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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:09 pm

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I'll put it this way, fellow who posted two minutes after me. I'm never one to talk re: skill level, but the bit about Tierce's breaking the voting circle being a townread is bush league. The only motivation I can see for it is not knowing who Tierce is and thinking it would get Tierce to leave you alone.

As for Konowa, I don't fully comprehend the paranoia argument, but it smells like you're trying to bait people into chainsawing. I misread the bit about Konowa not asking for info as you wanting him to say more, my bad on that front.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:26 pm

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Yeah, that might be a legitimate accusation if I
hadn't
played with Tierce before. But I did. I
know
for a fact that buddying her isn't going to do me any good or make her view me any more favorably, and might even get me lynched. I legitimately had an initial townread on her based on those posts.

Here is the argument about Paranoia:

- Tierce says Konowa is town.
- I question the read to figure out her motivation.
- Konowa doesn't like it.
- I explain to him that I am not questioning whether he was town but rather questioning whether Tierce had a legit townread.
- He doesn't see town motivation in my questioning.

This doesn't make sense from a town-Konowa perspective, because as town, you always have to question reads, poke and prod at players and scumhunt. Scum aren't going to present themselves on a plate. We need to find scum. Questioning player's positions, challenging them, testing reactions, that is how we can spot scum. It doesn't make sense for Konowa to find it scummy.

Let's look at scum motivation. Scum-Konowa could feel threatened that I would persuade Tierce to change her mind. This leads him to pre-emptively FOS me in order to discourage that. That is where the paranoia is. Why bother someone who is scumhunting if you are town? Let them do it and see what happens.

To draw an analogy, I did have a lingering suspicion that Empire was scum having a townread on me, and felt I needed to explore it further. Why isn't Konowa wary of the same thing and why doesn't he feel the need to figure out Tierce's affiliation? Why is he actively discouraging other people from scumhunting. That's the reason I find Konowa scummy.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:32 pm

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Where the hell is Xalxe? Is he hoping to lurk to a win here?

I'll look for more scum when I can focus better.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:32 am

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Vote Count V:
Time passes
:right: Xalxe (L-3) ~ saulres, Konowa
:right: Nobody Special (L-3) ~ Tierce, Empire
:right: F-16_Fighting_Falcon (L-3) ~ Xalxe, Shmugen
Shmugen (L-4) ~ Shamrock
Tierce (L-4) ~ Nobody Special
Konowa (L-4) ~ F-16_Fighting_Falcon

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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:47 am

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In post 127, saulres wrote:Where the hell is Xalxe? Is he hoping to lurk to a win here?

I'll look for more scum when I can focus better.


You are one who is lurking. You have 6 posts, the lowest in the game. You are calling out the person with the second lowest number of posts.

None of your posts have any good content.

1) Random vote
2) "
NS, how about playing this game, instead of some hypothetical bastard game
?" - Just fluff, no reads.
3) Apologies for lack of particiapation, calls out other lurkers.
4) Argues with Xalxe about whether it is a bastard game. Why argue such irrelevant things. I can think of a reason that Xalxe and you are both scum and distancing yourself from each other. "
Pot meet Kettle
," you say to Xalxe. Xalxe would probably respond Kettle, meet Pot - because it is true. You are accusing each other of lurking while both of you are lurking. Comments on Tierce's rage. (This part is at least remotely pro-town.
5) Explains Tierce's rage is not alignment null.
6) Xalxe is lurking! Scum!

I really want to vote you at this point especially since a part of my gut is saying Konowa is prob town. But the facts point to Konowa for now and I'll wait for his response to hear his perspective of his actions.

I am leaning toward Xalxe/Saulres scumteam right now.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:48 am

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Oh, I should do this:

unvote

Vote: sualres
....what?



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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:32 am

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Xalxe has been prodded.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:32 pm

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In post 129, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I am leaning toward Xalxe/Saulres scumteam right now.

Then why are you voting Konowa?
....what?



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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:39 pm

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Partly because I haven't ruled him out and partly because I want to hear his perspective and an explanation before moving on if it is legit.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:42 pm

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UNVOTE: Nobody Special
VOTE: F-16_Fighting_Falcon

Hi there.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:44 pm

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Hi :D
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:46 pm

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Care to explain your vote?
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:47 pm

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Not really!
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:50 pm

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Okay then... and there was me hoping to get into a 10-page long argument to take my mind off of homework. :wink:
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:02 pm

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UNVOTE: Konowa
VOTE: Tierce x3

@ Mod, I am using my triple vote on Tierce.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:14 pm

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Sadly for you, kiddo, I know things about balance and I know things about Vi, and it's pretty damn obvious you wouldn't have a triple vote in a micro, much less a triple vote that doesn't have speshul wording because Vi is Vi~ Go back to your homework.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:18 pm

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Any reason why you are being
this
passive in this game?
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:24 pm

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And please stop calling me "kiddo" or "kid," because I am not. I was talking about HW for my college classes.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:26 pm

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What do you expect the reason to be? "There are crocodiles on my balcony, sorry, my flat is turning into Animal Planet"?

I don't have to turn everything into a wall fight. In fact, I have no interest in it. This is not the Tierce & F-16_Fighting_Falcon Show.


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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:32 pm

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That's okay, don't worry about it.

My point is more towards why you are not scumhunting at all. You first vote NS, then you post next to nothing of substance. Then you vote me after NS posts and I FOS Xalxe and Saulres and you provide no reasoning for it.

Why aren't you scumhunting or trying to figure out anybody's affiliation? Or being pro-active and posting analysis of the game. You haven't said anything about Saulres and Xalxe as well. I guess one interpretation could be that you are scum with Xalxe/Saulres and your vote as a chainsaw defence of Xalxe/Saulres if one of them is scum.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:36 pm

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Because being cryptic and unpredictable is fun. ^_^
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:51 pm

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...Hold on a minute. Good news on the horizon!

UNVOTE: F-16_Fighting_Falcon
VOTE: Nobody Special

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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:55 pm

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Wow, that's actually imrpessive that you would post that within 4 minutes of my checking the thread.

Yes? Can I help you?
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:58 pm

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I'm awesome like that.

Who are Shmugen's buddies?
And on a different flavor--where have you been and why is the 'where' not 'here'?
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:03 pm

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I don't know. I think saulres is kind of scummy for a really stupid push on Xalxe -- but I'm actually quite drunk right now, and you should be impressed with me for correcting all the typos I made except for "imrpessive". I haven't actually looked at anyone in particular yet to determine who is scumbuddies and such, and that's sort of premature on D1, isn't it.

What is "where"?
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