Mini 1373 - Oh My! (Game Over)


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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:34 pm

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Ok, I was typing up what I thought was going to be a massive wallpost but then I realized I've gotten progressively lazier as this game has gone on. Instead I'm going to just write a catch-all post.

I think Denis, Hibiki, and Sach are all very unlikely to be partnered up with deadjoker. W/r/t the first two, I think they do much to push a case on deadjoker well before his lynch seemed like an inevitability or even a very strong consideration. I also have a hard time seeing the way deadjoker addresses them both (in posts 317, 393, and 395) as him talking to his partner(s). Sach also seems to push deadjoker as a top priority lynch but I guess not as uhhh...vigorously (?) as the other two. But that seems to be more her playstyle/personality than anything.

Syn/Coron seemed to be one place deadjoker was willing to throw down a vote, and though the logic behind his fos seemed thin, the way he hopped onto this wagon while it seemed juicy made me think this wasn't a distancing attempt for some reason. Seemed to me like he was trying to waste the ML here rather than bus/distance his partner. Looking at their posts individually, though, doesn't inspire me with confidence one way or the other. Something about the conclusions Coron arrives at rubs me the wrong way but his reasoning strikes me as possibly coming from a genuine town thought process (yes, I'm fence sitting on you, dwi).

The way deadjoker addressed petapan during twilight also doesn't strike me as scum addressing his partner...but he was confirmed scum, so I'd pretty much take anything he said here with a huge grain of salt.

I'm exhausted/tired so sorry if any of this came out in a contrived way or if I missed anything. Questions/comments are welcome.

If anyone cares, I'll write up a case on redtail tomorrow.

PEdit: denis, I don't think you can delete accounts here, dude.
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:38 pm

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@Satire: your read on Tuxedo plz
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:45 pm

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In post 676, RobertMontana wrote:@Satire: your read on Tuxedo plz

Possibly scum, given that I think you're real and he should be last scum if there's no other protective role + redtail is also fake (he is). But aside from mechanics speculation and PoE (I have many strong townreads elsewhere), I honestly don't know. I had him written off as a weaker townread initially as a result of a tonal read but after looking over deadjoker's interactions with everyone, I think he's a possible scum partner candidate.

The reason I mentioned all that business about denis, Hibiki, Sach, and Syn/Coron is because of the list I made during twilight. That would bump up Hibiki and Sach into the town section. Meaning, if horrordude isn't scum (and it's very possible), one or more of my townreads is wrong.
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:52 pm

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i'll do an iso of tuxedomask when i feel like it as i've said before
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:54 pm

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he's getting lynched anyway so don't bother. it won't gain you any town cred.
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:59 pm

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VOTE: TuxedoMask based both on RobertMontana's roleblock and Tuxedo's voting history. Once you look at the votecounts, you realize that despite all his bluster and scumreads, he only voted twice: once early on Syn (which resulted in a very quick unvote), and a godawful vote on RobertMontana.

Satire: if you believe I'm scum, then you believe Robert is town, and should be voting for Tuxedo.
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:03 pm

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unvote
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:04 pm

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In post 681, crypto wrote:
unvote

Why?
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:05 pm

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satire why aren't you voting tux
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:07 pm

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Because, like I said up there, I'm not sure on him at all.

Also, redtail egging it on is really making me nervous.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:09 pm

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everyone's unsure about everyone but the lynch isn't changing unless you make something happen
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:11 pm

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crypto is redtail scum
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:12 pm

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In post 685, crypto wrote:everyone's unsure about everyone but the lynch isn't changing unless you make something happen

I know, but redtail's move has me worried because if he's scum with Tuxedo, then he's basically bussing into autoloss by putting him at L-1 and basically asking me to hammer.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:13 pm

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basically
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:13 pm

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so are you just going to sit here and diddle your dick indefinitely satire
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:14 pm

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i'll let you diddle my dick if you get bored of your own
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:16 pm

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In post 689, crypto wrote:so are you just going to sit here and diddle your dick indefinitely satire

Basically yes. Besides, I also want to hear from horrordude, projectmatt, etc. before the day is over. I don't see a reason to speedlynch today.
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:16 pm

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ugh i was really hoping you'd just vote him so i could quick-hammer

vote: tuxedomask
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:17 pm

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we probably shouldn't be quicklynching
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:18 pm

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In post 691, satire wrote:
In post 689, crypto wrote:so are you just going to sit here and diddle your dick indefinitely satire

Basically yes. Besides, I also want to hear from horrordude, projectmatt, etc. before the day is over. I don't see a reason to speedlynch today.

QFT
BTW Hibiki is quickly becoming my favorite person in this game
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:23 pm

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mmm

if tuxedo flips scum, what if we put redtail on robert?
if redtail is scum then robert cant die, if redtail kills a blue robert is clear and if redtail is town robert is kept alive + cleared since scum will inevitably kill. if robert is scum then busted. if redtail dies then that's good because it means we don't waste a mislynch on him, leaving robert clear and another roleblock to go.

that's what i have so far. i essentially don't want robert to die in redtail's place
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:23 pm

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UNVOTE:
I wasn't really trying to egg you on satire; I was trying to understand your thought process. No kill happened last night, so either you believe one of the lurkers is a PR that stopped the kill or you believe Robert roleblocked scum.

BTW: I still fully support and intend to vote for a tuxedo lynch, but I agree that we should hear from the last couple of people.
You can just call me Redtail. If I could, I'd change my name to that anyway.
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:23 pm

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er, fuck, i mean if redtail kills a VT
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:25 pm

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actually if we get a scum lynch we need both roleblockers on VTs for mass clearance on the assumption that one dies.
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:28 pm

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can yall name names you want blocked/cleared tonight so we can do a consensus or something

i think a block on denis would be a huge waste, a block on satire would ease me but it's iffy.

clearing lurkers would also make poe very very easy maybe?

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