I love the 90's Cartoons - Game over all hail The Brain!

[PeregrineV]

Pere quickly,

Who do you suspect?
Why would MSH use his ability to clear scum, let alone Seanald?

None of his other "investigations" prove that.

Seanald on the "cleared" side, Jal, sword, Last on the "uncleared" side.

The reason is I can't believe that he bothered doing all this without some goal in mind. Why clear all town and leave his scumbuddy(s?) on the "uncleared" side. The moment he "cleared" everyone and started backtracking, he'd have to be lynched to prove his cop-ness. If someone comes up with a reason for him clearing all town, then maybe. But, it doesn't make much sense to me.

Of Jal, sword, Last, I'd have to look them over again. At various points in the early game I felt each had a time when I thought they were town, so I'd have to re-read early game.

[Oversoul]

See Pere

From anyone's point of view except yours...

You're under the same suspicion that you put Seanald.

Seanald himself could use your very logic against you.

What do you say to that?

[Jal]

I can't really explain why Lastsurvivor is the obvious choice mainly a gut reasoning and I feel like his interactions with all the flipped scum have been off. Hopefully I get more time and Ill go into this more but my mind is pretty made up, I can't really see anyone else being the scum except perhaps Pere but thats mainly based off of Amruns boner for him in the earlier days, I just ask the quesiton why the hell would Amrun run Pere that hard?

You've been on about Pere being possible scum since forever and you were the one who first brought up that Amrun and Pere were possibly busing each other hard. So, why the hell are you deciding to push LS now? I barely see anything about Lastsurvivor in your ISO either, except you accusing him of opportunistic bandwagoning D1 and something about confirming himself as scum in 1812 for trying to accuse you of something. Nothing really about him other than those few mentions, though.

You voted for Lastsurvivor after OS withdrew his vote, so I know you're not just copying him.

What I don't get is why "clear" me when people are already chomping at the bit to lynch me?

To clear a scum-Pere under heavy suspicion?

I'll give it to you though, that I did ask MSH to give priority to investigate you along with Paid_pyro and Lastsurvivor. But I don't get how that's so hard to possibly get.

[Jal]

There's one thing though. MSH was definitely bullshitting about investigating Seanald. It doesn't fit either way no matter which alignment Seanald is. Either Seanald is town and scum didn't need to investigate because he already claimed, or he's scum and.. why investigate him?

MSH initially cleared: Seanald, Poro, Oversoul v.2 and Rachel. MSH obviously investigated someone else, and not Seanald. Why clear Seanald though over the other person investigated? I guess the person could be dead, but why just not say that? That would still be 3 clears to "prove" his role to people.

[Oversoul]

Poro, what is your role name?

[Porochaz]

Babs Bunny, why?

[Oversoul]

Your role name is Babs?

That's your character name.

[PeregrineV]

See Pere

From anyone's point of view except yours...

You're under the same suspicion that you put Seanald.

Seanald himself could use your very logic against you.

What do you say to that?

I realize that. But I have my role PM to know my alignment. If Seanald flips town, it makes sense to lynch me anyway, using the logic I presented.

If 5:3 then no lynch is best anyway. But, since things point to 6:2, Seanald lynch is either 6:1 and I can be lynched anyway to take us to 5:1, or 5:2 and I can be lynched and then it'll be 3:2, but you'll have to know who the 2 are are that point.

[Porochaz]

1 shot universal backup with PR.

[Porochaz]

Can I please vote pere now?

[Porochaz]

Disregard that, this pangs of being way too easy.

[Seanald]

@Jal,

Its strange cuz I felt the reasonings Last survivor used on Pere is what I felt kind of towards LS. & and I feel it towards Pere so like wtf IDK MY BFF JYLL

[Jal]

This isn't going anywhere and Pere is always going to be a question mark. LS gives good reasoning to boot too.

VOTE: Peregrine

[PinkyandtheBrain]

vote count:

LastSurvivor (1) seanald,
Peregrine (3) last survivor, Lowman, Jal
Seanald (1) PeregrineV

With 8 alive it will take 5 to lynch

@Mod- do you allow a doublevoter to use thier ability in LYLO?

Depends. 1 shot doublevote would be a yes. Full doublevoter would be a no.

[Oversoul]

I really just feel like Peregrine is town after that whole setup spec and didn't include himself in the analysis. :/

I might hammer later today.

But im pretty sure scum lie in {Jal, LS, Poro, Sword} if Pere isn't scum. I just can't fathom Seanald's play as scum.

