Mafiastuck (GAME OVER TOWN WINS!)

[Vifam]

/Confirm

[Vifam]

I tried reading homestuck once, got pissed off since I was reading a whole lot of nothing during the first act.

Is the second act better?

[Vifam]

Okay Im gonna give it another go since I like Visual Novels

[Vifam]

I think he means that confirming by PM with the thread locked is better.

I think it's done these days cuz mods are lazy, I can't blame them

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That's a challenge

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Hahaha this is gonna go swimmingly

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Yeah man it's purple

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I thought I was losing it too, but then I did a double take

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Fags

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Oh, epic is a hydra.

Carry on.

Petapan + Empire to be exact

[Vifam]

Nobody wants to do that though

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Holy crap me next

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Hmm, this game might actually be partially broken depending on how the mod distributed roles/alignments, but I'll whistle innocently the other way and ignore it.

No

[Vifam]

Six

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Uh lets not post more irrelevant shit

[Vifam]

Oh my god I remember 100 boxes

[Vifam]

VOTE: Sunshine and Rainbows

[Vifam]

god confirmation phase is boring
i want to vote people, shit

Gah this is actually pretty bad

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Nachomamma8

[Vifam]

God I hate the usernames in this game what the fuck were you people thinking when you typed most of that shit in

Both Phil and Nachoman have painfully awkward posts but Phil's first post seems somewhat genuine, meanwhile Nacho's pretending that he's so freakin' PROTOWN and excited to LYNCH SOME SCUM!

[Vifam]

Yeah well your mother sucks

Ah well

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Phillammon

[Vifam]

Your username is easily the worst out of the bunch.

[Vifam]

Actually that might be untrue

[Vifam]

Noir is a pretty lame vote if you ask me

[Vifam]

well okay you're wrong

That was a ice cold response

[Vifam]

It's cool man it just caught me off guard

[Vifam]

Vote: Noir

I'm assuming that was Faraday, so sheeping time.
Also nikanor is town because those reads are out of space.

God I hate the usernames in this game what the fuck were you people thinking when you typed most of that shit in

Both Phil and Nachoman have painfully awkward posts but Phil's first post seems somewhat genuine, meanwhile Nacho's pretending that he's so freakin' PROTOWN and excited to LYNCH SOME SCUM!

no, I was pretending that I was bored and ready to actually play because being able to post but not being able to do anything meaningful sucks

It still came out as outrageously fake and it looked like you were attempting to seem protown, which was the point I was getting at.

[Vifam]

If it feels so fake, then why aren't people voting me for it?

I can't speak / make votes for everyone else.

[Vifam]

Also i don't see how your vote is any different seeing as your voting on Noir solely because you saw Faraday vote for Noir.

[Vifam]

Okay fair enough

[Vifam]

Dude, Mods aren't dumb.

If titan honestly believes that this game can be broken by mod distribution then he is a total idiot.

Seriously, if Gorrad has been around long enough to Mod a large theme and can't properly distribute roles, then I will eat my hat.

this sounded kinda townish nikanor. what don't you like?

it's not that post in particular his posts are just overly vehement. feels like he's putting on a show of being aggressive.

also vifam is probably scum too.
like holy shit going from reading his f62 posts to reading these posts is like watching a honey badger transform into a sea cucumber.

What the hell does that mean?

[Vifam]

Are you trying to say Im being too nice or something I have no idea what you're on about

[Vifam]

Sea cucumbers are not organisms noted for their usefulness. Also notable for growing exclusively in the black fedoras of the sicilian mafia. Or not. My memory's a little hazy.

I don't know if that is what he is getting at

[Vifam]

Arrived. 126 was in the wrong game, details withheld for o8bvious reasons, and I fail to see how there's anything weird about my confirmation post either. Epic, Titan and SAD, admirable as trying to catch people is Confirmation stage is, it only really works as reaction testing from what I've seen. Which is admittedly low amounts, but still.

As for everything else: VOTE: Vifam. That was an odd u-turn, and 4th man on an (effectively) page 1 wagon?

PEdit: Yes. Also, interesting metaphor.

