Marketplace Mafia II - Game Over

[Gentlemen Bastards]

Pere, you should have claimed with these earlier, also oracle isn't up for auction tomorrow night?

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We're filling this out today. Would have been better if Stefan didn't blatantly state he had full-funds and would be going for NK but at this point there's nothing to do about it. Once this list is complete

no one

other than the person whose name is next to the item should be bidding on the item.

Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 -
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 -
Banker: Checks to see how much money someone has. x2 -
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 --
Night-kill -

StefanB

MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)-
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) -
Follower: Tracker. x2 -
Stalker: Watcher -

Gentlemen Bastards

[Tazaro]

Folks, can I volunteer for Auction Investigator?

[Magua]

Vote Count 1.15

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

D3f3nd3r (7): Mehdi2277, StefanB, greygnarl, PeregrineV, Phillammon, Tazaro, BBmolla
Seanald (3): SlumberPartyBois, Gentlemen Bastards, Pitty
Tammy (1): Elmo TeH AzN
BBmolla (1): GreyICE

Not Voting (7): Guille2015, Voidedmafia, D3f3nd3r, Eidolon, Seanald, Salamence20, Tammy

Deadline is November 12th, at 11:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2012-11-12 22:00:00)

[Voidedmafia]

I'd volunteer for Follower or MoNA.

[Salamence20]

Sixth Sense plox.

[BBmolla]

I'll pay for the marketplace's catering services. Do you want old piece of cheese I found or a dead rat?

(This is just a proddodge.)

[BBmolla]

Sixth Sense is insanely good btw, better than a doctor.

[Gentlemen Bastards]

Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 -

Tazaro

Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 -
Banker: Checks to see how much money someone has. x2 -
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 --

Salamance

Night-kill -

StefanB

MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)-
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) -
Follower: Tracker. x2 -

Voidedmafia

Stalker: Watcher -

Gentlemen Bastards

Also everyone that isn't on the list

at all

should be mass-investing.

[PeregrineV]

Pere, you should have claimed with these earlier, also oracle isn't up for auction tomorrow night?

No point to claiming earlier, not indicative of alignment, and I didn't have the auctions yet.

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We're filling this out today. Would have been better if Stefan didn't blatantly state he had full-funds and would be going for NK but at this point there's nothing to do about it. Once this list is complete

no one

other than the person whose name is next to the item should be bidding on the item.

Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 -
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 -
Banker: Checks to see how much money someone has. x2 -
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 --
Night-kill -

StefanB

MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)-
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) -
Follower: Tracker. x2 -
Stalker: Watcher -

Gentlemen Bastards

Banker is not just one person

Someone should also advertise cop every night so it always shows up from now on. Last game once advertised you couldn't do it again, but I don't see that restriction here.

[PeregrineV]

Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 -

Tazaro

Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 -
Banker: Checks to see how much money someone has. x2 -
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 --

Salamance

Night-kill -

StefanB

MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)-
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) -
Follower: Tracker. x2 -

Voidedmafia

Stalker: Watcher -

Gentlemen Bastards

Also everyone that isn't on the list

at all

should be mass-investing.

We also need townish people to buy the scum abilities, so scum doesn't get them.

[Gentlemen Bastards]

Pere, the difference in advertising isn't 'unlimited' just that losing advertising bids funds carry over to the next night:

Once an ability has won an Advertising auction, it cannot be advertised for the rest of the game.

And if we have two people on Banker would that work then?

[D3f3nd3r]

Second half of Rule 4 under Advertisement says that something advertised once can't be advertised again. I saw that this was there before Gentlemen's post.

Stefan, I don't see why you really want the NK.

[StefanB]

Defender:

I want the nightkill out of scum hands. And well it is the most fun of the scumabilitys.
Nethertheless I could bind on somethink other if needed. That was a sugestion and a start to organise.

Or was the question, why we want the kill for town?

[PeregrineV]

Pere, the difference in advertising isn't 'unlimited' just that losing advertising bids funds carry over to the next night:

Once an ability has won an Advertising auction, it cannot be advertised for the rest of the game.

And if we have two people on Banker would that work then?

Ah well, then we should at least advertise town roles for the next night.

[Eidolon]

OMFGGGGGGGG

will this thread ever end!!!! i keep reading and reading and reading and i still have... 10 pages to go. holy sh!t. are we close to a lynch yet? we've got to be close.

where to begin?

Well let's start with my scummy list: defender, voided, guille, tazaro.

