NY 154: Return to Boring Town - Game Over

[Salamence20]

MoI in lylo brings in all sorts of WIFOM.

[McStab]

And you in LyLo brings about someone who self-votes by playing against your wincon. You just threatened to and you have a history of doing so.

Sala is a liability to the town, he's pushed every town wagon, and he's got no coherent sense of the game. Even if he somehow flips town he's too dangerous to leave till LyLo.

If everyone in this game would focus on facts instead of their own delusional views (ROFL's inte/me scumteam theory, with no evidence; Sala's logic that even though ROFL is conf scum MoI needs to die; havingfitz's adamant attacks on MoI that amount to a manipulated VCA and a question of "why didn't MoI die at night", both of which are weak; MoI's focus on ROFL despite Sala clearly being the better lynch) we might be able to win this game. Just lynch the Salamander, he's at best a threat to the town out of incompetence/self-voting in LyLo and at worst he's scum who's managed to push every town wagon with no repercussions.

[inte]

adfsdafdasfdfsafs i don't want to trust you but you're the only person trying to make sense

MoI is tunneling
Rofl is trying to derail any thought.

Rofl

, why am I and mcstab scum? more importantly, why do you think I am scum? i have forgotten
havingfitz idk i didn't actually read his posts because the clear lynch today is either rofl/sala. we can look at MoI later

[Salamence20]

And you in LyLo brings about someone who self-votes by playing against your wincon. You just threatened to and you have a history of doing so.

Sala is a liability to the town, he's pushed every town wagon, and he's got no coherent sense of the game. Even if he somehow flips town he's too dangerous to leave till LyLo.

If everyone in this game would focus on facts instead of their own delusional views (ROFL's inte/me scumteam theory, with no evidence; Sala's logic that even though ROFL is conf scum MoI needs to die; havingfitz's adamant attacks on MoI that amount to a manipulated VCA and a question of "why didn't MoI die at night", both of which are weak; MoI's focus on ROFL despite Sala clearly being the better lynch) we might be able to win this game. Just lynch the Salamander, he's at best a threat to the town out of incompetence/self-voting in LyLo and at worst he's scum who's managed to push every town wagon with no repercussions.

All hail the town leader

[havingfitz]

Could you provide or link to your slam dunk case on inte?

i don't have a compiled case on rofl, but meta experience says hes being very scummy now

The question was for ROFL.

[inte]

Could you provide or link to your slam dunk case on inte?

i don't have a compiled case on rofl, but meta experience says hes being very scummy now

The question was for ROFL.

only natural i answer it too

[Salamence20]

September 11, 2012. The citizens of Boring Town has seemed to hit a standstill between the confirms and everyone else. The leader of the confirms, Havingfitz, wishes to lead a lynch on MoI, who may have the power to live forever. Toonfighter has been playing the role of a sheep, like a typical American. Velazanth has just seemed to dissappear, and it doesn't matter anyways because he is just as much of a lazy American as Toon was.

Meanwhile, the others have been at odds.

MoI has been on the prowl, especially after Inte, who he believes is opportunistic scum who tried to mislynch him.

Inte and Salamence have become unlikely allies who work together to get ROFL lynched. Sala believes that there is scum between him and ROFL, and since Sala knows he is town, ROFL is scum. Inte is using the power of meta to bring him down.

McStab, having reappeared out of nowhere, seems to be on a personal vendetta on lynching Sala, and can you blame him? He has experienced so much from Sala that he really can't stand him anymore, lynching him would be a great accomplishment, regardless of sala's alignment.

And then we have ROFL, who really has been as bloodthirsty as Sala, but no one understands his motives. Is he a mastermind scum subject or a townie?

All of these questions and more will be answered next time... In NEW YORK: RETURN TO BORRING TOWN.

[inte]

u wot m8

Why do people bother playing? We are throwing this easy pz game away because nobody wants to voice any opinions (that isn't MoI, sala, inte)

[Salamence20]

u wot m8

Why do people bother playing? We are throwing this easy pz game away because nobody wants to voice any opinions (that isn't MoI, sala, inte)

That leaves McStab (who is suffering from salavision) and Fitz.

[roflcopter]

i've given my opinion a dozen times by now. i can't lynch you by myself. i'm waiting for other people to see the light and vote you or present a compelling reason for me to vote someone else.

[havingfitz]

Rofl...yeah...you've said it's inte and mcstab a dozen times but you haven't really said why. How about you bring up the compelling case you expect of others? Can you actually make a post that highlights why it is so obvious inte and mcstab are scum? What happened to my " good case on magna?"

How's this for a good point....if moi's wagon consists of three ~confirmed town + Sal, even if Sal was scum (which you yourself do not believe) they would still have another player who could have dropped the hammer by now. The fact a hammer hasn't been dropped just adds to the potential that moi is scum.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I’m not sold on there being scum on this lynch.

Empking

had claimed so IMO scum would be even keener to stay off the mislynch.

How's this for a good point....if moi's wagon consists of three ~confirmed town + Sal, even if Sal was scum (which you yourself do not believe) they would still have another player who could have dropped the hammer by now. The fact a hammer hasn't been dropped just adds to the potential that moi is scum.

So pick a theory of game-play and go with it fitz. You can't argue that my "not being hammered" indicates I am scum honestly given your stance on the Empking lynch..

Now I'm going to have to dig into your posts. Before my Town read on Viscera due to claim and play made be willing to let your posting go but this is so self-contradictory I'm rethinking that read.

[MagnaofIllusion]

UNVOTE: inte

while I re-read fitz and re-assess ...

[Salamence20]

MoI is being werid.

[havingfitz]

Is this all part of your plan to pull up your big boy pants and show us who is scum?

[havingfitz]

And how are my thoughts wrt Empking contradictory? I think scum would typically try to avoid any mislynch if they could...but especially that of a claimed PR. If you are comparing BP townie to jailkeeper...yeah...not the same IMO. Plus it's a PR that is impossible to confirm unless someone with a gun wants to out themself saying they took a shot at you or if there were an unexplained absence of NKs (which this game does not have). Very convenient role to fakeclaim and if true....all the more reason for scum

TO

be on your wagon since that would be the only way of getting rid of you if you were really BP.

[Nocmen]

RedCoyote replaces Velazanth, effective immediately.

[Nocmen]

Vote Count

Salamence20 - 2( McStab, inte)
MagnaOfIllusion -3 (RedCoyote, havingfitz, ToonFighter,)
inte - 1( roflcopter)
McStab - 1 ( Salamence20)

Not Voting - 1 (MagnaOfIllusion )

8 Alive, takes 5 to Lynch

[RedCoyote]

Unvote

Mod

, is there a deadline?

I will likely be reading over the game and making a post later today.

[Nocmen]

Mod

, is there a deadline?

I was waiting for replacements before setting a deadline. Right now It's at 9pm EDT, on September 19th, one week from now. That will have been 3 weeks since the day has started.

[Toon Fighter]

HMMM... MoI was at L-1. If he IS BP, then scum would have every incentive to lynch him. From the wagon, me, RC, and havingfitz are pretty much confirmed town. SO:

1) Either Sala is the remaining scum (his partner would have hammered MoI)
2) MoI is lying and is scum

On that basis, I propose that MoI is one of the remaining scum. If he flips innocent, we lynch sala.

[Salamence20]

I can live with the above.

However, inte was also on that wagon.

[Toon Fighter]

so...
1) inte + sala
2) MoI + ???

[Toon Fighter]

I can live with the above.

However, inte was also on that wagon.

and yet you vote McStab

[Salamence20]

VOTE: MoI

This game, my vote, this conftown group, lylo.