I have my own opinions about those in that group too. :/ I don't feel like Sword is scum. I want to say that Jal isn't based on MSH but I don't really know. Poro maybe could. But he just proved his role.

LS I feel like is a good chance but I will wait until LS flips.

[Porochaz]

Really? I found his whole setup analysis really scummy, the only reason I am not voting him is because I get the strong feeling that its very much VI and too many times Ive seen scum merge into the background, the fact that I couldn't give you a firm opinion on the 3 other players in your bracket worries the hell out of me.

[PeregrineV]

This isn't going anywhere and Pere is always going to be a question mark. LS gives good reasoning to boot too.

VOTE: Peregrine

So do you agree or disagree with my analysis of Michel's posts above?

[PeregrineV]

Really? I found his whole setup analysis really scummy, the only reason I am not voting him is because I get the strong feeling that its very much VI and too many times Ive seen scum merge into the background, the fact that I couldn't give you a firm opinion on the 3 other players in your bracket worries the hell out of me.

Since I feel that if nothing else I've proven that you and Oversoul are town, curious as to why it's scummy?

And I'll take it that means you disagree with it? Which part?

[Jal]

Oversoul, I swear you keep saying that every person being ran up is town, and then you proceed to vote for them. Why is Pere town to you? You initially said that you thought Lastsurvivor was scum, but then you withdrew your vote on him. Why?

P-edit: Pere, you basically just restated what I said D7 that there's probably one scum in the cleared pool and one out of it (considering a scum-Michel). So, yes, I agree.

[Oversoul]

Oversoul, I swear you keep saying that every person being ran up is town, and then you proceed to vote for them. Why is Pere town to you? You initially said that you thought Lastsurvivor was scum, but then you withdrew your vote on him. Why?

P-edit: Pere, you basically just restated what I said D7 that there's probably one scum in the cleared pool and one out of it (considering a scum-Michel). So, yes, I agree.

Does that make you angry?

I gave reasons for my gut thinking about players. Paid Pyro and Cheery and Pere are all
Players that I thought didn't play well but I felt were town for the play they did do.

Amrun wanting the town to fuck Pere's corpse is interesting as she pulled the same crap of "why no Pere votes" with RBT and RBT was town. I dont know if Pere flipping scum would have given her credit. I don't think it would because she wasn't particularly vocal about it other than being "he is"

While that could easily flip in terms of Pere being town or scum depending on how you look at it, I just can't make my mind up.

In a way I checked out after Paid Pyro's flip. What was your comment about coasting for the next three days after MSH flipped?

[Oversoul]

LS, what do you think of Jal with relation to MSH calling him town?

[Porochaz]

Trying to work out where you cleared me Pere.

[PeregrineV]

Trying to work out where you cleared me Pere.

Mostly through the fact Poro-scum would be better off not claiming the double-voter and giving it to his scumbuddy, who could use it to smash the hammer vote on town.

TV Show: Animaniacs
Character: Thaddeus Plotz
Win Condition:

You win when The Brain Mafia equal or outnumber the town and nothing can prevent this

Michel Sableheart - Thaddeus Plotz - Mafia Role Cop - Lynched day 8

If 3 scum then we'd be lylo, scum-Oversoul would use doublevote making it 4:3, then scum NK means they would win.

Scum-Poro would not give double-vote to town, since we already thought it was gone:

The next night I tried to give oversoul a double vote. Which got nullified by rachmaries role... still I tried to give another hint to my role here plus who I targetted.

This means you are probably town.

So, 3 man scumteam (possible by Mod response 2763) scum-Oversoul hammers, game over. That hasn't happened, so either town-Oversoul or 2 man scumteam.
If 2 man scumteam, scum Poro still doesn't give double-vote to town, Poro still town.

[Jal]

Does that make you angry?

Uh, no?

It makes me frustrated with you being the biggest town read of mine. It's like those people who are found to be confirmed town (I know you aren't) in games, and they just don't really do anything afterwards. It makes me go, "WHHHHHY?"

What was your comment about coasting for the next three days after MSH flipped?

Mostly if MSH flipped town.

That hasn't happened, so either town-Oversoul or 2 man scumteam.

How is it either or?

[PeregrineV]

@Jal- 3 man scumteam means town-Oversoul (lack of game-winning hammer), 2 man scumteam means Oversoul could be scum.
But in that case, why prolong the game when I'm the clear favorite to die today? No scum motivation to scum-Oversoul to not hammer.