I'm pretty sure one of the people pushing on MOI was probably bussing. The case just seemed to come up too easily for a more experienced player like MOI. one of those people pushing him had to have KNOWN he was scum. Prob not stefanb but one of the others. i'll get back to that later.

btw i think it's perfectly possible that molla is a sk. miller vig is just too convenient. but i like that he's killing for town, so we should prob keep him around for a while at least.

not really sure whats going on with the night action stuff but out of that list that GB posted, i'd prefer tracker, could do banker too i guess. I probably will have to read everything regarding setup more clearly before picking my night action though, missed night 0.

I won't really get too in depth with my reads unless asked, pretty sure were near a lynch so i'd rather hold out until tomorrow.

[guille2015]

Stephan is the one I would trust the most with the night kill. If he maxed out his investment, It would make it prohibitively expensive for mafia to buy it. We can also use it in the event that we have two suspicious players on the day. We lynch one and vig the other.

I'm fine with investing my money.

[D3f3nd3r]

The first part.

If I survive, I'd probably put Cop out for advertising. How much should I say I want to pay for the ad?

[Salamence20]

You aren't living

[Seanald]

Since there is no oracle, would you guys want me to advertise for something?

[StefanB]

Advertising should be either on cop or oracle, I am okay with Seanald advertising.

[Voidedmafia]

[quote="In post 689, Eidolon"

where to begin?

Well let's start with my scummy list: defender, voided, guille, tazaro.[/quote]
You can start by explaining all of these. Especially the three that aren't defender.

not really sure whats going on with the night action stuff but out of that list that GB posted, i'd prefer tracker, could do banker too i guess. I probably will have to read everything regarding setup more clearly before picking my night action though, missed night 0.

I don't feel safe giving you anything, to be honest. Maybe one of the less useful roles that wouldn't be bad in scum's hands at the least.

I won't really get too in depth with my reads unless asked, pretty sure were near a lynch so i'd rather hold out until tomorrow.

Kindly explain now.

[SlumberPartyBois]

HERE ARE THE PEOPLE I WANT TO TRANSFER THEIR MONEY TO OTHER PLAYERS:

• ELMO
  GREYICE
  GUILLE
  VOIDEDMAFIA
  PITTY
  EIDOLIN
  PHILAMMON
  SEANALD
  

If I did not list you, you are a town read (other than Defender who is dying).

We can force players that are not town reads to transfer their money. If they don't it's a scumclaim. Sure, scum won't have to transfer everything but they will have to transfer the amount that they would have as town, which fucks them over. THIS IS HOW WE BREAK THIS GAME. IF ALL NON-TOWN READS AGREE TO THIS, EVEN IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY TOWN, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE GROUP, WE WIN.

If I did not list you you are a town read of mine. This includes:

• BBmolla (at least he's not scum)
  Mehdi
  Stefan
  Peregrine
  Tazaro
  greygnarl
  Tammy
  Salamence
  Gentlemen Bastards

Here are the specific transfers I advise:

• Elmo transfers to Mehdi
  GreyICE transfers to Stefan
  Guille transfers to Peregrine
  VM transfers to Tazaro
  Pitty transfers to greygnarl
  Eidolin transfers to Tammy
  Philammon transfers to Salamence
  Seanald transfers to Gentlemen Bastards

Why should we do it this way:

• This way we can specifically track each player and how much they are transfering. Each player that is transfering will state how much money they currently have. They then transfer at night to their designated player. The next day the townread confirms or denies that the transaction occurred. We are:
  
  1) Then depleting money from scum
  2) Forcing scum reads to transfer at night which prevents them from bidding or investing since you can only do one thing a night
  
  This will completely fuck over scum and God forbid one of my townreads is scum chances are the majority of my reads are right and at least a few scum at worst will be bound to do something that fucks them over and helps town.
  

THOUGHTS?

[SlumberPartyBois]

CHANGE

Pitty transfers to greygnarl

TO

pitty transfers to SlumberPartyBois

NO OFFENSE GREYGNARL

[Eidolon]

Kindly explain now.

there's no point in broadcasting my thoughts to scum if we're about to lynch someone and i can focus better on pushing them tomorrow when i'm fully caught up.

as far as not getting any night actions, i'll listen to what town suggests. I know i haven't been around much to prove my towniness, it'll be apparent soon enough, but i'll take considerations from those that i have a solid town read on or what town decides as a whole. i might just invest.

PEDIT: hmm, i wouldn't be totally against transferring to tammy, i have a town read on her, but i'd rather use it on my own or invest. O.o anyways your plan isn't perfect because no offense but your scumdar certainly isn't fullproof. i think we should only be transferring to top, solid town reads. (which would for me really only be mehdi & stefan)

[PeregrineV]

@Slumber- It sounds like it should work. Having half the players confirm their amounts, and banker ability can help us determine how much extra money scum has.