I love the 90's Cartoons - Game over all hail The Brain!

[Porochaz]

Im done with being silent(ish), I am very underwhelmed.

Could pretty much vote anyone as this point, will stick with oversoul until I have more time to read.

[sword_of_omens]

Alright…pretty pissed off as I had a nice long drawn out post,
And when I went to submit, I was timed-out and I lost it…grrrr!!!

Anyway a shorter version of what I had:

We, as town, need to come to a definite conclusion in regards to MS. Either we believe him, or we don’t. His role does make a huge difference in this game, and it is causing a major distraction to town. If we don’t take care of this now, we will keep coming back to it over and over again.

IF:
MS = Town
THEN
Scum have definite fake-claims. Otherwise there is no point to MS’s role AT ALL, PERIOD. We lynch from inherent evil characters and questionable alignments as well. And we focus on MS’s uncleared suspects.


IF:
MS = Scum
THEN
Scum most likely do not have fake-claims (as shown by NC and also by Amrun’s claim)
We then go back to tried and true scum hunting and all characters are suspect no matter how good they seem to be.


Options:

1. We lynch MS today.
Positive side: Either way MS flips, town has definitive attack plan to go on. No more questioning whether or not there are fake claims.
Negative Side: If MS flips town, we lose a pretty decent player and role. Although the suspect pool would be smaller thanks to him.

2. We trust in TownMS and lynch from his suspect list today, and he targets another one tonight.
Positive side: If MS is town, then tomorrow we either clear another townie or find another scum. If he gets NK’d, then we will continue on his suspect pool.
Negative Side: If Ms is scum, he either could clear a townie, fake-clear scum, falsify a guilty on a town, or he could bus a scum buddy tomorrow by “catching” him to appear town.


Either way we need to come to a decision. Otherwise we will be all be stuck going back and forth on this crap and the “what ifs” and will end up last-minute, compromise deadline lynching, which is no good. Town needs to be united if we are going to win this, and I’m tired of all the petty back and forth name-calling and whatnot…

So, today I will either be voting for MS, or I will be voting for Cheery Dog (as Taz seems to be the most questionable in MS’s suspect pool. Taz is always angry, tearing things up, and trying to eat Bugs)

So yeah…Hurrah Hurrah Speech is now concluded.

[Oversoul]

Im done with being silent(ish), I am very underwhelmed.

Could pretty much vote anyone as this point, will stick with oversoul until I have more time to read.

:\

You'll need to revote.

On the flipside I have to read this game.

I skimmed your response to my harshly worded response and it is making me not want to vote you.

I'll probably be back in a day or so.

UNVOTE:

I kinda dont want to lynch Cheery. I have the same feeling and opinion I had of PP yesterday.

[Oversoul]

To be honest, I really only voted PP for his deliberate not going to let MS target me thing he said. :\ Meh.

[Fujiko]

Either way we need to come to a decision. Otherwise we will be all be stuck going back and forth on this crap and the “what ifs” and will end up last-minute, compromise deadline lynching, which is no good. Town needs to be united if we are going to win this, and I’m tired of all the petty back and forth name-calling and whatnot…

So, today I will either be voting for MS, or I will be voting for Cheery Dog (as Taz seems to be the most questionable in MS’s suspect pool. Taz is always angry, tearing things up, and trying to eat Bugs)

So yeah…Hurrah Hurrah Speech is now concluded.

I'm partly on board with this plan.

I see no need to lynch Cheery Dog based on being Taz.
I'd rather lynch Peregrine, and would still not be shocked if he flipped as Ren Hoek.

However - I would support an MS vote, and like the point that it would get us past this stage either way.

[Seanald]

What do you think we should do? Ovrsoul?

[Lastsurvivor]

An MSH lynch seems silly. I don't think I'll ever be on board for lynching him.

Sword, I'm confused by your point that scum do have fake claims if MSH is town role cops (I'm also not entirely sure how it's relevant). But all scum would have to do is go through any of the hundreds of cartoons out there and find another character. OR, just use the protagonist of their actual character's show. This isn't a game where fake claims are really a necessity.
MSH, why should we vote Cheery, other than PoE?

[Porochaz]

What do you think we should do? Ovrsoul?

He probably would quite like you to de-attach yourself from him.

[Porochaz]

unvote vote Seanald

[sword_of_omens]

NAMEcop not ROLEcop
well i would think it would make sense that scum would have fakeclaims to help balance it..
if scum didn't have them and picked a char already given, they could be counterclaimed, again defeating the purpose of a name-cop.

