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[Kimor]

I am never going to convince anybody to join this wagon, but I'm too proud to drop it!

[TwoUpstandingGentlemen]

By all means, continue completely disregarding that you've claimed scum. It'll make lynching you much easier once everyone else pulls their heads out of their asses.

-Majiffy

[Majiffy]

Ovyo and Empking need to speak more.

[TwoUpstandingGentlemen]

Forgot to switch accounts. Sorry about that.

Empking and Ovyo need to speak more.

-Majiffy

[Empking]

Beautiful weather we're having, isn't it?

This is probably the scummiest post in the game. It's provocative.

[TwoUpstandingGentlemen]

Is there a reason you're not voting to follow up that assessment?

-Majiffy

[Kimor]

Beautiful weather we're having, isn't it?

This is probably the scummiest post in the game. It's provocative.

What else do you expect me to do when he asks me to repeat myself 20+ times?

[TwoUpstandingGentlemen]

You could give up and self-vote so we can start looking for your buddy. Just a thought.

-Majiffy

[Empking]

Beautiful weather we're having, isn't it?

This is probably the scummiest post in the game. It's provocative.

What else do you expect me to do when he asks me to repeat myself 20+ times?

Ignore him.

TUG: I think I have it over from my RVS.

[Robocopter87]

Oh my gosh TUG, give it a rest

You are making this game less enjoyable.

I don't often get to play in games with Neto, Thor and Majiffy. Thats one heck of a game

This whole, "Blatant lie" "ConfScum" "claimed scum" is just preposterous

You took something meaningless. And you made it into the foundation of your entire argument.

Neto hasn't played here for a long time, Neto used to do his RQS every single frikkin game. Then a page or two or whenever he would later, he would post an assessment of the reactions to the RVS. YES, it is to catch scum. NO, it does not catch scum every time.

Get this, a post made in the beginning of a game to start conversation.

Yet you continue to ramble on about he is confscum.

To me, this has nothing to do with Kimor's alignment. It has everything to do with yours.

So do me a favor and stop with this BS of a case.

[TwoUpstandingGentlemen]

Are you serious, Robo? He made a claim that was proven false. This claim is stemming from knowledge that is required to have made the claim. He later agreed he did not have such knowledge. How else would you classify making such a claim, in such a situation, other than a blatant lie?

You're either failing hard as a townie, or failing even harder as a scumbuddy. Either way, you're failing hard.

-Majiffy

[TwoUpstandingGentlemen]

@Robo - since (oddly) I'm the reasonable head here, let me just try to point out a few simple points.

1. I have asked you on a couple of occasions to point out where we're factually wrong.
2. You defend him by saying we're just making mountains of molehills.

I take that as acceptance we are factually right, and your *only* issue is that, for some reason, you take this comment as a-ok.

Just tell me - you think it's normal and fine for a town player to use a game from three years ago that he thinks he remembers (even though he has admitted that is preposterous as part of his defense statements) as part of his scumhunting?

Then when people ask him about it, expressing doubts of his memory he reavows that it is correct.

Then when evidence is provided that proves he is wrong...he just says 'well it wasn't a lie' but doesn't even admit to being wrong?

That's normal and town to you?
And if it is - why?

Because that's the part neither Majiffy or I see. We can't fathom a town player who could and would do that - why can you?

[TwoUpstandingGentlemen]

That's not the way it works. You don't say to somebody, "Vote for X!", then they do it unless they can refute your "brilliant" case. That's my biggest concern - you seem to be doing an awful lot of bullying. I'm just not sure that it's scum or your normal playstyle.

I mean, just look at this - up to this point he remembered a gam clearly enough to believe he knows how I respond to RQS...but he claims to have NO AWARENESS OF MY PLAYSTYLE.

None.

Except, y'know, how I react to RQS, that he remembers from a gam three years ago and it is a valid recollection.
This does not add up.

[TwoUpstandingGentlemen]

I'm going to presume that utter silence for 24 hours means that the awkwardness of the attempt speed lynch on my slot and the obviousness of the scum that needs lynching in Kimor has just left the rest of you confused about what to do next.
It's okay, you can ease into it.
Majiffy and I are practicing comedy routines and trying to figure out the scumbuddy in our QT anyway, so we're not particularly bored...just amazed at the awkward opinions and the lack of opinions presented in this thread.

Because, y'know, we're *sure* silence and refusing to discuss things will help town win.
We're gullible like that.

[Empking]

CD: Top two suspects?