That seems like a town post but since you voted me Im tempted to throw you into the fires of hell.

But I wont since Im civil.

UNVOTE:

[Vifam]

That seems like a town post

Plz explain or get ur vote back on kthx.

It seemed legit.

And I don't think he was stressing over anything he simply pointed out four people voted him and you decided it meant he was sweating real hard.

[Vifam]

That made no fucking sense at all

[Vifam]

Vote: Robocopter87.

Cheery Dog probably scum too.

VOTE: Robocopter87

One scum caught.

ha ha...

can we get a votecount?

[Vifam]

Robocopter please stop

[Vifam]

I have pink eye and Im stuck in my house on Halloween night, I could be fucking some girl dressed as my favorite Japanese cartoon character right now, you're breaking me down and hurting me emotionally, please stop.

[Vifam]

Thanks

Anyway I don't think xtoph is scum, I mean he could be, even though his posts are a whole lot of nothing (which is hilarious cuz that is what he is apparently calling me out on lmfao), I don't think it was particularly scummy.

I haven't nearly spent as much time as some other people have on Alsark's joke. I don't understand why you're calling me out on taking "so much" of my time and my "effort" to say what I wanted to say.

Because you really could've focusd on something that was more productive. Here it just looks like you are trying to gain towncred by analyzing stuff when it's really not helpful to the town at all when all you conclude is that the claims were a joke. You know, town's posts come from town thought, and I would very much like to understand why chose to focus on those specific things and analyze them.

Again, it's how I talk.

Where most will say "Guys get over it, it looks like Alsark was joking", I will say what I think and tell you why I think it. So my posts will be {evidence and conclusion} so another player can post {agreement or disagreement}, instead of {conclusion} then {questioning} then {evidence}. It ends up taking less time (in theory), plus it helps me to organise my thoughts both while posting and while reading through the thread.

I won't post random thoughts or baseless arguments. If I don't know why I think something, I work out why I do. If I can't work out why, I don't voice that opinion.

This post could probably better but I think he was honestly trying to convey his way of communication even though it sounds retarded and scumlike.

[Vifam]

Okay I didn't ask

[Vifam]

graaah

how many times is Sora Advent gonna dodge posting in this thread

[Vifam]

I know you're there just come out and admit you are scum

[Vifam]

You're probably okay

[Vifam]

to clarify one head will put in less tryhard style and the other will grace you with walls

right now its early and neither of us have a wall to contribute

someone summarize the phase of events for now while i skim

Just read it, the majority of the game so far are 1 liners.

Do us all a favor and shoot torg for his unbearable posting.

Torg is a pretty cool dude and he's honestly made this game a lot less of a aggravating experience for me so far.

[Vifam]

He could be scum though ISO #9 is pretty bad but he's such a wonderful addition to the game, who cares

[Vifam]

He means shot with a bullet bakalord

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dont do this stream of consciousness bullshit it's not helpful

It clogs up the thread but i'd prefer it over a huge wall seeing as this is the begging of the game and all.

[Vifam]

beginning* God DAMM IT

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Yeah this is actually the best wagon so far

VOTE: NumberQ

[Vifam]

Bang Bang - Chief Keef

[Vifam]

The cube's early posting was pretty town if you ask me. Although it hasn't been consistent, throughout the confirmation stage and the start of D1 he was leaning town, so Im not sure. I still would say he's town though.

Would it be wrong if it's partly be ause his avatar bugs me? Thats stupid and i dont even know why. Like I get the relaxed bit because he actually does come off relaxed. I not like the jump on nacho and his unvoting of Phil reads off to me.

Pedit: to epic about vifam

The avatar is fine, just a little provocative, but that is what I am going for so you can eat it.

hello. should be obvious what typing quirk I'm using. anyway, I see nothing so far in terms of reads. it's all very confusing so far, and Robo's selfvote just makes it all the more confusing. i'll wait an IRL day or so and get back with some reads.

You're really bad


DeasVail and CherryDog are probably both scum. ftr. DeasVail more so than CherryDog.'

All these other wagons (Except for the one on Q which is kind of legit) are pretty bad.