[Seanald]

thats a bad vote porochaz and your focusing on me too much your starting to tunnel, open your eyes further to the game. or if your scum then I guess it doesnt matter and continue doing what your doing.

[PinkyandtheBrain]

vote count:

PeregrineV (3) RachMarie, Fujiko, Lastsurvivor
sword of omens (0)
Porochaz (1) Seanald
Lastsurvivor (1) Cheery Dog
Seanald (2) LowMan, Porochaz
Cheery Dog (1) Michel Sableheart


Not voting: Everyone else

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline will be Oct 13th, 8:30am EST

[Porochaz]

You are playing on other peoples coat tails. You aren't doing anything and further more, you don't have any indication of changing. I have "opened my eyes further to this game". I am still not entirely convinced on Oversoul, for a large part of the last few days I was thinking about how a Pere vote would be a good thing and I was also thinking how best to test MSH without actually having to lynch him. Your word choice and - what I have been trying to avoid saying due to the offence that could be taken from it but honestly can't think of a better way to describe it - your incessant need to bum Oversoul in the ass is what swung it.

Seriously, I mean 2530, seriously?!

[Porochaz]

thats a bad vote porochaz and your focusing on me too much your starting to tunnel, open your eyes further to the game. or if your scum then I guess it doesnt matter and continue doing what your doing.

Also just a side question since I noticed the vote count.

You are voting me, so why treat me like town here. I mean lets put it into your words. "If I'm scum I guess it doesn't matter"

I mean it's yet another structural thing. You are structuring your posts to appeal to my town instinct which doesn't make any sense given your vote, you should be telling me Im scummy due to the vote or at least pointing out to others that it's a bad vote.

(which it isn't)

[sword_of_omens]

The VC is interesting....

Hidden vote on me...Apparently i struck a nerve with someone?

[Porochaz]

Deadline is in 5 days. (or 4 and a bit) You need to vote sword.

[PinkyandtheBrain]

The VC is interesting....

Hidden vote on me...Apparently i struck a nerve with someone?

No, not a hidden vote. There was a vote on you in the prior VC; now there isn't.

[sword_of_omens]

Ah...thanks for the clarification, Pinky


@Poro

Alright, i'm going to make a stance then:

Vote: MichelSableheart

logic-wise, i just don't see it...and i'm tired of the guessing games

[Jal]

Given that no one has claimed/flipped a "bad guy" name on par to Mister Freeze, I don't think the roles are all that varied. We may have

a

godfather-type name scum, but I don't see there being more than one.

I think Sword is right on today's play. The decision best comes down to those not investigated vs lynching MSH himself in order to clear his investigations. I'm inclined towards MSH = town, though. Either way, I feel like MSH is going to be forced to reveal his alignment, similar to the masons and there's most likely scum in the noninvestigative pool.

Assuming MSH is town and his investigations have been true, we probably at the very least have 2-3 scum left, lynching from the set of people not already investigated without including the masons (Cherrydog, Sword, Lastsurvivor, me) is our best best. Even if he's scum and he's a role cop instead of a name cop, he most likely would have mainly sold-out a bunch of innocents of people he rolecopped, leaving the best course of action to

still

lynch from those not investigated. I really doubt a Scum-MSH would have cleared all his scum buddies above gaining the greater trust of the town when revealings initials.

Sword is more of a town read to me, and although I am put off my Lastsurvivor's Sailormoon VT claim ( ), I would rather lynch Cherrydog who is more of an unknown to me from the group.

VOTE: Cherrydog

[Seanald]

I havn't been talking about my vote porochaz cuz it's not going to stay there, made at sense at the beginning of the day but shit changes.

also i wont be "detaching" my self from oversoul, hes the only one I trust and in mafia there is really no way to say, hey im fucking town just trust me on this and I will follow you cuz I think your town so alliance voting block ok? without getting suspicion and shit thrown at you, but thats the eccessence of my buddying with oversoul.

anyway. Willing to side with you guys on the MSH thing for now.

UNVOTE: porochaz
VOTE: Cheerydog

[Fujiko]

Is there anything to the Cheery Dog case other than that he's Taz and MS hasn't investigated him yet?

[Seanald]

he hasnt done shit? and hasn't helped at all.

[Seanald]

but other than that no, thats my only problem with it is that its a leap of faith kind of thing I feel.

[Cheery Dog]

We shouldn't be lynching MSH today, maybe tomorrow, but not today. *grunt*

and I also don't care if you lynch me, I only replaced in because I didn't feel that someone should have been modkilled for requesting replacement. I haven't actually gotten into this game much. *aaaahhh*

[Seanald]

muther fucker useing ATE, god damnit