Mini 1336 - Revolution Mafia Game Over!

[vijay2vasandani]

Oohhh doublevote yay

[MattP]

VOTE: Implosion

[MattP]

BBmolla is town and is scum's last mislynch to win, the wagon on him is scummy as fuck where as the implosion wagon looks a lot better. Implosion is scum, let's speed this up.

[Darox]

Grey isn't reading this game.
You make me sad grey.

Vote: V2V

[MattP]

Darox is so fucking scummy, why can't we start with his lynch again??

[implosion]

Spoiler: rant

BBmolla is town and is scum's last mislynch to win, the wagon on him is scummy as fuck where as the implosion wagon looks a lot better. Implosion is scum, let's speed this up.

...last mislynch to win.
right, right.
Did you read any of concision's posts from the last few pages?

Honestly, I don't know why ANYONE is confident in this game. We've lynched wrong four times in a row...

Actually. Let's look at this.



Elmo TeH AzN: spyrex, kuribo, Darox, Fate, Llamarble, kanyeknowsbest, implosion, bbmolla,
VoidedMafia - vijay2vasandani, KanyeKnowsBest, Fate, BBMolla, Darox,Kuribo, SpyreX,
Fate - MattP, SpyreX, Llamarble, CES, Implosion, BBMolla-
SpyreX - Implosion, CES, Llamarble, BBMolla, MattP, V2V

The following people, if they are town, need to stop pretending that they know what they're doing in this game:
-BB, who has been on 4/4 lynches
-Llamarble, who has been on 3/4 lynches
-MattP, who has been on the last two consecutive lynches
-CES, who has been on the last two consecutive lynches [although this doesn't apply to the regfan half]

I'll give kuribo a break here from this since he hasn't been on any since d3. Plus, the way he's playing right now makes me think he ISN'T being a conceited snob about his fosses compared to the rest of the game.

And dear god, guys, you look conceited about your fosses in comparison to KURIBO.

Note that i'm not saying that any of these people are scum for their voting patterns (except i might actually say that about BB). All i'm saying is that posts like these:

BBmolla is town and is scum's last mislynch to win, the wagon on him is scummy as fuck where as the implosion wagon looks a lot better. Implosion is scum, let's speed this up.

Darox is so fucking scummy, why can't we start with his lynch again??

^ What a terrible vote.

VOTE: Implosion

Regfan your reads are shit, Vijay is fucking scum.

Need to lose a hell of a lot of conviction. Yes, you can have opinions. Those opinions ought to have almost no conviction after your track records in this game.

Yes, i was on 3 of the mislynches. Funny story, i have almost no conviction in my reads.

So let's look at BBmolla for a second. He was on

all four lynches

so far. And yet he still manages to post with as much conviction as I quoted above. Either he's scum or he needs to calm the hell down. Then, when pressure emerges on him, his response is to post 20 times in a row. The thing about those 20 posts is that they simultaneously:
-act suicidal over the game
-act in self-preservation by questioning regfan
-essentially yell/complain at everyone in the game for misreading him.

As much as i look at all of that, I still can't bring myself to go LOLBB IS SCUM WHY ARE ALL OF YOU VOTING OTHER PEOPLE because he has, in a few ways, been playing distinctly to his town meta. Yes, he's probably self-aware. Still, etc.

Frankly, i'm glad that i have some pressure. It

is

a good motivator.

I think i'm willing to vote darox or BB. Not really willing to vote anyone else. When i re-read darox, I can't see as much towniness as i did on day one. And the fact that he's been on all four missions without what I see as really any significant towntells is also disconcerting. Kuribo's probably going to go "lol, shoephone" but i really don't see how the shoephone clears darox, because it's very possible that the situation is something like the scum being told "every two successful missions, one fewer person has to be on the mission." If that were the case, i can very distinctly see scum on the missions not sabotaging the first 3, and then sabotaging everything they can after that to prevent the town from getting early info but prevent them from getting extra mislynches later on. If that's the case, scum would sabotage anyway, regardless of shoephone/etc.

Frankly, considering that random people seem to have been getting items, and that I've got items when i haven't been on any missions, I'd suspect that this may very well be the only advantage we gain from successful missions. The altered scum win condition of "you win when there are less than X townies" in a nightless game essentially takes one simple thing away from a normal nightless game: in a normal nightless game, when the town lynches correctly, they gain an extra mislynch. The mechanic takes that away. Missions are probably a way for scum to balance giving the town extra info, or giving the town extra mislynches.