UNVOTE:


VOTE: DeasVail

[Vifam]

Urgh, too many pages!

Sunman is badman because he was trying to be all chatty and town in the earlier part of the confirmation phase, but wasn't actually. I'm not voting sunman though, because Qman is evilman, not badman.

Does anyone know if xtoph usually does the defending himself hardcore thing?

Robo, I thought you were town, but your self-vote seems pretty unnatural.

And alsark is amazing.

D: but he doesn't like me! Well he's no longer amazing or town then. By the way, I thought I'd be voting for Alduskkel or however you spell it. And epic, that explanation would have been too obvious. Clearly, if I didn't want a sense of mystery surrounding my post, I would have just sad who I planned to vote for? Also, my meta = gets lynched as town. Ooo, and DeasFail is better.

And paschendale, it's the ones not worthy of much attention that are scum. Well maybe not always, but yeah...

Also he's kind of scummy, but I'm not sure about the thinking Alsark's claim was real thing yet. Eh, NumberQ is still a fine wagon anyway.

These reads are all kinds of scum lets be honest.

[Vifam]

Yeah Pasch is pretty lousy so far

[Vifam]

Actually every cheery dog post seems super forced so far and like he doesn't know how to settle. He's probably scum. Voting from a phone is a pain but you should all vote him.

Yeah that is what I was thinking too

[Vifam]

Yeah but that isn't naturally scummy is it

[Vifam]

Whatever I dont have a full grasp on the term

Tell me what you meant by that metaphor earlier, since it went way pass my head.

[Vifam]

Noir is probably my weakest town read but it's probably because I have no idea what his thought process is, although he might just not have one.

It's more of a gutread on him, plus he's a really cool guy.

[Vifam]

Combat is a bad wagon everyone on DeasVail

[Vifam]

Combat is a bad wagon everyone on DeasVail

explain why you think it's bad. i won't agree with you because i don't actually care about your opinion on things but i want to understand where you're coming from

Okay that's fair enough, I think I said it earlier.

The cube's early posting was pretty town if you ask me. Although it hasn't been consistent, throughout the confirmation stage and the start of D1 he was leaning town, so Im not sure. I still would say he's town though.

[Vifam]

What posts by him do you think are bad? I went through his ISO and the only one that really seemed terrible was the last one. The way he backed off Nacho seemed kind of fake/weak but I did the same thing sort of, so it's like whatever

[Vifam]

By other guy you mean other half of your hydra, right?

[Vifam]

With Rubik it was the Noir vote and the Nacho suspicion retraction for me, but I've actually ISOd him and kinda agree with Pandorica, so...

Unvote: Combinatorial

Sunshine:

Where did Pasch say he was kidding?

I would probably vote Cheery Dog here, but

Vote: Vifam

Lol

[Vifam]

Alright seriously we have to vote DeasVail, get it in gear folks.

[Vifam]

I don't negotiate with terrorists.

[Vifam]

Or scum in this case

[Vifam]

The latter

[Vifam]

Hmm ok.

Unvote: Vifam

Vote: Cheery Dog

That was really strange DeasVail.

!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vifam]

Did you even have a goal in the first place? Your vote on me seemed completely trivial and Im pretty sure you were just attempting to get down at my level for some dumb reason.

[Vifam]

Vifam's probably not.

You've got to be kidding me

[Vifam]

Robocopter comes in with the best post in the thread so far

[Vifam]

Robocopter just slammed the game with some cool stuff and you guys are slamming him for it

[Vifam]

That could have been posted better though

[Vifam]

Leave Robo alone vote DeasVail

[Vifam]

Shooting Sora would seriously kickass I have to admit

[Vifam]

so most of the posting in the thread right now seems useless.
so I am probably going to lurk for a little while.

Not if I had the ability to stop you

[Vifam]

But I dont sooooooo

[Vifam]

Im having a decent time so far

[Vifam]

Nah Im just a regular pothead

[Vifam]

Your attempt to shrug off the suspicion on you by acting clueless isn't gonna work.

