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Mini 1327: Murder in the Louvre- Day 6
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*cough* *cough* *cough* *cough*In post 2195, kanyeknowsbest wrote:good thing u didnt need a fakeclaim : ]
Well, the thing is. I had no plausible reason to pick up post restrictions. In addition to that, what I don't think you get is that the post restrictioni think that spring wanted you to be forced to claim mummy so that youd have a reason to use your pr body part stuff since the clues point to the mummy. so mean springchan~~is in and of itself a clue, just not one the mod directly and explicitly provides.
Also that's not even thesecondversion of The Broken Jug that I found in my research. What is this, I don't even, etc.Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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In post 2181, Oversoul wrote:This game was awesome
In post 2182, Zar wrote:I KNEW VI WAS SCUMMMM
I think the mod was causing the visions. damn you vi, superwell played. I got you there! but you quickhammered me nicely I'm guessing you didn't really 'by mistake' hammer, right? just pretended?
wonderful game. my pm:
springlullaby wrote:In post 836, Lucky2u said:
Rule # 5h05: players should not attempt to use or manipulate the mod for any purpose.-
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Let's go with that.~In post 2203, shos wrote:damn you vi, superwell played. I got you there! but you quickhammered me nicely I'm guessing you didn't really 'by mistake' hammer, right? just pretended?
I actually didn't want to lynch you, but 1) it happened, and 2) had I actually brought you to LyLo you probably wouldnothave tried to autowin with me, even though I had fought so hard to get that farEverything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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In post 2207, Zar wrote:Nuwen what was that batshit claim you came up with?
Just a batshit claim. My real role was investigate-immune possessor-thingy (where possession caused Parama to be the perpetrator of the scum kill). Two-man team.So high, so low, so many things to know.
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Magua Jack of All Trades
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Oh, this got unlocked before Flay got back to me about unlocking it for me. In retrospect, I probably should've gone with hasdgfas. Oh well.
Meh.
Being a bodyguard beloved princess is why I was so eager to claim a protective role. Wanted to get shot.
Game was meh. Would never have guessed that it was a 9v2v1 with a survivor thrown in. Happy with my calling of Yos and Zar as town. Sad that shos got lynched, especially given Nuwen's reactions to him in the thread, but as I said in the Dead QT, I'd probably be pretty suspicious of charter based on Nuwen-who-was-fakeclaiming-not-seeing-him-as-a-threat.
Still maintain that Vi's "I-don't-know-what-my-role-does" claim was bad and should feel bad, but can't overly much blame Zar for trusting his report. I would've gone for a third Mafia member over a bulletproof-and-essentially-all-but-investigation-proof-SK-in-a-game-that-already-had-a-survivor as well, had I lived.-
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Other things:
Setup, as near as I can figure out, was this:
Mafia (2)
- Furcolow (some form of rolecop?)
- Nuwen (Investigation-Immune Tracker-Framer)
3rd Party (2)
- shos (Bulletproof Ascetic Survivor)
- Vi (Bulletproof Tracker-Immune SK)
Town (9)
- Hiraki (Doctor)
- Yosarian2 (assuming he's not lying about his role, limited vig)
- Zar (Tracker)
- charter (flavor cop)
- Elmo TeH AzN (flavor cop)
- kanyeknowbest (flavor cop) [1]
- Parama (jailkeeper)
- UberNinja (flavor cop)
- Magua (Beloved Princess Bodyguard)
Investigative-wise, the town got hosed and the non-Town got hosed only if they actually fakeclaimed, which they had pretty much no reason to actually do. As near as I can tell, only one person had a role that required them to fakeclaim (Nuwen), and that person was investigation immune. Vi's role arguably required them to fakeclaim[2]...but only upon the fifth kill, so, yeah. The real point for the scum being that it was a Vanilla-less game, and only Furcolow had a power that was at all claimable as a town power. Taking the flavor cops out, town's only other investigative role was a tracker...who all the killing roles were essentially immune to, and town had one hidden miller for (Parama). So, yeah.
Yeah.
Protection-wise, the town had (as near as I can tell) a doctor, a bodyguard, and a jailkeeper, plus both third parties being bulletproof. This is where I feel the Mafia, in particular, got shafted.
As near as I can tell, the dreams/omens/what not were provided by springlullaby and not by any Town roles during the game (...and were the only even possibly useful investigations in the game, which is....yeah.)
[1] kanyeknowsbest had springlullaby broaden his role in response to UberNinja dying.
[2] I am amazed that springlullaby didn't think about the fakeclaim situation before the game started (as none of the scum received one as part of their role), and then after the game started, handled the fakeclaim situation in such a way that, given the incredibly large number of flavor cops the game had, had any of the scum actually made use of, would've doomed them.-
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Other other thing:
Survivor is a terrible role. Bulletproof survivor is even more terrible...er. Literally would've been a better setup in pretty much every way imaginable if shos' role had actually been a Mafia goon, IMO.-
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Finally, the only things I don't know are:
- What the Demotic script was supposed to mean.
- Why Zar's track of Furcolow failed N1 (but at this point I would not be surprised if Furcolow was also some form of investigation immune)
- Where the dreams/visions (eg, Hiraki's vision) came from (assuming springlullaby)-
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Magua Jack of All Trades
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In post 2215, Magua wrote:Finally, the only things I don't know are:
- What the Demotic script was supposed to mean.
Should've read Vi's spoiler about communication-with-springlullaby better (I skipped it originally as I knew Vi's role from collecting the PMs).
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No, I think Survivor and SK can win together.
But it would have been kind of hard to get shos to think of voting No Lynch in LyLo without either him thinking about it or me telling him. Me telling him means there's a good chance that shos-playing-Town would just vote me for the effort.
LOL Magua was a B.Princess. Wasn't that Katsuki's slot?
Although I kind of like the B.Princess/Bodyguard duality.
Again making clear that fake flavor claim != fake role claim.Vi's role arguably required them to fakeclaim[2]...but only upon the fifth kill, so, yeah.Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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In post 2218, Zar wrote:Not exactly excited that all the antitown elements were untraceable, but meh.
I wasn't immune to tracks if I submitted the kill myself, and I asked Spring how the possession ability would resolve if tracked:
SpringLullaby wrote:Possession and NK are considered independent abilities.
If Nuwen is blocked using possession, both the kill and the possession will be blocked.
If Nuwen is tracked using possession, Nuwen will be tracked to Polypheme Desroches, but not to the victim.
If Polypheme Desroches is blocked while possessed, the kill will fail.
If Polypheme Desroches is tracked while possessed, they will be tracked to the victim.So high, so low, so many things to know.
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Um. Magua. I was surrounded byIn post 2212, Magua wrote:Still maintain that Vi's "I-don't-know-what-my-role-does" claim was bad and should feel badextremely confirmable, unique, and flavorful roles, not to mentionthe mod explicitly telling everyone that the mummy was implicated in the N2 kill. "Bad and should feel bad" is pretty much the only option. I believe the phrase I gave s-lully on N4 was "I hope nobody notices me surfing to victory on an invisible tsunami of bullshit", because THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I COULD DO. I respect that you were able to see through it - and thanks for dying when you did - but don't hate.
Also, this is my 10,000th post onsite. I am now a member of the No-Life Club.Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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