[MattP]

Cool vote Darox with me

VOTE: Darox

[implosion]

~sigh~

VOTE: Darox

Trust: vijay

He should really be on the mission. Since he's town. Like i said, he and llamarble are the only townreads i'm strongly confident in so.

[kuribo]

dat counterwagon

[kuribo]

hey implosion, for a guy who claims i'm not the only one with his head up his ass, you sure are voting my town read


ohhh it's because I'm voting you, right?

[kuribo]

hey implosion, for a guy who claims i'm not the only one with his head up his ass, you sure are voting my town read


ohhh it's because I'm voting you, right?

er, who claims i *am* the only one with his head not up his ass rather

[Darox]

So how do you console "Scum are told the exact mechanics of how mission success/fails work" with my shock over the mission shrinking D3?

[kuribo]

whoa hold the fuck up
you're ready to vote Molla

but you're no where to be found when we were stringing molla?

you're ready to vote molla, but you park on Darox, even though Molla's an easier lynch?


I've got you now, you scum fuck.

[kuribo]

and the shoephone clears Darox because DAROX FUCKING KNEW THAT I'D BE TRACKING SOMEONE LAST NIGHT


AND SCUM STILL SABOTAGED ANYWAY


BUT HE HAD NO IDEA WHO I'D BE TRACKING

[implosion]

hey implosion, for a guy who claims i'm not the only one with his head up his ass, you sure are voting my town read

See, the difference is that i'm not screaming LOL YOU'RE WRONG DIE IN A FIRE SCUM at 4 other players in the game.

"I don't have conviction in my reads" does not mean "i will sheep kuribo."

And you do have your head up your ass to an extent; the difference is, you haven't had as bad a voting record and it's

normal

for you to have your head up your ass.

whoa hold the fuck up
you're ready to vote Molla

but you're no where to be found when we were stringing molla?

I was voting molla up until i just changed to darox?
Also, why are you calling my vote a park on darox? I've been voting him for all of two hours and 43 minutes.

and the shoephone clears Darox because DAROX FUCKING KNEW THAT I'D BE TRACKING SOMEONE LAST NIGHT


AND SCUM STILL SABOTAGED ANYWAY


BUT HE HAD NO IDEA WHO I'D BE TRACKING

I very specifically explained why this is meaningless in my wallpost that you apparently didn't read ^_^

[implosion]

So how do you console "Scum are told the exact mechanics of how mission success/fails work" with my shock over the mission shrinking D3?

Gasp, you were shocked that the mission decreased?

Gasp, if scum know something that the town don't, they might act surprised when something happens based on that information?

Are you really implying that if you were scum, and knew that the mission size was going to decrease, you'd act like you KNEW it was going to decrease?

[Darox]

Or I could have just not given a reaction, which is the safe route.

You know, like half the other people playing.

[implosion]

Or I could have just not given a reaction, which is the safe route.

You know, like half the other people playing.

You could.

And the ontological reason why you would do this instead of giving a reaction as scum is _________.

I mean, yeah, sure, you could have gone the safe route.

"I could have done X" is not an answer to the question "why wouldn't you do Y as scum." That's like answering the question "why wouldn't you vote for kuribo as scum" by saying "well, i could also vote for spyrex." Giving an alternative in no way implies that you would have done that alternative as scum.

[implosion]

if you're going to say "because it's the safe route" then lol, i'd like to see you prove that you never take any risks as scum

[kuribo]

I very specifically explained why this is meaningless in my wallpost that you apparently didn't read ^_^

if I wanted to read things that were long and stupid, I'd still read James Patterson

[kuribo]

Yes, he's probably self-aware. Still, etc.

"probably" self-aware?

he flatout stated he's self aware.

[Concision]

Will get to this game later today or by latest tonight.

Kuribo, fairly sure your town read on Darox is wrong and stupid but an Implosion-wagon isn't terrible. Still need to re-go-over BB a lot because he dodged answering a few questions but I think I remember him reacting similarly as town in a westeroes game where he was David(?). Will see if the game is find-able.

[vijay2vasandani]

Who did Concision replace again?

[BBmolla]

Concision is Regfan/CES.

[vijay2vasandani]

Oh he can die later as well.