[Vifam]

Whatever I dont have a full grasp on the term

Tell me what you meant by that metaphor earlier, since it went way pass my head.

I meant that you somehow performed a vertibrectomy on yourself and hid all of your little vertibraes where nobody could see them. To put it outside of a metaphor, I was talking about your tendency to use statement-weakening words like 'probably' and 'pretty', like you're trying to leave room to back out of your words later if you have to. You're saying some pretty good wordthings now though so I guess it's just your posting style.

Okay sure man

Pasch just keeps getting worse, I don't know if it's cuz he's bad but wow this is not going well for him.

This wagon on Deas is cool though so lets keep on chugging

[Vifam]

Did you even have a goal in the first place? Your vote on me seemed completely trivial and Im pretty sure you were

just attempting to get down at my level for some dumb reason.

[Vifam]

Uh, to me it seemed you were attempting to look confrontational to try to seem town. Is what Im saying

[Vifam]

I can feel the weight of this game crushing me for some reason

[Vifam]

Probably the one on me

[Vifam]

I don't know I think he was talking about the initial vote

[Vifam]

Is there any chance Pasch is just bad cuz that was honestly the vibe I was getting from him at first, I guess he could be scum but Village Idiot looks like a much better label for him

[Vifam]

Deflection is not your best move

[Vifam]

Im willing to give you a chance but you are literally sinking your own ship

[Vifam]

In games this size and this early, who is found the most scummy is probably mostly random, even though were well past rvs

It's like you're not even in the game

[Vifam]

I honestly think Pasch was putting in genuine town effort, I remember my first big theme game being like this, I think I was town tracker or something. I acted just like he did and ended up replacing out too

[Vifam]

Por's other aggressive head is kind of weighing the game down, in a cool way though.

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:

[Vifam]

I kind of think the vote on Buld seemed kind of town, which is kind of the reason I unvoted for the minute.

I also liked the way he backed off on him too, asking him to "unclaim" (which is retarded) rang as town to me.

[Vifam]

VOTE: malpascp

Bad reaction to the scum claim, especially the "playing to your win condition" bit.

[Vifam]

I didn't say that it was town cuz it was retarded, It's retarded, but despite that, it seemed genuine. I don't think Malp has the same type of posting when it came to Buld's scum claim.

[Vifam]

He's on that list of players that became irrelevant as soon as the day actually started, along with NumberQ

[Vifam]

??? flake? cereal?

Oh my god you are the best

[Vifam]

it's fairly obvious arthur's decided that malp is scum and is bs'ing reasons to vote him. i don't know whether he's doing it maliciously or not but it really should stop. malp's reaction looks townish to me. the modkill request + the asking the mod if there were PR's makes it genuine.

Again, it only means he and blunder aren't on the same team. If there's two scum or w/e Malp would still get worked up to try and get a lynch that isn't on his team. Or he could just be pushing a mislynch. It's scummy in either case.

The fact that his posts don't show coherent thought process in attempting to determine whether Blunder is scum or not is scummy. It's like

There is not town thought process: "Oh hey look he claimed scum let me just blow it up and get worked up and just keep posting that he should die without considering anything else. Oh yea because scum just love to claim scum like that. Yea that must be it."

it's like you're just thinking about some fucking ideal town play and not considering that malp might do this as town? him getting worked up over it makes me think he thought he'd found scum. the more you try to explain it as pushing a mislynch or w/e the more confused i get on how you can see it like that.

I don't know what he's on about, but the reaction Malp pulled just seemed fake from my perspective. Especially the part about "Not playing to your win condition" that specifically seemed like he was trying to pretend like he was just disgusted by what Buld did, which I don't believe he really was at all.

[Vifam]

You guys are being bullies

[Vifam]

Im sorry they're being so mean to you Cheerydog.

But you've got to be fucking kidding me

[Vifam]

Well to be honest voting me is pretty dumb


Tarzano is really annoying.

[Vifam]

And that's all I gotta say

[Vifam]

Patience, young padawan

[Vifam]

AV's last post was kind of scummy

[Vifam]

This game is losing energy real fast

[Vifam]

How is being controversial town

[Vifam]

No one is gonna vote Malp and Im probably wrong about him, fuck it


UNVOTE:

[Vifam]

Meh.

