeper locked up scum B


Night 2

Scum A did nothing
Scum B Killed
Jailkeeper locked up Goon A

Night 3

Game Over

scenario 3

night 1
scum A killed
scum B did nothing
Jailkeeper locked up town

night 2
scum A killed again
scum B did nothing
Jailkeeper locked up scum A

night 3
Scum B killed
Jailkeeper locked up town and died

Scenario 4

night 1
scum A killed
scum B did nothing
Jailkeeper locked up town

night 2
scum A did nothing
Scum B now killed
Jailkeeper locked up scum B

Night 3
Scum A killed
Jailkeeper locked up town

this is why this round is a bit of wifom. If Peregrinev is scum then scenario 2 is the most obvious route for scum to take. It would be seen as a potential waste for the jailkeeper to keep locking up the same person so after he had been locked up night 1 he should have taken over responsibility for sending in the kills.

Yet that didnt happen. Scenario 1, 3 or 4 happened instead. So the question is if Peregrinev is the sort of player who either A) felt at risk at the end of day 2 of being locked up again, or B) Didnt think TVK would lock up shotgun. Or C) Is not our scum suspect and it's scenario 3 or 4.

Oh trying to outguess him is hard.

Occam's Razor says C) is our answer. With shotgun's hammer and the fact peregrinev had already been locked up he should have moved the killing responsibility to himself.

So that leaves vijay, you and me. And both of us are thinking the same thing. TVK should have locked up Vijay...there is no reason for him to lock up anyone else. If he did lock up someone else then that's sceanio 4.

So really the only people left is you and me. And I know I aint scum so it must be you...and thats scenario 3

And that's where I get cold feet.

Do I trust TVK to have done the obvious?

Does Pergrin cross me as the sort of player who would have changed who delivered the kill himself after he had been locked up once?

Why would you let Shotgun send in the kill at the end of day 2 TVK clearly stated he saw you as town (and he said he saw me as town too)...The only player who was at a serious risk at the end of day 2 based on their actions and how TVK saw them was Vijay.


The end result is 3 scenarios...one where tvk messed up and didnt lock up vijay, one where pergrin didnt think about the night 2 action and one where it could be either you or me but for some reason we let the player who hammered on day 2 deliver the kill.

So which do you think is the most likely scenario?