Marketplace Mafia II - Game Over

[greygnarl]

Voided is back!

[SlumberPartyBois]

I TOLD YOU ALL VOIDED WAS MAFIA BUT NOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Salamence20]

Ok, I know what is going on.

If that list isnt done by tomorrow, you need to hammer.

[SlumberPartyBois]

Yep, I'm willing to let one more day go but after that it's PLs of elmo and voided for the next two days

[Mehdi2277]

The bid list is forgetting who will pay to advertise cop. I've said all I need so once the list is finished and voided/elmo have claimed money hammer away.

[Tammy]

Okay this is going to be brief. I'm sick as hell and going back to bed.

I agree with the plan. I have $91, please don't make me do math right now my head is pounding.

I don't care what role I get tonight, so dabois and dagentlemen, just put me down for whatever and please post what I'm supposed to do if you guys lynch before tomorrow afternoon. If I'm not supposed to bid and just invest just tell me that too.

It'd be nice defender if you actually pointed out what scum team was that was pushing your lynch.

I'd put my vote back, but that would him back at L-1, and I think there's enough around to vote him if necessary. If you need me to vote, just post that too and if I wake up again I'll vote.

[Voidedmafia]

VOIDEDMAFIA

I thought I was buying stuff, not transferring money?

Also we're transfering money onto scum, guaranteed.

It would be a bit of a tall order to think that we'd be giving our funds to all town, true. However, I'd be pretty sure that at most there'd be 3 scum getting money. If Slumber is scum then its likely that one (or both, assuming at least 2-3 and his team is the one that isn't MoI's) is scattered in there, but even so (or even if the other team has one of theirs in there), most of the money is still flowing from town to town.

Kindly explain now.

there's no point in broadcasting my thoughts to scum if we're about to lynch someone and i can focus better on pushing them tomorrow when i'm fully caught up.

What're you worried about, anyways?

oh sh!t.

ummmmmm. i guess i should mention this O.o

i just looked at my role pm more carefully. i cannot transfer invest or advertise.

So you're not town? That's good to know.

SK role PM last game:

Outside the System: You

may not use the Invest action (see Section IV), and you may not spend money on Advertising

(see Section V).
The Fruits of Their Labor: If the Day has an auction from Advertising (see Section V),

you will receive one usage of that ability automatically

. You may still win that auction as normal.

So she claimed SK? Cool.

do you really expect it to be exactly the same as last game?

that would be quite dull. i bet the mod really want the town to outguess him...

It'd still probably be pretty similar. I wouldn't be surprised at all.

The reason we need 1 for 1 is because say 1 player receives funds from two people. The two people have $100 and $150. According to the 95% rule, the player receiving should get about $240. Let's say they only receive $220. That means one of the players giving was fucking with them OR the person receiving is lying. Then we have to possibly go through TWO mislynches to find the scum. It leads to too much uncertainty. We need 1 person giving to 1 other person at a time.

This makes tons of sense.

SCUM (Top = most scummy)

• 1) Eidolin
  2) Seanald
  3) Guille
  4) Phillamon
  5) Elmo
  6) VoidedMafia
  7) GreyICE
  8) Pitty

I don't remember when you actually explained (or alluded to reasons as to) why I'm scum. When did that even pop up, anyways, because the first instance where you had a hint of a scumread on me was when you wanted me vigged.

Also we're transfering money onto scum, guaranteed.

It'd be unlikely that Slumber's potential parter(s) would be on the recieving end; that'd be a bit too conspicuous. If his team is the one with 3 people (and MoI wasn't on his team), I'd agree that at least one partner was getting money, but even so the amount of town transferring to town receiving is still high enough that that's not really a concern right now.

Waiiiiit I thought you had a scumread on me?

Where in his post does he indicate a read on you? Why are you acting like his ideas there in any way correlate to his read on you?

just to be clear i don't get any night killing abilities, even if it's advertised.

Die.

Just to be clear, I am going to push VEHEMENTLY for GreyICE's lynch tomorrow.

VERY VERY vehemently.

Paranoia about your plan =/= scum, certainly not with the way he's going about it. His skepticism and questions related to it feels rather natural (even if his early derision was a little bit too much than I'd like).

If you're calling him scum for other reasons then I wouldn't mind hearing them.

Mehdi don't do peoples math for them, your eliminating a way for scum to get caught.

How would that be eliminating a way for scum to get caught? If anything, if how much they're supposed to transfer is clearly stated out, then if that price isn't met then that's a clear way of outting scum.

im saying if you know the math for what everyone should transfer, and tomorrow someone claims what they got and it ended up being more or even less than what should of been transfered you'll then know they were lieing.

Then the transferer was lying and is caught scum?

Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 -

Tazaro

Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 -

Gentlemen Bastards

Banker: Checks to see how much money someone has. x2 -
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 --

Salamance

Night-kill -

StefanB

MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)-
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) -
Follower: Tracker. x2 -
Stalker: Watcher -

Gentlemen Bastards

Wasn't I getting tracker?

Voided and Elmo post amounts. If they post anywhere else without posting here immediately then they get lynched tomorrow.

Dude, shut the fucking hell up. TWICE I've had to crawl through 5+ pages IN A ROW because you guys get post-crazy while I'm at work. Don't even think about pulling this shit on me.