I kind of would rather want to vote AV at the moment but I've had my suspicions of CheeryDog, maybe when Im more energetic

[Vifam]

How is being controversial town

I'm town, and I'm being controversial, that's how.

I don't think you're that controversial

[Vifam]

Uh I think the word is confrontational

[Vifam]

Okay

VOTE: Pasch

Lets just do it, with the rate this is going people are gonna lose interest and the mod will have to pick up replacements.

[Vifam]

Oh my bad son

VOTE: Tazaro

[Vifam]

Okay stop posting

[Vifam]

Yeah

VOTE: Avox

[Vifam]

R.I.P Epic

[Vifam]

This fate dude is wildin' out

[Vifam]

Why didn't anyone shoot Robocopter he's not entertaining at all anymore

[Vifam]

Sunshine and Rainbow's push on that guy feels off, that might be cuz Im glazing over anything though. That or, Im confusing Sunshine and Rainbow with not being text heavy like she/he was in D1

[Vifam]

also, while I'm here, let me say that I'm a bit paranoid of Z's "tryhard" mode today. It's like his scumteam took a hell of a hit yesterday and he wants to STEP UP because someone needs to carry his team now that the Faraday is dead. but he *might* have decided to stop being useless as fuck now that the posting is thinned out a lil' bit?

who knows

This is a dumb notion

[Vifam]

I'm gonna actually read the thread and provide some thought in a minute or two, you guys

[Vifam]

Zdenek came in swinging HEAVY, his first few posts didn't really strike me as town, but at the moment he's leaning town based on his outburst, which seemed genuine.


Porf wasn't looking so great during that whole dispute, especially this part:

Zdenek is also a possible scum candidate for the light greens, but malpascp must die first.

Why do you think I am scum?

why the fuck do you care

should i respond to your attack back to me or did you just AtE like a bitch

He could just be a dick though lol

Maenaera attacking BT for his vote on Xtoph seemed like BS, he's probably scum, along with Avox who has been incredibly scummy since the minute he replaced in.

[Vifam]

Fate why is AV town

[Vifam]

Z has some decent points when it comes to Malp

[Vifam]

So Malp is one of the lightgreen scum? I can roll with this

Im guessing Combat couldn't have been black scum with the way Noir was pushing the lynch, since if memory serves correctly I think he was the first one to push it. I have a feeling Noir wasn't rolling with Porf either cuz of post #535

Vote: Cheery Dog

I would have voted Noir but he died.

This is forced and AV was probably tag teaming it up with Noir.

[Vifam]

Like, the fact that AV even decided to type that he would have voted Noir should condemn him as dark black scum

[Vifam]

What the fuck are the colors in this game shit

[Vifam]

Fate is entertaining though

[Vifam]

Actually fate is entertaining because of his bravado not really his posting but whatever

[Vifam]

I should be V man

[Vifam]

Vifam is scum!

The fuck is this

[Vifam]

I dont think ABC is in this game

[Vifam]

torg: we were also at the base of the pasch wagon a while before that, cool selective reading tho (also for some reason my partner keeps thinking your avatar is a ballsack and not a photoshopped pear??)

man i don't have anything more to say. i still like sheeping malp lynch. i think both malp and maenara are more likely to flip scum than the avox wagon since while avox's post history is Objectively Bad the vote on my slot makes me think he's still thinking independently, don't see scum intent in him voting us when we were pretty widely a town read

i'm not actually analyzing zdenek's posts but since his vote is on zeta he probably doesn't have town's best interest in mind

Malp/Maenera/Avox are all good lynches but Avox desperately needs the rope.

