Mini 1370: Possessed Pastors in a Paranoid Parish: Who Won?!

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Eid

- given you are not voting him I take it you still read Rapid as Town, correct?

[Eidolon]

correct. i think a lynch on him is the wrong way to go. he's playing exactly how he does as town.

[Eidolon]

i'll have more time to give an explanation on why later.

[DarthYoshi]

The Book of Vote Counts, Chapter One, Verse Five

rapidcanyon (6): MagnaofIllusion, Amrun, Tierce, seilkops, AngryPidgeon, IceGuy
Eidolon (2): DeasWave, Hiraki
Zyrconium (1): Eidolon
Quilford (1): Empking
Amrun (1): Zyrconium
Empking (1): Quilford
Not Voting (1): rapidcanyon

With 13 alive, it's 7 to excommunicate and 7 to have no excommunication.

The deadline is currently set for 7:00 am Pacific Daylight Time (GMT-7) on Wednesday, September 5.

As ever, if you have any questions or concerns, please let me know!

[rapidcanyon]

Character Claim : Father Donovan

Role Claim: Protect a player each night. If that player is targeted for a kill, I die in their place.

[AngryPidgeon]

So a bodyguard claim. What is Donovan from? Need to reread later, sorry. Had a date last night :3

[rapidcanyon]

He is a jaded and cynical Episcopalian priest from the TV series American Dad!

Also, DY doesn't call it "bodyguard" but that is what it is. The ability I have is called "redemptive death."

[MagnaofIllusion]

Just to confirm Rapid ... you don't seem to be indicating that possession of an item is the source of your ability. Is this correct?

[rapidcanyon]

Full role (paraphrased in my own words):

I am the jaded, cynical priest. I have the following abilities:

Redemptive death: Despite my jadedness, I can still summon the motivation to protect a player from any attempts on their life each night but I will be killed instead.

Because, I am possesed, this ability is vulnerable to exorcism.

Deliberate: I can post in the day thread.

Vote: (self explanatory)

I win when all threats to the Church are eliminated and at least one Church-aligned player is alive.

@Magna, it says nothing about the possesion of an ITEM. It says "despite [my] jadedness" and "because

an possessed" so it refers to qualities that I have and the abilities that I have because of or despite those qualities.

[AngryPidgeon]

UNVOTE: RC
VOTE: Eidolon

I'll catch up by end of today.

[Amrun]

Unvote; Vote: Eidolon

[Eidolon]

sigh.

[Hiraki]

good job boys

[AngryPidgeon]

[seilkops]

UNVOTE: RC
Bai bai RC wagon.

Sorry MoI for not including you in my reads, but I've been trying to look at Emp and Quil like I said I would, and still need to finish those up.
If you really wanna know what I think about you
Moi: Null


The interactions between Eidolon and RC are just odd. I still feel like the reads they put on each other are forced, attacking or defending one another.
The votes on Eid are just going to produce another claim, and I don't think we want that. Let's slow down before putting Eidolon on L1.
Why is everyone just straight transferring their votes to Eidolon?

Unvote; Vote: Eidolon

You said you thought a possible scum team was RC/Eidolon. RC claims bodyguard, so you just move your vote to next possible target? That does not seem like a recipe for success.

AngryPidgeon's reads seem convenient, both the early Zyrc scum read and the sellkops (wagon was dying down) and Tierce (safe town read) town reads. Same goes for sellkops' reads, except for the "solid town" read on AngryPidgeon.

Do you agree or disagree with my solid town read on AP? Otherwise, I don't understand what you're saying. Of course I read Tierce as town, because she's been acting town. Would you have liked it more if I put her down as scum? "Safe town read" makes literally no reason. Especially considering you have not said a single thing about Tierce.
So Ice. I'd like to know. How do you feel about Tierce? Don't forget, you can't put her down as town. Much too safe!
All I'm hearing from you is that you forgot about this game, and then some useless/scummy pointing out on reads.
Why are you trying to throw suspicion on my reads, and for crappy reasons?

rapidcanyon is my top suspect for reasons outlined in others' posts.

Yeah, ok. Way to show initiative.

IceGuy is

my

top suspect for reasons outlined in my own post, complete with my own thoughts and reasoning.

VOTE: IceGuy
I wanna see more posting from you. Anyone else down to vote him?

So a bodyguard claim. What is Donovan from? Need to reread later, sorry. Had a date last night :3

Someone's in loveee

[Tierce]

Sleep first, catch-up later.

[IceGuy]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: AngryPidgeon

Do you agree or disagree with my solid town read on AP? Otherwise, I don't understand what you're saying.

Obviously disagree.

Of course I read Tierce as town, because she's been acting town. Would you have liked it more if I put her down as scum? "Safe town read" makes literally no reason. Especially considering you have not said a single thing about Tierce.

