Micro 45 - Artemis Fowl Game Over

[absta101]

Ugh, i've been spaming lately...
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@Chaos - Why are you voting Hawk?

[Robocopter87]

You are voting Prohawk too, so why are YOU voting prohawk?

Also I'm ticked off for no apparent reason.

[ProHawk]

@Absta & Chaos - Care to provide any reasoning behind your votes, or are we starting a RVS again?

[Robocopter87]

Its not RVS. Not even close.

[Malakittens]

Really are you trying to discredit their votes by calling it RVS?
I agree I want reasoning.
I have gone back over Mehdi's posts and it seems like he was certain of {GNR, Mala, Shos} as scum.
He was defending Robo pretty hard from Pro.

With that. I'm waiting on answers before posting a vote.

[ProHawk]

A vote without reason is a random vote, its the definition of a random vote. If they have a reason, then lets hear it.

[Robocopter87]

You didn't say "random vote", you said RVS.

Big big difference.

[Shamrock]

I don't understand why people are voting ProHawk, the flavor thing makes him likely to be town IMO

can we lynch scum instead?

VOTE: absta

[Mehdi2277]

Bah. Well, good luck town.

[Robocopter87]

Down for a absta or Mala lynch.

Would kill CO too, but thats just because

Want to hear more from kmd.

Lets get this done.

[Shamrock]

why Mala?

[Malakittens]

Honestly, I am thinking Robo is town. I don't see a scum-Robo killing Mehdi.

Vote: CO

Just from ISO'ing Mehdi. This is bouncing over from the GNR read by Mehdi.

So leaning on the fact we have a town Robo.

I'm willing to switch my vote to ProHawk for reasons above and my own. I'm still waiting on the two people who are voting Pro to explain why.

[Robocopter87]

why Mala?

General uselessness.

But notice how she just voted CO and said she was willing to vote Pro BUT WAIT A MINUTE. What happened to her absta read?

That kind of lack of continuity in reads is disturbing. And I wouldn't mind having her die.

[Malakittens]

Two Words:

Rereading Nightkill.

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My Absta read is still there, but I didn't think it was necessary to repeat myself. Are my reads inconsistent? Nope.
Sorry, but after Day 2 I'm not useless. Day 1 I'll admit I am.

Glad you are willing to just kill a town member like that. Don't kill someone because they are useless, but kill someone because they are scummy. There's a difference.

Anyways I haven't completely decided if I'm replacing out. I'm starting a new job on Monday so I don't think I'll have as much time to play MS as I did before and I'll admit I'm in too many games.

[Robocopter87]

I miss Medhi.

[Kmd4390]

I want to look over Day 1 a bit.

I'm leaning toward abstascum right now.

Mala's focusing on the NK has my attention (I can see scum saying something to the effect of "let's kill this person to set this stuff up" and mala's posts look like something that would follow that).

Would love to know the reasons for prohawk votes as well by the way. He looks town to me. I don't know what the hell chaos's vote is all about and absta is just being the same absta he's been all game with that vote.

Love how mala defends her reads as "consistent" rather than "confident" or "right" or whatever. Point is, it looks more like making sure the reads look ok than determining the accuracy of the reads.

Mala/absta team maybe?

[Malakittens]

Actually if you check past games I lean highly lean on catching scum off the NK's. it's a town tell for me, sorry to break it to you KMD.

[Kmd4390]

Links to last two town games and last two scum games. Don't include games you didn't live to Day 2.

[Robocopter87]

Actually if you check past games I lean highly lean on catching scum off the NK's. it's a town tell for me, sorry to break it to you KMD.

oh BS

[Malakittens]

Town:

1. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=23126
2. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=23117 (Might not count since it was a delayed NK, so I lasted an extra Day when I shouldn't have)
3. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=23006

Scum:
1. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=23004
2. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=22308

[absta101]

I was sheep voting for pressure, that's it. Hawk CCd town, that's enough to remove his town read.
I still think scum is in Shamrock/Mala.
UNVOTE:
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@Mala

- It's Day 2 so tell us about your "PR".

[ProHawk]

@ absta

When you see my role flip, the CC will make sense. I don't know if Nexus intentionally made the contradiction, or if shos just read it wrong. Either way, we won't know as we don't get to see the card.

[Shamrock]

I was sheep voting for pressure, that's it. Hawk CCd town, that's enough to remove his town read.
I still think scum is in Shamrock/Mala.
UNVOTE:
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@Mala

- It's Day 2 so tell us about your "PR".

I thought you were sure I was scum because I was shos's buddy?

Do you have another reason for thinking I'm scum now?

[Kmd4390]

Mala, that's actually a fair self-meta to an extent. You clearly look at NKs as town and see it as a useful tool. And in the games you linked, you didn't seem to fake it. However, that doesn't mean you can't. That being said, it's somewhere between a null tell and a town tell. It's not nearly enough on it's own to define my read on you in this game. The focus on consistency in your own reads rather than the accuracy of your reads is still there as well as Day 1 play (which I still need to go back and read again).

vote absta

[Shamrock]

Her vote on absta was pretty good and well-reasoned but maybe I'm just biased because I think absta is scum.

On the other hand her ChaosOmega vote makes 0 sense because Mehdi's GNR push was policy rather than a scum read, I'm not sure if it's scummy though