NY Mafia 155 - New Age Mafia II - Game Over!

[Flameaxe]

It fucking sickens me that we're going after someone who's legitimately inactive in umoms instead of someone who's outright refusing to play the fucking game like singer. The massclaim idea is eh, I think we have to commit to continuing it or dropping it right now before we've reached a point where we legitimately have to continue it. Rhinox probably needs to die at some point due to his claim, but I'm willing to wait to see what happens overnight before I'd commit to it.

I don't necessarily like Glork's play either but I still want to see us lynching people who are actively stalling this game as opposed to the person who came up with a dumb idea that gave them the excuse.

I like how this guy thinks, yo.

[JDodge]

I'm also going to preemptively bring up the idea that Quag has not read his role PM because I remember this being a point of contention in tree stump. Confirm/deny?

[Flameaxe]

To confirm you had to reply with your role, iirc. Doubtful in that case.

[JDodge]

To confirm you had to reply with your role, iirc. Doubtful in that case.

i confirmed with just the word confirm

[Quagmire]

I'm also going to preemptively bring up the idea that Quag has not read his role PM because I remember this being a point of contention in tree stump. Confirm/deny?

Correct, I have not read my role PM. But even if I had, I still wouldn't claim.

[scooby]

WE.ARE.NOT.LYNCHING.FUCKING,UMOMS

[scooby]

Also, VT.

Can we end this shit already? Who is left to claim?

[scooby]

Ok mr. jaydodge, I will now be useful
Quilford, bbm and you are townreads
umoms needs to MC

Aaaand I have no real scumreads

add this scumbag to the scumlist

[JDodge]

I'm also going to preemptively bring up the idea that Quag has not read his role PM because I remember this being a point of contention in tree stump. Confirm/deny?

Correct, I have not read my role PM. But even if I had, I still wouldn't claim.

I figured as much, just wanted at least one of the reasons out in the open. Care to give the other ones?

[Tierce]

That is against the spirit of the game.

I either want the mod to have proof that Quagmire read his role PM, or I'm replacing out. This is not a threat or a bitch fit, this is a flat-out refusal to play in a game where someone deliberately chooses to act in a way that invalidates D1 scumhunting.

This is an honor system; it's enough for me to have Quag state he read his role PM--if he actually hasn't, hell, that's something against him on an ethical level. But I will not play in these conditions, where a player says he's doing something that will affect the spirit of the game and is allowed to get away with it.

[Quagmire]

That is against the spirit of the game.

I either want the mod to have proof that Quagmire read his role PM, or I'm replacing out. This is not a threat or a bitch fit, this is a flat-out refusal to play in a game where someone deliberately chooses to act in a way that invalidates D1 scumhunting.

This is an honor system; it's enough for me to have Quag state he read his role PM--if he actually hasn't, hell, that's something against him on an ethical level. But I will not play in these conditions, where a player says he's doing something that will affect the spirit of the game and is allowed to get away with it.

That.... is a threat and a bitch fit.

[JDodge]

That is against the spirit of the game.

I either want the mod to have proof that Quagmire read his role PM, or I'm replacing out. This is not a threat or a bitch fit, this is a flat-out refusal to play in a game where someone deliberately chooses to act in a way that invalidates D1 scumhunting.

This is an honor system; it's enough for me to have Quag state he read his role PM--if he actually hasn't, hell, that's something against him on an ethical level. But I will not play in these conditions, where a player says he's doing something that will affect the spirit of the game and is allowed to get away with it.

can you play in the meantime while we're working out your moral issues? we've had like 2 weeks without those and all i've seen from you is "WELL I GUESS YOU DIDN'T READ SPACE MONKEYS LOL I'M CHANNELING GLORK-SCUM".

[Tierce]

No, it's not. It's a moral issue. We're all on the same ground, but you decided you had the right to absolutely fuck up any scumhunting you do or others do on your slot during, at least, D1. I will not play in these conditions. If you will not fix this, I'm replacing out--so just say the word.

