Mini 1,384: Dirty Dealing (Game over!)

PiggyGal15 · Post Post #775 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:09 pm

My
only
concern
is

can
we
trust
that
Parama
Gunny
and
MoI
are
actually
town?

Soul2277 · Post Post #776 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:10 pm

It's a theory. I'm basing it off scum read locations (there's a ton of combos that'd make this useless if I didn't have town reads I believed quite a bit). I'm not asking to lynch a townread. Even if this doesn't make you think it's true, I already had thought that group of 4 was scum. It's mainly a supplementary reason (although I personally think it's a strong supplement). Joker is obviously chosen for jester. Going a step further and thinking Sc might have tried to have some fun with careful patterns for other things is far from impossible (both PRs were also a heart while all the diamonds were vanilla town). Patterns have been proven to exist. I doubt they're all coincidences.

~Mehdi

Voidedmafia · Post Post #777 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:11 pm

In post 773, GreyICE wrote:I started with the King of Spades, and I honestly don't think it matters. StrangerCoug would probably have used random.org to assign the cards the scumteam got. There's not going to be a pattern.

It's not definite, though. Even if random.org is more likely than a pattern, I'm not ruling out the latter.

Honestly, this reminds me of Reck's stupid chart in Fate mafia, and it's the same Information Instead of Analysis. Combined with Soul's stance that "the PR's make perfect sense" (even though EVERY SINGLE TIME Coug gave out more than one he gave a PR to SCUM so even if he believed Salamance's PR there'd be no reason to call him town) and Salamance's sudden change in reads (from Soul must die day 2 to "soul? What's a Soul?" day 3), yeah, I'm pretty confident in calling those two scum together.

And?

P-EDIT: Yeahthat.

Nobody Special · Post Post #778 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:11 pm

GREY

I AM TOWN

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #779 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:12 pm

If I had to plunge into setup spec I would throw darts at GI, Piggy, KJ. As my top picks.

P-edit
VOTE: Piggy

Soul2277 · Post Post #780 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:13 pm

Grey so are you saying the two other shown patterns are pure coincidence? (all vanilla in diamonds and both PR in hearts) Jester is joker is definitely not a coincidence which helps as well.

P-edit: AP I'd help you lynch GI much more easily then the other two.

~Mehdi

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #781 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:14 pm

Alternatively Voided/KJ/NS

Salamence20 · Post Post #782 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:14 pm

*Looks at Voided*
*Sees voided doesn't like Gamblers follicy*
*writes a Pie Chart*
*80% right*

*Requests more NS votes*

*Looks at Ice*
*Ignores from here on out*

Soul2277 · Post Post #783 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:16 pm

To be clear at the moment any of the kings is where I'd shoot so I'd vote anyone of the three that'd be likely to be lynched.

And AP do you really see voided as likely? Grey with Piggy also feels a bit unlikely?

~Mehdi

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #784 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:19 pm

Why not Grey Piggy? They've been mostly avoiding each other excpet a couple notable locations:
1. Piggy votes on a "lets get GI to talk" wagon
2. GI talks about how the PRs are scummy but really only pushes Sally.

Soul2277 · Post Post #785 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:21 pm

It's why I said a bit. The team with voided I really doubt though. Still would personally feel more comfortable with a grey lynch > piggy.

~Mehdi

Voidedmafia · Post Post #786 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:21 pm

In post 784, AngryPidgeon wrote:Why not Grey Piggy? They've been mostly avoiding each other excpet a couple notable locations:
1. Piggy votes on a "lets get GI to talk" wagon
2. GI talks about how the PRs are scummy but really only pushes Sally.

Point, but I feel NS is still the lynch today.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #787 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:24 pm

Killer/Soul. Neither of you has any sort of connection / anything in common to each other or PM?

GreyICE · Post Post #788 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:24 pm

In post 779, AngryPidgeon wrote:If I had to plunge into setup spec I would throw darts at GI, Piggy, KJ. As my top picks.

P-edit
VOTE: Piggy

Honestly, I'd rather lynch you than piggy. Just to stop your damn reads from getting everywhere.

GreyICE · Post Post #789 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:25 pm

In post 776, Soul2277 wrote:It's a theory. I'm basing it off scum read locations (there's a ton of combos that'd make this useless if I didn't have town reads I believed quite a bit). I'm not asking to lynch a townread. Even if this doesn't make you think it's true, I already had thought that group of 4 was scum. It's mainly a supplementary reason (although I personally think it's a strong supplement). Joker is obviously chosen for jester. Going a step further and thinking Sc might have tried to have some fun with careful patterns for other things is far from impossible (both PRs were also a heart while all the diamonds were vanilla town). Patterns have been proven to exist. I doubt they're all coincidences.

~Mehdi

You're scum with Salamance, in other words.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #790 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:25 pm

>.>

I never said Piggy was scum. But she is scummy for suggesting that PEOPLE WHO WERE NIGHT KILLED may not be town.

GreyICE · Post Post #791 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:26 pm

Right, because once in the history of mankind scum forgot who they night killed.

Wait, it actually never happened. Ever. In the history of mankind.

If there was a SK or something I might pay attention to it, but it's EVEN MORE LIKELY she's town off of that.

Soul2277 · Post Post #792 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:27 pm

All clubs. I know my alignment though. I realize there's a ton of patterns so it's only useful if you narrow which ones you're looking for by some.

P-edit: You're voting her when you could vote GI/PM/NS. It'd help a bit if you're vote was elsewhere.

~Mehdi

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #793 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:28 pm

I know, I was hoping she would respond to my vote but apparently nope. speaking of people cruising with their PRs though >.>

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #794 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:31 pm

Excuse me GI? I see Porky's point about this being a bastard mod game, but it didn't occur to her that the people NK'd are probably not scum? What?

Mehdi2277 · Post Post #795 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:33 pm

In post 791, GreyICE wrote:Right, because once in the history of mankind scum forgot who they night killed.

Wait, it actually never happened. Ever. In the history of mankind.

If there was a SK or something I might pay attention to it, but it's EVEN MORE LIKELY she's town off of that.

I thought both PRs were fake and scum considering you pushed the idea of a sala/piggy scum pair?

~Mehdi

Soul2277 · Post Post #796 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:33 pm

In post 791, GreyICE wrote:Right, because once in the history of mankind scum forgot who they night killed.

Wait, it actually never happened. Ever. In the history of mankind.

If there was a SK or something I might pay attention to it, but it's EVEN MORE LIKELY she's town off of that.

I thought both PRs were fake and scum considering you pushed the idea of a sala/piggy scum pair?

~Mehdi

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #797 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:34 pm

Goodposting ^

killerjester · Post Post #798 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:43 pm

Shotty was being productive post-hammer. And unless the scum are committing ritual seppuku every night I'm fairly convinced Parama and MoI are town as well.

My role PM says nothing about Soul, PM, or the nature of Clubs at all.

Soul2277 · Post Post #799 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:47 pm

Grey do you also think it's pure luck (along with all the coincidences which you barely address) I got voided's card right based on patterns alone when randomly 25 percent chance is all I'd have? Pretty confident they exist it's just which one is it (my main theory is all kings while AP prefers king, jack, queen).

~Mehdi