[Vifam]

It's intense isn't it? But it looks like he's genuinely having fun so Im down

[Vifam]

fate let's not be enemies we together we could rule this town

let's agree to disagree and vote vifam

No

[Vifam]

Yeah Fate is probably wrong about a bevy of things especially that read on Phil who is most likely town

[Vifam]

it must feel good knowing you can lurk all day and make sick comments thinking nobody will give a damn about you

Yeah well you're dumb

[Vifam]

where the fuck is that town-read coming from

who am i shooting tonight, ill give you the option to choose for me

Everything he's said since D1 has seemed pretty town tonally. Plus lets not forget the fact that Tazaro pulled a half ass push on him towards the end of his life so chances are he isn't part of the light green scum in the first place, just based on that simple interaction. That's enough for me to think he's town at the minute so he's a bad lynch/vig shot/whatever

[Vifam]

must be a really hard decision for you not to make a response in 2 minutes

I thought you were joking

[Vifam]

Shoot the people who are not blatantly town.

[Vifam]

I.E a few lurkers and the people titan listed

[Vifam]

Fate could be scum but I like fate, plus scum from either side are probably gonna kill him anyway so whatever.

[Vifam]

I don't know I think my ego is pretty huge and I think your ego is pretty huge too

[Vifam]

We should all team up

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Malp

[Vifam]

Okay stop this is legitimately dumb.

[Vifam]

My brow is covered in SWEAT right now, help

[Vifam]

Yeah I think Fate wouldn't even dare do it as a joke which is pretty funny

I feel like such a dominant force in this game, like the captain of the Titanic.

[Vifam]

Is that some sort of metaphor for my future or were you trying to grill me

[Vifam]

Damm

[Vifam]

I have made an easy 5 step method for YOU to be pro-town.

1) Look at first post, and notice the two light green mafia flips.

2) ISO Malp.

3) Notice his relationship to the two light green flipped scums and his useless posting and shitlurking trying to blow away his wagon.

4) Vote Malp.

5) Spread the news to others to support Vote Malp 2012.

If you give Malp your vote, good people of Mafiastuck, you’ll have a lynch which hears your voice—which fights for your cause of lynching scum. Don't let the voice of the few be overwhelmed by the voices of the unhelpful. It is your duty, your obligation, people of Mafiastuck, to help lynch scum. So vote Malp, good people, and know in your hearts that you’ll be making the right decision.

I'm

Malp

Titan and I approve this message.

This guy claims to be 6-0 as mafia in his signature. If this is true I really can't see him make the obvious mistakes in bussing and buddying that his ISO with respect to Tazaro and Pandorica would imply.

Have you actually looked at those games?

[Vifam]

Malp's last two posts are objectively terrible

[Vifam]

It's my jizz face.

This game is huge, bigger than I'm used to. I have read through the last 30 pages, and have read some ISO's.
My vote goes to VIFAM , because all his posts are short, and practically useless. I see a Mafia in hiding.
I simply don't have time to read all the posts, so this is all I got.
I know VIFAM has no votes at the moment, but I don't want to join a wagon I don't believe in.

VOTE: vifam

You are bad

[Vifam]

Im not doubting that it's true, Im saying that him being 6-0 can mean he just lucked out and had a decent scum team, or a lackadaisical town, for all we know he could have gotten lynched in the first day in most of those games. His scum record doesn't necessarily reflect his performance, especially with such a low amount of scum games.

Does anyone have some actual meta on Malp's scum game? I'd do it myself but I dont want to

[Vifam]

Sunshine and Rainbows doesn't seem scum why are you saying this

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:

Mehdi's sudden vote left a bad taste in my mouth

[Vifam]

Urgh that just might be second guessing the lynch in general now that Malp is close to a hammer

Ftr, I'd still rather lynch Avox, is there any chance we could get THAT wagon going?

[Vifam]

In fact once we lynch AVox and he flips scum, can someone shoot Fate?

[Vifam]

In fact once we lynch AVox and he flips scum, can someone shoot Fate?

[Vifam]

It wasn't so much Mehdi, it was more me just worried about Malp somehow being the wrong choice but after his claim Im starting to not give a fuck. So he's a superjailor, what is his character? Seems like a surprising lack of info on his role, seeing as he is on the verge of death. It's probs fake.


