NY 159: RUST game over

[Cheery Dog]

MY role pm definitely states I'm a town 1-shot gunsmith.
I didn't choose what my role was.

[roflcopter]

MY role pm definitely states I'm a town 1-shot gunsmith.
I didn't choose what my role was.

lol scum answer

[Cheery Dog]

and as town (which according to you I'm not* I'm meant to go
"ohh wait my role pm actually says I';m a vt and a big fat liar"?

The only other defence of my role I have is that fact I used it to clear Angry.

[DrippingGoofball]

Did Rob13 claim before, or after rofl?

[Cheery Dog]

Rob claimed first.

Spoiler: here

I am Jack-of-all-Trades. One-shot cop, one-shot vig. One-shot cop is used already on Tazaro, clearing him. One-shot vig will be used tonight to prevent me dying without using it. Because of my role, I doubt there is another vig. I don't see how it would balance. I think an SK is likely.

[Cheery Dog]

Spoiler: and for reference

because i am a jack of all trades and one of my abilities is

1-shot bulletproof

[Rob14]

I have other things to say on the topic of Cheery, but let me pose this question first: Why did you use your gunsmith on AP?

[Cheery Dog]

I used it on him because out of the people I felt weren't likely to be vigged, he was at that stage reading the most scummy to me.
As both you and Taz claimed to have vig shots going into night 2, I wasn't going to check up on any of your likely targets, which I felt were either the remaining miller or one of the lurkers.

Had I known you weren't actually going to vig anyone that night and that tax was actually only a 1-shot vig, I would have used it on Malp, and same with why I never used it night one.

Day two I softclaimed with this question, trying to see how likely we were to have them vigged, and since the only reaction I got was from you calling any gunsmith an idiot for not doing so night 1, I discounted keeping the shot to use on a miller if they were still alive during night 3 when all the vig shots would have been used.

I'm still good with lynching one of the

millers

today, or do they need investigated by a gunsmith power if we have one?

I think the choice of Angry was also influenced by rofl's readlist at the end of day 2.

[TheReverend]

Hi goofball.

I'm kind of with you on the cheery thing, in that I've had doubts about his claim. What are your thoughts on darthe? That's who I think is our most likely.

[AngryPidgeon]

How can the town power really be

1x Vig
Joat (1BP, 1RB)
joat(1 Vig, 1 Cop)
Doctor
Millerx2

Vs

Doctor
Joat (Track/RB)

Like..Thats MAYBE balanced without the millers. With the millers its horribly scum sided.

[Rob14]

Keep in mind CKD could have had different powers than what he told us, just for the record. Scum lie.

[malpascp]

So if I flip miller that means some PR is claiming VT????

[DrippingGoofball]

Darthe is scum.

[4nxi3ty]

malpascp

(3)

- ProHawk, Paid Pyro, Cheery Dog

Darthe

(1) - TheReverend

TheReverend

(1) - AngryPidgeon

Cheery Dog

(2) - DrippingGoofball, roflcopter

Not Voting

(3) - malpascp, Darthe, Rob13

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2012-11-14 12:43:07)

[DrippingGoofball]

How can the town power really be

1x Vig
Joat (1BP, 1RB)
joat(1 Vig, 1 Cop)
Doctor
Millerx2

Vs

Doctor
Joat (Track/RB)

Like..Thats MAYBE balanced without the millers. With the millers its horribly scum sided.

Mafia Doctor is super-lame with 2 vig shots only, and no other killing faction.

I can see 2 millers giving the scum a bit of an edge.

[Rob14]

Reasoning on Darthe, please. I agree, but would like to see how you reached that conclusion.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hi iso is really lazy.

[Darthe]

Lazy, perhaps. Mafia, no.

[Rob14]

Lazy, perhaps. Mafia, no.

Actually, in my experience, lazy = scum or noobtown. In the past, you've claimed to have experience, so if you admit that you've been playing lazily in this game, I'm leaning scum (not that I wasn't already leaning that way).

[Darthe]

By all means, as I have said before I shouldn't probably be allowed to WIFOM late game because of some poor plays in the early game. If you truly think I warrant a vote then place it and read my flip. I don't see mafia winning regardless.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ugh this game. I hate having only 1 scum left. My radar just kind of goes everywhere. I'll put some serious effort in before the end of the weekend. Plz no hammers before then.

[malpascp]

So if I flip miller that means some PR is claiming VT????

Just to clarify, everyone seems to agree that if all claims are true then this setup is very scum-sided. We know all scum roles that fliped must be real (duuh), so that means town must be more powerfull than it seems. Thoughts on this?

[Rob14]

So if I flip miller that means some PR is claiming VT????

Just to clarify, everyone seems to agree that if all claims are true then this setup is very scum-sided. We know all scum roles that flipped must be real (duh), so that means town must be more powerful than it seems. Thoughts on this?

I think that we have one of two things happening here.

1) A PR is lying about being a VT. If so, you're stupid. Claim correctly.
2) If the above isn't the case, then either a VT, mal, or cheery is scum due to them having the least powerful roles. Possibly also rofl.

I don't think this role analysis will get us that far, to be honest. Let's focus on gameplay.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ugh this game. I hate having only 1 scum left.

How do we know there's only one scum left?

[AngryPidgeon]

Because night kills show a distinct lack of an SK. And if there are 5 people on the scumteam, ESPECIALLY given the lack of town power, then this game is rigged to the point I wouldn't even count it on my record.