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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:59 am

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In post 324, Bitmap wrote:Why am I town-read for you this game?


Lack of you being a strong scum read. I wasnt kidding postgame that when I saw I was scum and you WERENT I was stunned, figured there was no possible way you were town in that game given the first few pages and I was kinda right about it - even though I did just chalk it up to scummy town.

Plus the VT claim, the way it happened is a mild VT tell. Last game you were immediately hinting at non-VT to the point that I dont think you would accidently claim VT as scum outside of it being intentional, and the claim didnt seem intentional here. Most ponies are creatures of habit.

@AJ - I was making a case on solid and I think he townslipped in 176 actually. Not the strongest one ever, but it actually might be a legit one depending on what the setup actually looks like. He makes a really unusal conclusion for scum to be making at one point.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:48 pm

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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:09 pm

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@RBD: But I never said I was VT or not... why are you so certain?
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:07 pm

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In post 325, Rainbowdash wrote:@AJ - I was making a case on solid and I think he townslipped in 176 actually. Not the strongest one ever, but it actually might be a legit one depending on what the setup actually looks like. He makes a really unusal conclusion for scum to be making at one point.

I think I see this, actually. It'd be a fairly solid town tell, and the chances are pretty good. If it turns out that this isn't the case, though, then we will need to kill him with fire and brimstone.

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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:11 pm

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In post 326, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:
Mod (Yabba) Please replace me. I can't seem to get into this for the life of me =/ Sorry


I guess a speedlynch wouldn't have been that bad then.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:16 am

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Greetings! I am back! Apologies for the extended V/LA. I was very busy over the last several days due to unforeseen circumstances.

I will be making a post here later today. :)
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:29 am

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Ok, perhaps I am wrong about solid.

UNVOTE: most likely scum
VOTE: Defender
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:37 am

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In post 249, Rainbowdash wrote:Yes. Im willing to say both of them are probably not scum, but that doesnt mean one isnt scummy town and I need to figure out which one that is.

When defender gives his reasoning I will follow up with mine and probably vote for one of them.


You are waiting for something that is very unlikely to occur. Please supply the reasoning that you have for thinking solid is scum. In addition, you talk about theory and how information from town members about their role will help us trap scum through mass claim. However, you suspect both to be not scum and want to lynch them? In total, that is poor judgment.

AppleJack, Buck! Get to work. I hardly consider your "slog" to be up to par.

inte, whilst I agree that is a rather weak point against D3f3nd3r. I forgot your opinion of him. You want him to be killed, but not lynched, correct?

@people saying Solid is scum. I am willing to concede that this post is bad.

I find Solid's honesty about D3f3nd3r's wagon and attacking a lurker to be honest and motivated by town ambitions. However, the rhetoric employed, specifically the "vague" comments and the questions at the end slightly undermine my confidence in calling him town. He is being antagonistic against D3f3nd3r, who we all know will not react or give the information he seeks. inte's comment that I mentioned above is bad for this reason as well.


In post 269, Rainbowdash wrote:
In post 268, inte wrote:at this point in time, would you shoot d3f3nd3r if he was not lynched?


Nope. Never shoot outside of exceedingly rare situations (confirmed scum, forced win, confirmed game goes to and stays at odd numbers)

Vigs will lose town the game far far more then win it.


I fail to see the difference given that you are currently voting D3f3nd3r.

inte, how am I being scummy?

You have given 0 reasons for suspecting me. You have only called other players to vote for me. Why?

Rainbow, please get off your high ... wait. Posts that sound as insincere as this one are why I distrust you Rainbow.

Your arrogance and ego are distracting you.

However, thank you for finally posting the theory.

Rainbow, you think these actions are town?

Posts like this and this strengthen my read in solid being town.

McStab's post here also has town motivation in my opinion. The tone, the call to pressure Rainbow, it all looks organic.


In post 306, Nachomamma8 wrote:Bitmap is already a pretty decent townread for me. Treating rbd with that healthy dose of paranoia early game makes me feel pretty good about him


And why not add this analysis in for McStab?

Judging from your post, you view McStab as town?

Applejack, please poke at theory. I also believe I addressed yourconcerns answering inte.

I would also like your reasoning behind solidstate scum.

Nacho, have you even read the game?

Are you voting for me based on my actions or my predecessor's actions?

This needs to stop.