A "safe town read" is a player like Tierce or Amrun who generally appears town, at least early in the game. This means a scum player can easily read them town and buddy them without getting too much heat for an unfounded town read. This is especially obvious when the read happens early in the game, after just a few posts.

That does not mean every town read on one of them is a convenient town read, but when several convenient reads (town reads on safe town players, town reads on dying wagons, scum reads on easy lynches, scum reads on players with a wagon on them) are bundled it makes for a good scumtell.

So Ice. I'd like to know. How do you feel about Tierce? Don't forget, you can't put her down as town. Much too safe!

See above - I can put her down as town and so can you. Nice misrep.

(I have her as null, by the way, otherwise I would've mentioned her).

All I'm hearing from you is that you forgot about this game, and then some useless/scummy pointing out on reads.
Why are you trying to throw suspicion on my reads, and for crappy reasons?

Explain how my reasons are crappy.

rapidcanyon is my top suspect for reasons outlined in others' posts.

Yeah, ok. Way to show initiative.

IceGuy is

my

top suspect for reasons outlined in my own post, complete with my own thoughts and reasoning.

VOTE: IceGuy
I wanna see more posting from you. Anyone else down to vote him?

And another low-effort read.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Well I can’t say I’m thrilled with Rapid’s claim. His flavor doesn’t match very well with what I and Wikipedia know of the character. That said flavor outguessing isn’t a reason to disregard a claim without other evidence and if we had someone else with a Town protective role I would have expected a push-back by this point (although not sure everyone has posted).

UNVOTE: Rapid

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That does not mean every town read on one of them is a convenient town read, but when several convenient reads (town reads on safe town players, town reads on dying wagons, scum reads on easy lynches, scum reads on players with a wagon on them) are bundled it makes for a good scumtell.

So are you saying that Seil’s other reads support this scumtell? If so who falls in your other “categories” showing Seil’s reads were manufactured. If not why are you pointing out his Tierce read as ‘safe’?

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I’m going to go with a

VOTE: Quilford

[IceGuy]

So are you saying that Seil’s other reads support this scumtell? If so who falls in your other “categories” showing Seil’s reads were manufactured. If not why are you pointing out his Tierce read as ‘safe’?

As said above, yes. The only read that doesn't fit is his AP townread. Other than that, there's an Eidolon and a rapidcanyon scumread (both players who were under heavy fire) and a weak Hiraki and Amrun townread (both players that are safe, though Amrun is moreso than Hiraki).

[Hiraki]

Quilford and IceGuy are nice alternatives

but let's go for the main goal

[MagnaofIllusion]

So DeasWave you are a hydra. With less than half the posts of the Mod.

Why should that NOT concern me?

[Hiraki]

because ignoring DeasVail is better than complaining about the lack of posts

seriously he pulls this shit in just about every game

and then when you point it out(as you did) he gets annoyingly active

I'm not sure if that's alignment controlled though. i'll have to check.

[MagnaofIllusion]

because ignoring DeasVail is better than complaining about the lack of posts

seriously he pulls this shit in just about every game

Been in two games with Deas. He was very active and Town in both. And the one game I was in with NexusWave he was very active also. So it has got my attention.

Sum up your Eid-is-scum reasoning for me Hiraki.

[Hiraki]

eid is over-reacting

about to pull the victim card

this is also the worst statement in the game by far:

I see scum motivation in that especially since i'm leaning town on angrypidgeon.

[AngryPidgeon]

The votes on Eid are just going to produce another claim, and I don't think we want that.

This rubs me the wrong way. Weird as it is, I find people stating that claims are bad to be a scumtell. IIoA I guess.

Seil, RC's claim looks legit. Hence why people are transferring to their next scum read.

Do you agree or disagree with my solid town read on AP? Otherwise, I don't understand what you're saying. Of course I read Tierce as town, because she's been acting town. Would you have liked it more if I put her down as scum? "Safe town read" makes literally no reason. Especially considering you have not said a single thing about Tierce.
So Ice. I'd like to know. How do you feel about Tierce? Don't forget, you can't put her down as town. Much too safe!
All I'm hearing from you is that you forgot about this game, and then some useless/scummy pointing out on reads.
Why are you trying to throw suspicion on my reads, and for crappy reasons?

Ok. Why is my gut telling me this is bussing? Its distancing and its very light accusations. It seems forced.
UNVOTE: Eid
VOTE: IceGuy

Dislike IceGuy's post. Feels more like IIoA. ICeguy, do you think Seil is scum? What about Amrun and MoI?

Dislike Quilford votes right now. Pretty null on him. IceGuy I can get behind.

Not 100% sure how I feel about Eidolon after she called Hiraki's post a 'gambit'. It clearly shows that she is derping heavily. Derping as scum or town, I'm not 100%.