Mini 1327: Murder in the Louvre- Day 6

Zar · Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:18 am

Problem I have with Charter Scum is I would have expected Charter scum to have gone full-on against me, and given Yosarian's advice and my end-of day comments it would have been expected of me to vote Charter without much questioning?

I am somewhat paranoid of being deceived by the piles of flavor of this game.

I'm going to go re-read both of you.

Zar · Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:35 am

Shos, are you saying you think spring's flip on shos covers his true role? Third Party Hard Rock Thingy just sounds like flavorful survivor to me?

Zar · Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:35 am

*EBWOP question addressed to Charter.

Zar · Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:45 am

In post 2152, Vi wrote:I have a question for you, Zar. What's causing your hesitation?

High levels of paranoia, despair of having lost the Scummies for not looking into every possible scenario + toying with the idea of an anti-town role sending delayed kills.

Deaths:

* N1 - Elmo - vigged
N2 - Parama & Kanye
* N3 - None
N4 - Magua
N5 - Yosarian

So there are five possibilities on N1:

1) Both the vig and the scumteam targeted Elmo
2) The Vig targeted Elmo, the scum targeted shos
3) The Vig targeted Elmo, the scum targeted Vi who was protected by Hiraki.
4) The Vig targeted Elmo + delayed kill?
5) The scum withheld? - Unlikely.

N2)

1) Scum Kill + Town role that gets killed if targeting Mafia?
2) Scum Kill + N1 delayed Scum Kill (?)
3) Scum Kill + Extra Scum Kill

N3)

1) The scum withheld?
2) The scum kill was prevented.
3) The scum sent in a delayed kill?

N4)

1) Scum Kill?
2) Delayed Kill?

N5)

1) Yosarian dies?

Zar · Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:48 am

I really don't think shos was SK, I don't think this game would be properly balanced with a Mafia team composed of more than 2 + an SK. I base this on the assumption that if shos were SK there is still one mafia left because the game isn't over.

Zar · Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:21 pm

Vi, what are your thoughts on this?

Zar · Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:53 pm

I am town.

And I need to go back and read to make a more educated decision.

Zar · Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:01 pm

In post 1749, charter wrote:I'm a flavorcop. I get some cryptic clues about someone's name flavor. It's why I was in favor of the massnameclaim yesterday, so I would have everyone's name to verify against. Night one I investigated Furc, last night I investigated Vi. Vi is a mummy like she claimed. As far as I can tell, my role is totally useless.

In post 1844, Vi wrote:

4) Here's my claim.

As the mummy I wander the halls at Night, practicing my moonwalk for the big surprise Thriller party on Thursday. I can choose a floor and I might find something of use, but I'm told that which floor I choose may have farther-reaching implications. I chose Second Floor Night 1 basically at random and got a scenic tour but that's about it. I tried First Floor Night 2 but got little more than attacked and sent back to my sarcophagus with a bit of a rough attitude. I tried Ground Floor last Night and got a visitor I was able to chase away before they broke all of my canopic jars. That's why I believe I was the target of a kill. With that said, being without most of my internal organs leaves me with a silly post restriction as a memento of the affair. But post restrictions are fun; I can make bird humor as we lynch the fowl villain I've been trying to get DEAD for
three and a half Days now
.

Oh, before I forget, I was raised up by a mysterious power of some kind. Which sounds like what shos claimed, hence that one line of questioning D3.

Any questions?

In post 1915, charter wrote:
Unvote
because I have no clue what is going on in this game and I'm not going to be the one to blow it.

Night one I targeted Furc because I thought his vote was suspect. I was told he was a young woman with brown curls. She was reclining and wearing some sort of dress of which I need to google later.
Night two I targeted Vi, I don't remember why. It was just a description of a mummy, it game me his height and is laying down wearing linen. Four vases are next to him.
Night three I targeted Yos, because he wanted me to verify his claim. He's a young woman with short hair. She is in bed, and has a gun by her side.

This supports his claim. I think his pic is of a woman.

I still think Shos is incredibly suspect. His claim is suspicious and his way of trying to discredit my claim reeks of self preservation, but I'll try and read some with a clearer head.

Also, I will most likely be V/LA until Sunday some time.

Vi mentioned the jars first than you did, though.

Zar · Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:36 pm

On the one hand:

- Vi's play feels more pro-town than Charter's so far. Looking at her interactions they don't seem to come from a potential partner.
- I don't think a partner would have comfortably agreed to comment on BOTH their team-members on D2 (See post 1258)

On the other hand:

- Why is she still alive? Specially after claiming to have stopped at least one death?
- Vi could be a Ninja? I would say however Nuwen's flip as Mafia Phantom makes it it's more likely for her to have been a Ninja, perhaps?

Charter:

- I don't think Charter is lying about his role. The fact that he mentions Vi having specifically four vases when she hasn't mentioned the number plus having confirmed my role flavor seems to demonstrate its veracity.