If you're town then give reads on everybody. You're dying regardless though.

Also Voided is looking scummy as hell for lurking the forum and then leaving, without telling his amount. He's basically assuring the loss of efficiency

pedit Pitty thinks like me!

I"M FUCKING BUSY, OKAY?!

Anyone trying to call a lynch on me because A.) I'm having to trawl through 8 pages to get caught up and/or B.) I was doing other things as well because this thread totally has to be the center of my attention just need to fuck off. Thank you.

Now, if someone could explain when I got knocked off of buying Follower that'd be cool because I ain't seeing it.

[Voidedmafia]

(response to 2nd-to-last quote is referring to the fact I had to do this yesterday/day before that)

[Gentlemen Bastards]

Voided, you're no longer bidding on tracker because you'll be transferring money. Speaking of which you need to claim how much you have.

[Mehdi2277]

Since you're transferring all your money to Peregine. Right now we're pretty much trying to transfer all money to strongest town reads and only let them bid (strongest town reads being more averaged together somewhat).

You need to claim how much money you have (it's one of the two things we need before we can end this day). Elmo needs to claim money as well while we need two people who get money to finish this list:

Advertiser for Cop: Advertises cop -
Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 - Tazaro
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 - Gentlemen Bastards
Banker: Checks to see how much money someone has. x2 -
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 -- Salamance
Night-kill - StefanB
MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)- Tammy
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) - Greygnarl
Follower: Tracker. x2 - Bois
Stalker: Watcher - Gentlemen Bastards

[MattP]

PEREGRINE ADVERTISES COP

SCREW BANKER

[SlumberPartyBois]

PEREGRINE ADVERTISES COP

SCREW BANKER

[Mehdi2277]

K, the final list is done (if no one has any complaints right now then it's final and dealt with). Voided/elmo money claims, then hammer defender.

Advertiser for Cop: Advertises cop - Peregine
Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 - Tazaro
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 - Gentlemen Bastards
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 -- Salamance
Night-kill - StefanB
MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)- Tammy
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) - Greygnarl
Follower: Tracker. x2 - Bois
Stalker: Watcher - Gentlemen Bastards

[Voidedmafia]

Voided, you're no longer bidding on tracker because you'll be transferring money. Speaking of which you need to claim how much you have.

And I want to know when that change happened.

[Gentlemen Bastards]

It happened when The Bois put forward the proposal that we have people transfer money so that hopefully scums funds get drained in the process meaning we can win more auctions in the future. Plus it helps confirm how much money everyone currently has and will stop mafia bidding too highly tonight.

[MattP]

You read the thread, why are you so confused about the plan?

[SlumberPartyBois]

You read the thread, why are you so confused about the plan?

I'm really bad at this

[SlumberPartyBois]

the worst.

[SlumberPartyBois]

when i hydrad with katsuki he had less hydra slips than you. fucking think about that man.

[Gentlemen Bastards]

Matt, change the background colour on one of the accounts. Ever since I've done that I haven't had an issue when it comes to posting on the right account.

[SlumberPartyBois]

oh hell no do not freaking do that mister.

do not try and stir up trouble for me gentleman ill freakin b so mad @ u

[Seanald]

when voided posted, all i heard was Blah blah blah parrot parrot parrot, im posting but I didnt really read everything, what do i do? blah blah

[Salamence20]

I'm sick of this so Im stating it.

Everyone that is stalling is trying to make us lose the efficiency bonus. If defender is truely scum (as I believe), Elmo, Voided, Ice, and Seanald must die.

[Voidedmafia]

It happened when The Bois put forward the proposal that we have people transfer money so that hopefully scums funds get drained in the process meaning we can win more auctions in the future. Plus it helps confirm how much money everyone currently has and will stop mafia bidding too highly tonight.

Mafia can still attempt to drive the price up. Even if they lose 10% of what they bid, if they can get the NK to triple-digits or close to the $200s that's still a victory for them even if they don't get the NK as Stefan might then be left with almost nothing (assuming he'll only have near to $250 by tonight, anways). Of course, if they do win it might be a pyrrhic victory, but still.

Slumber's lack of (or inability to present) reasons for why I'm a scumread does not make me eager to want to be part of his plan. I have no qualms with the plan itself (and would probably embrace this with open arms if it came from, say, yourself, GB), but there's a distinct lack of flow between "VM buys Follower" to "VM transfers money" that either I'm not getting or I missed, and I don't want to put myself in the transfer pool when I should be in the buying pool until this gets cleared up for me.

I will claim how much money I have as of now, though: $96.

P-EDIT: Oh, shut up, Sala. Losing $5 won't kill you.

Also, wrong, Seanald.

[SlumberPartyBois]

matt and i think you are scum. this plan calls for town reads to be recipients of cash from nontown reads. no one who has you as a strong town read has stepped up to say that you are a better recipient than the others that have been proposed as recipients. dont see the issue here? and who cares if mafia drive the price up? if we have to pay in the $200s to take the nk its worth it and it will give us some ideas of who the scum who bid it up that high is. the point with this plan is that we are keeping track of the flow of money and making people accountable for it while stockpiling it on the most likely town players in the game.