[Battousai]

unvote, vote: Robocop

Thor is starting to appear more townie, though incredibly wrong.

[Kimor]

I'm going to presume that utter silence for 24 hours means that the awkwardness of the attempt speed lynch on my slot and the obviousness of the scum that needs lynching in Kimor has just left the rest of you confused about what to do next.
It's okay, you can ease into it.
Majiffy and I are practicing comedy routines and trying to figure out the scumbuddy in our QT anyway, so we're not particularly bored...just amazed at the awkward opinions and the lack of opinions presented in this thread.

Because, y'know, we're *sure* silence and refusing to discuss things will help town win.
We're gullible like that.

Silence is what happens when you browbeat people.

Why Robo, Battousi?

[Robocopter87]

Robo is scum for: Thinking ovya is scummy based on noob tells, posts 54/57/72 are just kissing up to defend himself, then 89 he tries to change the subject.

He has already given his reasons.

[Kimor]

Robo is scum for: Thinking ovya is scummy based on noob tells, posts 54/57/72 are just kissing up to defend himself, then 89 he tries to change the subject.

He has already given his reasons.

Oh, missed that.

[Robocopter87]

Are you serious, Robo? He made a claim that was proven false. This claim is stemming from knowledge that is required to have made the claim. He later agreed he did not have such knowledge. How else would you classify making such a claim, in such a situation, other than a blatant lie?

You're either failing hard as a townie, or failing even harder as a scumbuddy. Either way, you're failing hard.

-Majiffy

IT WAS A CLAIM PROVEN FALSE

BLATANT LYING

it was only some minor assessment about a sentence long

BUT IT IS TECHNICALLY A CLAIM

AND I PROVED IT FALSE

SO HE IS BLATANTLY LYING

MUST MEAN HE IS SCUM

cmon TUG, you can't honestly believe that the crap you are spewing is a legitimate reason to lynch someone.

[TwoUpstandingGentlemen]

Thor

Tug is...incredibly wrong.

In what way?

@Robo - conversely, neither Majiffy or I can figure out what you're spewing and we've basically concluded you're the scumbuddy because the defense makes no sense to us.

I'll try yet again;

1. I will happily agree it was a minor point he lied about.
2. I will add, that he also later said it was pretty ridiculous for him to have this recollection - even though at the time he acted like it was a reasonable recollection.
3. I will also note, that he used the lie while scumhunting...which is kind of the point of why it's so important.

So, he agrees that it is pretty crazy to have good recollections from that long ago, BUT he uses those recollections when scumhunting (also known as - his sole purpose in this game if he isn't scum).

To my mind there is literally only two ways to take that information.

1. He doesn't give one fig about scumhunting and is not just useless town, but useless town that will lie and act like he's being helpful basically ruining town's chances because...I dunno, he decided he hates this game really early and wants to help scum win.
2. He is scum, and lied because he was a touch lazy and wanted to look like he was doing good scumhunting.

What do you see as the third option there, Robo?
If you don't see a third option, what do you see as the appropriate course of action for options 1 and 2 (and how do we figure out the difference)?
Also, Ockhams...

[TwoUpstandingGentlemen]

IT WAS A CLAIM PROVEN FALSE
BLATANT LYING

it was only some minor assessment about a sentence long

BUT IT IS TECHNICALLY A CLAIM
AND I PROVED IT FALSE
SO HE IS BLATANTLY LYING
MUST MEAN HE IS SCUM
cmon TUG, you can't honestly believe that the crap you are spewing is a legitimate reason to lynch someone.

Unless you're going to argue that his blatant lying isn't indicative of him being scum, I'd like to hear what your big problem is, here.

-Majiffy

[Cheery Dog]

[quote="In post 130

I'm chatty when there's stuff I can talk about (and I quite likely would have joined in some of the talk that was going on around here 10 hours ago had I not gone to bed)

You aren't voting.
You aren't asking people questions.
You're barely weighing in on anything.
When are you getting out of bed, exactly?[/quote]
I'll get out of bed when the arguing stops, currently all this complaining at each other is making me want to stay in longer.

[TwoUpstandingGentlemen]

"Be the change you want to see in the mafia game" - Not even remotely close to Mahatmas Gandhi, despite always being credited with the quote.

-Majiffy

[mykonian]

votecount

Kimor (3): Empking, TwoUpstandingGentlemen, ovyo
TwoUpstandingGentlemen (1): Battousai
cheery dog (1): kimor
robocopter (1): Robocopter87

not voting (1): Cheery Dog