However:

- ViScum would have expected me to be more inclined to vote Charter over her?
- If, Furcolow's role made him an ascetic, like Nuwenscum claimed however, then Charter's result on Furcolow could be questionable?
- Chater has lurked most of this game and has not been active in the scumhunt at all.
- Charter accuses Vi of inventing the broken Canopic jars. Yet Vi mentioned her Jars first than Charter. He could have wiki-ed the information?

Zar · Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:29 am

Spoiler: D2 final wagons

.
D1 End of Day Wagon.

In post 1118, springlullaby wrote:

Day 1 Final votecount
(7) UberNinja:

shos,
Nuwen,

Yosarian2
,
Zar
,
Hiraki,

Furcolow
,
Elmo teh AzN
,

(2)
Hiraki :

Parama
,
charter, Vi

(2)
Zar
:
UberNinja
,
kanyeknowsbest
,

(1) Vi:

Katsuki,

(0) Not voting :

With 13 players, 7 votes are required to lynch.

Uberninja has been lynched.

You were also both in the Nuwen wagon, and you were also both in the shos wagon.

GOD YOU'RE BOTH IN THE SAME WAGONS.

*head splits*

Zar · Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:44 am

I am going to trust my action result and Vi's play over Charters.

VOTE: Charter

Zar · Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:57 am

inb4Viflipsscum

Zar · Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:58 am

Oh, and UberNinja:

In post 993, UberNinja wrote:Zar is scum. No two ways about it. I'll eat my finest feathered bonnet if he's town.

Please add honey and garlic before you eat it.

Zar · Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:41 am

Vi are you the SK?

Zar · Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:12 am

spriiiing! come take me out of my misery

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:59 pm

I KNEW VI WAS SCUMMMM

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:59 pm

well at least town placed second :/

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:00 pm

this is ridiculous there was no way town could win that game on endgame ;_;

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:01 pm

wait charter was town? EPIC FAIL

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:02 pm

or not? my head is still splitting from this game...

there were how many parties in the louvre game? four?

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:07 pm

no I don't hate you, you played your SK role well

BUT SERIOUSLY, 13 P multifactional?

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:09 pm

I really hope charter wasn't scum because 13 player with 3 Mafia + SK + Survivor is an overkill

Though Nuwen's role should totally be nominated for whatever role claim.

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:17 pm

springlullaby wrote:Hi,

I hope you are still up to replace as Fate had to drop out.
Here is your Role PM.

Role PM

You are
The Broken Jug
by Jean-Baptise Greuze. Inhabited by a deep sense of melancholia, you err the hallways of the museum after dark, travelling from frame to frame, hoping to find distraction to lift your listlessness. It is seldom that your attention is captured by the affairs of the human world, but the recent murder committed in your home has raised your interest and you have decided to provide your aid in solving the case.

Wincon

You dearly love the Louvre and will do anything to save it. You win when all threats to the Museum have been eliminated from the game or if nothing can prevent the same.

Abilities

Vote:
during the day, you may cast a vote which will count toward a lynch.

Curiosity:
Each night you may follow a player of your choice to see where they go. Be warned, not everything is as it seems.

The game thread can be found here.

Please reply to this PM to confirm that you have read and understood your role.

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:18 pm

N1: Investigated Furcolow (Failed)
N2: Investigated Charter (Visited Vi)
N3: Investigated shos (failed)
N4: Investigated Vi ("didn't move")

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:23 pm

Seriously who was causing the visions?

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:20 pm

you would have died shos, she was a serial killer >_>

TRAITOR

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:26 pm

Nuwen what was that batshit claim you came up with?

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:28 pm

Ah I see, so she was indeed Ninja SK

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:40 pm

well it should be nominated for best role claim, frankly.

Zar · Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:47 pm

In post 2206, Zar wrote:you would have died shos, she was a serial killer >_>

TRAITOR

no wait you were unkillable. >_>

Zar · Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:08 am

Not exactly excited that all the antitown elements were untraceable, but meh.

Zar · Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:09 am

UberNinja wasn't a Forensic Investigator?

Zar · Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:59 am

So the visions revealed Shos, Nuwen and The Mummy, i think?

Zar · Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:04 am

Yeah, this is a SK deja-Vu of 1308 ._.

Next time some sort of death scene flickers an inch of your flavorful role you will die in the pits of hell Vi

Zar · Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:32 am

glad to know my delayed killer role toying wasn't THAT batshit when compared to the setup.

I'm not entirely displeased with myself in this game.

Zar · Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:58 am

>_>

that play is pretty much Zar standard meta, tbf

Zar · Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:11 am

Zar · Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:25 am

I kept Voting Vi when shos and I had the Mummy drama

Zar · Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:00 pm

I really liked the flavor in the setup, but I'm still bitter as to there was no backup mod to solve this when it was needed.