VOTE: Malp

[Vifam]

You actually believe the claim? Sounds like BS to me

[Vifam]

Everything about it just seems like it was made up at the spur of the moment. Mostly the lack of a character along with his actual role. I just don't believe it, but Im willing to let him try to explain it to us.

[Vifam]

Do you guys actually think scum will bother with killing Malp in the first place?

[Vifam]

That was a question to all the people who thinks Malp will "draw" the kill if he really is town

[Vifam]

The way I see it, the way Malp outted as a town jailer pretty much condemns him. Town do not string along their role especially when they're a PR. The lack of information when you're on the verge of a lynch with most of the town wanting your neck is ridiculous. Where is the town thought process in that? There isn't one at all.

Okay

VOTE: Pasch

Lets just do it, with the rate this is going people are gonna lose interest and the mod will have to pick up replacements.

My name is Tazaro, not Pasch

Oh my bad son

VOTE: Tazaro

This reads fake (since Taz has been in the game for some while now and I don't think Vifam is that inattentive).

Plus here:

Urgh that just might be second guessing the lynch in general now that Malp is close to a hammer

Doesn't add up with the fact that he just decided to hammer Taz right away

The reason for the hammer on Pasch was because

1. His last few posts before he was lynched were extremely bad and just reeked of scum apathy

2.At the time we needed 4 replacements, Noir was threatening to replace (Even though he flipped scum, whatever), and the activity in town grinded to a halt. If it wasn't for that hammer we probably would have lost a few more. It gave the mod time to get his stuff together. And ended a day that basically became "So when are we gonna lynch Tazaro" a little shorter so the replacements didn't have to sit through 10 more pages of repetitive agreement from half the town.

[Vifam]

Zdenek is still scum as fuck no matter WHAT HE FLIPS

AND IF DGB IS STILL ALIVE IN THREE FUCKIN DAYS AND IM DEAD YOU DONT LET HER SWEETTALK HER WAY TO NO GODDAMN VICTORY

Someone shoot Fate

[Vifam]

What was wrong with it? The bravado? The whole "Nacho is scum thing"?

[Vifam]

Vifam I'm also curious where would mafia bother shooting him come in. The idea is for me to shoot him.

I didn't read your claim or your plan or whatever, what are you on about?

[Vifam]

I want you shot because your a scum but it's hard to get a lynch on you and Im not a leader of men.

[Vifam]

Cuz If I was I'd have you, Malp, Avox, and a few others roped up.

[Vifam]

Vifam I claimed vig. My plan was basically shoot malpa and him jailkeep me under the guess that if he's green scum he won't be a RB since that'd mean green scum would have two role blockers.

What if he's a scum jailkeeper?

[Vifam]

Your false bravado doesn't really fool me Vifam, I can see you for what you truly are

Holy shit I can't believe you just said that

[Vifam]

Fate's right

[Vifam]

Is CE even still officially in this game?

[Vifam]

CE might be a good lynch seeing as Epic was NK'd and his suspicions were Titan + CE, if were going by that those two could be black scum I guess. idktho I just came to that conclusion 10 seconds ago

[Vifam]

And that's assuming it wasn't the green scum who off'd him

[Vifam]

I'll follow the plan if we lynch Avox

[Vifam]

P-edit: The kills is something I've considered a bit, but have yet to see someone comment on the obvious. Why was there 3 kills? The two vig claims both say they either didn't shoot or shot didn't work (which would mean a potential 5 kills per night).

I don't know i'm sure it will work itself out later

[Vifam]

What is the "felt"

[Vifam]

I actually think Malp's last outburst was genuine, maybe we should let him live but every other wagon that isn't Avox is stupid.

[Vifam]

Lets lynch the lemon, guys

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Avox

[Vifam]

Every case that's been brought up on CheeryDog has been terrible or weak in general. Especially the thing about Noir interactions which aren't even close to condemning on his part.

[Vifam]

Meanwhile Avox is blatantly one of the scummiest people in the game and Fate's going "lol he's town trust me guys", while throwing hilariously bad cases at players like Zdenek.

What I'm saying is, if it's not gonna be Malp, it should be lemon, than Fate soon after.

