Hindu wrote: Noone has even mentioned what I would say is my #1 town read so far.
So what? Frankly your top Town-read not being mentioned probably means people don’t find them suspect …
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Minamum wrote:Protip: catching scum is not combing through someone's posts to find two sentences that you quote with made-up context, and then screaming, "CONTRADICTION. SCUM! YOU'RE BUSTED."
Yeah, scum-hunting is allowing someone tracked to a kill to create a fake-claim and not lynching him which was key in letting scum win the game…. (am I doing the condescension right Mina?)
Let’s be realistic … it was hardly ‘combing through’ posts … they were made within 13 posts of each other. You seem to be suggesting I did akin to something finding some quote from Day 1 and trying to show how it didn’t align with a Town mindset to a quote from Day 3 (which is still valid scum-hunting BTW) which is rather absurd.
CES was trying to float that it is generally expected that a claimed Tracker with 2 shots of track is a danger to a Serial Killer. And that is correct. The discontinuity comes from him somehow suggesting that Llama (who is not an idiot) would disregard this and hide behind Once anyway. It’s a pretty ridiculous theory to float given what Llama said himself about Once’s claim – he found it credible. So CES is floating a theory that doesn’t make sense.
Trying to use insults and frame my post in a way that suggests my thought process as invalid isn’t very Town-Mina. In fact Mina Is the player who as Town decries insults (IMO) … Clash of Kings again comes to mind on this.
Minamum wrote:First of all, we actually weren't expecting OAFE to die before his flip on D2. Is there a reason that you decided to omit this relevant quote (which makes it pretty damn obvious Minimum never called OAFE "an obvious nightkill target", just speculated on why he died):
What are you arguing here? That CES’s did have any expectation that Once was a likely Serial Killer target with his claim? Highlighting the word probably in the quote you picked doesn’t change the fact that he again called it ‘Standard SK-Tracker interaction’. It isn’t something that he as Town wouldn’t have expected going into Night if this was the case.
So … is it a general expectation that a Serial Killer would kill a Tracker (as a threat to the Serial Killer) or not? CES can get on the horn and answer with a Yes or No.
Minamum wrote:Second of all, even if CES really thought OAFE was the obvious NK, maybe Llamarble would have thought differently. OAFE was under a lot of suspicion and still somewhat lynchable. Llamarble might not have realized that the tracker claim made OAFE a riskier hider choice. It's possible he tried to confirm a popular suspect whom he personally read as town. (Personally, I don't think there's enough information to be sure either way, but that's beside the point.)
Well maybe Llama was struck by Death Rays from Mars (had to use this classic Law and Order quote given the absuridity of this). Here’s the facts … Once being under suspicion is hardly relevant since Llama himself believed the claim. See
Post 430 as a reminder for you.
Llama’s not dumb enough to have used the Hider role that badly. He would not be hiding behind a play he graces with a ProbTown read BEFORE Day ended.
Minamum wrote:It's just null speculation over night actions. Whether or not the theory makes sense has no relation to our alignment. It's not like Minimum claimed hider who'd hidden behind OAFE (well, assuming he didn't die), and then said something like, "OAFE was obviously going to be killed by the SK last night."
Nope. It is not all ‘Null’ speculation. CES posited that Llama ‘could have been hiding behind OAFE’ (
Post 553 for the record) as his first line of discussion. Not that he hid behind Nacho (which makes more sense from Llama’s ISO than Once, although I personally don’t think it is what happened) but that he specifically hid behind the claimed Miller / Tracker who Llama specifically indicated wasn’t a likely target via ISO.
I see this a clouding the water type speculation as opposed to actually looking for answers and it’s why I find you guys scummy.
Minamum wrote: Did you actually believe that post when you made it, Magna?
Of course I did. Why would you ask such a pointless question? It’s pointless because the answer is going to be ‘Yes’ regardless of alignment so it’s just filler.
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AGar wrote:To bounce more off of Minimum, not only can anyone do that, but it really doesn't serve any good purpose. There are a million and one better uses for your time than to try and guess at who Llamarble might have hid behind and then try and post up a case from there.
Nope. A flipped Hider from a Non-Derp player means that ISOing him from breadcrumbs is a very useful activity. DGB’s Hider play in Dead Red Redemption (which shamefully got eaten by Tigers) was a perfect example of how an smart Hider plays the role.
AGar wrote:Shin's posting is just really bad, I'm not sure what to make of it. Pretty sure he's not Night due to the tail end of D1 from Staeg (scum gain more from a forceful push on their partner than a half-assed one, so so much more.). Could be Commexo, his posting feels all sorts of survivalish. Very reactive to events in the game, not very proactive at all.
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VOTE: Shinori
This quite frankly is terrible. You aren’t a newbie … you very well know that specifically hunting for a Serial Killer when 4 Night players remain is correlated with being Night. I’m going to have to decide if you would be so brazen as scum to do so …
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