VOTE: Rainbow

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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:37 am

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In post 331, DoomYoshi wrote:Ok, perhaps I am wrong about solid.

UNVOTE: most likely scum
VOTE: Defender


Why that wording?
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:58 am

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No, it does not, and I'm not about to reveal anything to you.

Unvote, Vote: Cartographer
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:09 am

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The scan process that has been happening in the background amidst all these events has been gradually inching its progress bar closer and closer to 100%. Amidst the fury to try to get these intruders out, could we finally have a breakthrough?


Vote Count:

13 alive, 7 to lynch

D3f3nd3r (3) - solidstate, Rainbowdash, DoomYoshi,
Rainbowdash (3) - McStab, Bitmap, Cartographer,
Cartographer (3) - inte, Nachomamma8, Applejack,
solidstate (2) - D3f3nd3r, Elmo TeH AzN,
Applejack (1) - seilkops,

Not Voting: Demon Core,

Deadline: Sep. 25

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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:44 am

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I want to vote inte so badly right now.
Cartographer is being too town right here, so I suppose I can't vote him now.
Whatever, this can be a placeholder for later.

Vote: inte
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:44 am

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equinox, what was wrong with his post? I sorta liked it a lot.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:58 am

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In post 334, Applejack wrote:

No, it does not, and I'm not about to reveal anything to you.

Unvote, Vote: Cartographer


Quick post on break.

There is a reason I left "this" to be vague. What exactly is the "it" you are thinking, Apple?
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:04 am

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In post 337, Nachomamma8 wrote:equinox, what was wrong with his post? I sorta liked it a lot.

In post 338, Cartographer wrote:
In post 334, Applejack wrote:

No, it does not, and I'm not about to reveal anything to you.

There is a reason I left "this" to be vague. What exactly is the "it" you are thinking, Apple?

My kneejerk reaction was that Cartographer didn't like that I was continuing Rainbowdash's trend of being vague and attacked that instead of figuring out why I had to be vague, but it seems I was wrong.

To clarify: Was what you took issue with the way I agreed with Rainbowdash, the way I arrived at the conclusion that solidstate's town, or something else?
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:05 am

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In post 336, Nachomamma8 wrote:I want to vote inte so badly right now.

Why?
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:24 pm

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V/LA extends to tomorrow.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:52 pm

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@Cart - Yes. That is a townie post from Bit. I get a lot of paranoia because outside of somewhat broken games I have not really lost as scum (one was a game where scum made up half the game but because the SK was unendgameable we lost when town missed a forced draw and gave SK the win, one was because setup was broken in favor of town at over 80% rate). Its a mild town tell to be nervous of me because im me but still listen.

@MS, Bit, Cart - Can you actually say why you are voting me? MS seems to be because I am saying same theory (which is 100% correct) that I have as scum in the past, Bit agrees, and Cart because... I made a post that is not genuine half complaining about how I get sheeped and saying thats at times why I dont like immediately putting out a case?

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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:10 pm

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Sorry, twc is out in my area so I'm on my phone only, I will read todays stuff and try to reply but I can't really blab on until it gets fixed.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:37 pm

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In post 339, Applejack wrote:To clarify: Was what you took issue with the way I agreed with Rainbowdash, the way I arrived at the conclusion that solidstate's town, or something else?

Don't answer this; I figured it out.

VOTE SITTING TIME

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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:17 pm

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Still getting my ass kicked by whatever bug I picked up.

I'm not going to be able to devote enough time to this soon enough.
Mod, please replace me.


Sorry everybody, I hate that I have to leave like this. :cry:
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:09 pm

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AppleJack, I have no answer. Simply confusion.

Rainbow, it is an accumulation of many oddities I dislike about your play. I will explain tomorrow hopefully.

Your arrogant post was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Demon, feel better. I hope we will get to play again.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:22 pm

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In post 346, Cartographer wrote:Your arrogant post was the straw that broke the camel's back.


Its true though, and is starting to effect the way I play. It lets me pressure those who sheep me to get a better read on them instead of just letting them do my bidding. It sounds like you dont like the way I play instead of actually thinking im scum though.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:28 pm

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That is possibly true. I have not examined my own opinions to see whether or not it is true.

I will probably do that this weekend when I have more time to just think about everything.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:10 am

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I don't understand that a game with like 5 posts a day has people asking for replacement...? I am going to suggest that those are more likely to be scum slots that are replacing out... does this make sense, or am I being outrageous here?

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