[Vifam]

Avox has been generally scummy since he replaced in D1

Noir's vote is protown.

I actually think Robo might be scum

Vote: Cheery Dog

I would have voted Noir but he died.

See this? See how it doesn't make sense?????

Honestly his overall play has been incredibly scummy, just about everything he's posted has rubbed me the wrong way. Give this man to the gods.

[Vifam]

Fate bathing in tears after I slay his cohort lemon than soon after him

[Vifam]

DGB lend me your vote

[Vifam]

Vifam how is that a contradiction? Liking someone's vote =/= liking them. If he's obviouslyscummy you could add more then two quotes that aren't even a contradiction.

I was going more for the fact that Avox only mentioned Noir in that one post where he said his vote was protown, then the minute Noir flips scum he's like "MAN I WOULD HAVE LYNCHED HIM BUT NOW I CAN'T CUZ HE'S DEAD." And distancing himself from Noir for virtually no reason at all.

[Vifam]

-His push on S&R

fuck man i don't know what to think about nacho about this point, his actual content leans town but his rhetoric is forced as shit. like there's nothing even implying fate's slot is town

If you continue pushing piss like this then I won't be dropping it so soon.

From what I could tell Sunshine and Rainbows wasn't even gunning for a Nacho lynch at the moment in the first place, she was just making a comment on his play. Yet Avox jumps on her/him for pushing????

-"Forgetting" Titan "claimed" scum
Self explanitory
-His appeal to Maenera

?

I have played as well as I can. I'm playing the long game here, Maenara.

Is SAR a popular wagon or one that doesn't make sense? Hmm?
Did I get on Pasch because he was popular, or way before? Hmm?

Oh yeah, I forgot Titan scumclaimed. Thanks for reminding me. He can go die after you.

Goes from "Sorry Maenara I'm just trying my best honestly " to "haha you're next Maenara heh heh"

[Vifam]

Seriously though why are we letting waggons like CheeryDog go off when Avox is cruisin' his way through the game

[Vifam]

Yeah I literally came up with that in a few seconds, and if Zdenek wrote that in one of his huge ass paragraphs I probably skimmed over it.

[Vifam]

If I did read that earlier I probs would have just quoted it and not waste my time typing it myself

[Vifam]

CE might be a good lynch seeing as Epic was NK'd and his suspicions were Titan + CE, if were going by that those two could be black scum I guess. idktho I just came to that conclusion 10 seconds ago

Did you really just come to that conclusion 10 seconds ago? Or we're you inspired by zdenek who floated a similar idea as well as other head saying you might be scum. Also, of you think we're black scum. Go back and read noir then tell me how likely that is. Ill be waiting.

Look. Vifam's black may be white, and vice-versa, but he's sounding transparently town.

I know what transparent town looks like, I have a mirror. This ain't it. This looks to me like throwing random shit in the air to see what sticks and to make it look like you're busy. Also, if we are potentially scum because epic expressed suspicion of us, but didn't even try to push us, why are we black scum? Why aren't we just scum? Why the differentiation?

It's just a guess because I don't see a Pandorica + CE + Titan + Pasch team.

Anyway to be honest I'm not even pushing this. it was just a comment from something i realized in a few minutes calm yourself a bit

[Vifam]

Okay why???

[Vifam]

That list sucks except for maybe G_N_R, Sanjay, and Maenara, and to a lesser extent Broodking

[Vifam]

4 more to lynch Avox, kthx

[Vifam]

cuz ur scum

Ur scum, actually

[Vifam]

I don't see anything there that looks like a softclaim

[Vifam]

....

Oh okay point taken

[Vifam]

I guess I stand corrected because it explains a lot of things in hindsight buuuuuuuuuuuut I still don't feel good about the lemon, or fate, or the wagon on CheeryDog.

[Vifam]

Last line is the only thing I can remotely see being feasiable.

If you are a town-PR you don't

1) soft-claim it in an unspecific fashion so obviously
2) you do not proclaim to be playing well and turn around later when someone accuses you of playing like crap and tell them they'll understand. Which is an equivlent to acknowledging that you are playing like crap

This, basically.