[Staeg]

Okay well, doing a series of ISOs did the following: jd and quil solidified townreads, simenon kinda-townread, red kinda-townread, nhammen kinda-scum; UT was actually scummy as fuck and singer ain't done nothing to improve it.

unvote
vote: singer

[JDodge]

No, it's not. It's a moral issue. We're all on the same ground, but you decided you had the right to absolutely fuck up any scumhunting you do or others do on your slot during, at least, D1. I will not play in these conditions. If you will not fix this, I'm replacing out--so just say the word.

I did nothing of the sort what the fuck?

Okay well, doing a series of ISOs did the following: jd and quil solidified townreads, simenon kinda-townread, red kinda-townread, nhammen kinda-scum; UT was actually scummy as fuck and singer ain't done nothing to improve it.

unvote
vote: singer

good, now start explaining why

[Tierce]

JD, that was a reply to Quagmire.

[Staeg]

also, UT is hardcore lurking - he's definitely around, just not posting

I can't decide how I feel about umoms.

and umoms i had a reason

Good for you. Want a cookie?

I think umoms is town. His reaction to the wagon reads as town more than scum to me because I don't think newbscum would thumb their nose at pressure the way he did. I think we'll find scum as one of the dueling banjwagons that followed the breakdown of the umoms wagon, considering that we can find people trying to break up them both. Of the two, I find nhammen to be a likelier scum than Tierce.

unvote, vote nhammen

The post in-between is what apparently changed his "can't decide" to "def newbtown". Oh, and gut.

[Quagmire]

I'm also going to preemptively bring up the idea that Quag has not read his role PM because I remember this being a point of contention in tree stump. Confirm/deny?

Correct, I have not read my role PM. But even if I had, I still wouldn't claim.

I figured as much, just wanted at least one of the reasons out in the open. Care to give the other ones?

I've been against a massclaim from the very beginning. It gives the scum an early-game advantage to have any idea at what role I might be if I'm town.

[JDodge]

No, it's not. It's a moral issue. We're all on the same ground, but you decided you had the right to absolutely fuck up any scumhunting you do or others do on your slot during, at least, D1. I will not play in these conditions. If you will not fix this, I'm replacing out--so just say the word.

also can you explain exactly what scumhunting you've done that's been RUINED FOREVAR by this? cause i'm kind of under the impression that you haven't really done anything this game and it's making you sound more like you're leaping on an easy way of getting out of having to do anything than i feel i should be thinking at the moment if that makes any sense

[Quagmire]

No, it's not. It's a moral issue. We're all on the same ground, but you decided you had the right to absolutely fuck up any scumhunting you do or others do on your slot during, at least, D1. I will not play in these conditions. If you will not fix this, I'm replacing out--so just say the word.

I'm playing to my win condition no matter what I am. I've gone over this numerous times; find my posts about this in MD. I'm not going to go read my role PM, so if you're going to have a hissy fit over Shit That Doesn't Matter then go fuck yourself.

[Tierce]

@mod: Replace me, please.

JDodge, if you think I'd rather replace out than play, you really don't know me. I could have not signed up, I could have replaced out at any time. I'm choosing to cut myself off this game because I think this is a moral issue that cannot be overcome and would taint my enjoyment of the game.


Good luck.

[Primate]

Singersigner hate feels a little scapegoaty.

@Staeg: def newbtown is overexagerration on your part there.

(I'm mostly ambivalent here, feels like a prepared position from singer and don't see enough in UT).

@PS: Quag, I've pm'd the mod re: this and I'll probably go too if you don't know what your win condidition is.

[Staeg]

uggggh now tierce is probably scum, too

[Quagmire]

If OGML would rather replace me than stir up this drama, he's well within his jurisdiction. But I'm not going to read my PM.

[JDodge]

this is pretty much the dumbest shit ever, as a note~