Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style - Game Over!

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Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style - Game Over!

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:45 pm

Post by UberNinja »

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Spoiler: Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style – Pre-Game Flavor
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You have all been gathered here today for a very special reason. There is treachery afoot!

Just after having taken the world by storm with his hit single "Gangnam Style", the beloved Korean pop singer PSY was found dead in his vacation home. He was the victim of a gruesome murder. Local authorities found a message written in his blood scrawled across the wall next to his lifeless body:


OPPAN THIS!


There were no fingerprints found at the scene, but multiple sets of boot prints were found around the premises, presumably scouting entrances to the home. The Korean NPA has ascertained that even though one of the sets of prints was a close match to PSY's own moon boots, that this was undoubtedly not the work of a serial killer; a security camera at a nearby gas station distinctly observed two figures with obscured faces in an unmarked van (with a license plate holder reading 그 버튼남자들) driving towards the PSY estate at fourteen minutes before the time of death. The same van was observed driving recklessly away from the scene of the crime seventeen minutes after its first appearance.

There appeared to be signs of a struggle. The subject suffered multiple blunt force trauma attacks, had multiple lacerations, and several bullet wounds were apparent.



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PSY, Beloved Prince of K-Pop has been murdered pre-game!



Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to track down the bastards who did it! The prevailing rumors are that certain J-Pop stars became jealous of PSY's almost overnight success, and dispatched a pair of hit men to do their dirty work. Other rumors insist many different scenarios: that PSY forgot to pay off some Chinese triads who connected him with the right people for him to gain success; that certain Vietnamese gangs took offense to the mass commercialization of the word "Gangnam", as it bore too much resemblance to the "Gangs in 'Nam" moniker used for the annual violent crime expos which pre-dated PSY's use of the term in his song. The rest are even sillier than that, and don't bear mentioning.

The only thing that is for sure is that two of you need to be hunted down and brought to justice. And you only have a few days to accomplish this!

Good luck! ... You are all going to need it.

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Spoiler: Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style – Endgame Player List
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Still Dancin' Along to PSY's Music

  • SB
  • Toroid
  • Ottofar
  • Cybertronix
  • Messiah (SE)
  • qwints (IC)

Bit the Dust in Gangnam Style!

  • Lurker,
Mafia Role Cop
, was lynched on Day 1.
[*]MaverickMaestro (SE),
Vanilla Townie
, was killed on Night 1.
[*]RedRabbit,
Mafia Goon
, was lynched on Day 2.[/list]
Waiting in Line Outside the Club

  • PiggyGal15
  • Aj the Epic
  • Nekoko
  • JasonWazza
  • Malakittens
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Spoiler: Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style – Endgame Status Report
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Mafia Gangnam Style has ended with a
Town Win
!
Deadline:
There is nothing left to do but wait for PSY's return! :D


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Spoiler: Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style – Rules and Regulations
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  1. Obey all site wide rules. Those can be found here.
  2. Be civil, and play to win! This is supposed to be fun!
  3. Use common sense. Note: I will be the judge of this.
  4. Do not quote any private messages from the mod.
  5. Do not talk about this game outside of the game thread.
  6. Days will last 3 real weeks, Nights will last 3 real days.
  7. Voting requires a majority. Unvoting is not necessary.
  8. No lynch can occur by majority rule or if deadline hits.
  9. Do not post at all after you are dead in this game.
  10. Do not edit or delete any posts if you have that ability.
  11. If you're scum, don't out yourself or your scum partners.
  12. All text posted should be easily readable by everyone.
  13. 72 hours without posting = prod; 3 prods = replacement.
  14. Pretending to break a rule is the same as breaking it.
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Spoiler: Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style – Setup Information
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This game uses the setup, an experimental setup designed to fix balance issues in previous Newbie setups. This is a semi-open setup, meaning that there are several options for what this setup could be, but the options are known to you. As with every Newbie game, random.org was used to determine both setup and role distribution.

There are six possible options for this setup:

  • 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 5 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop, Doctor.
  • 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 5 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop, Jailkeeper.
  • 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 5 Vanilla Townies, Doctor, Jailkeeper.
  • 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop.
  • 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Jailkeeper.
  • 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Doctor.


The possible Role PMs received are as follows:

VT Role PM wrote:
Welcome to
Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style!


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Role/Abilities
:
You are a
Vanilla Townie
. You have no powers other than your voice and your vote.

Win Condition
:
You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Townie is left alive.

Confirmations
:
To confirm your role, simply reply to this PM with the phrase
/confirm - Vanilla Townie
.

Where do I go
?
Here is the game thread where you will be playing
Mafia Gangnam Style!
:)

Good luck! and have fun!
Sane Cop Role PM wrote:
Welcome to
Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style!


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Role/Abilities
:
You are a
Sane Cop
. Each night, you may PM me with the name of the player you wish to
Investigate
. If you live through the night, you will receive your investigation result, which will be either "
Innocent
" or "
Guilty
".

Win Condition
:
You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Townie is left alive.

Confirmations
:
To confirm your role, simply reply to this PM with the phrase
/confirm - Sane Cop
.

Where do I go
?
Here is the game thread where you will be playing
Mafia Gangnam Style!
:)

Good luck! and have fun!
Jailkeeper Role PM wrote:
Welcome to
Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style!


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Role/Abilities
:
You are the
Jailkeeper
. Each night, you may PM me with the name of the player you wish to
Jail
. Your target will not be able to be killed that night. Your target will also not be able to perform any special night actions which it may or may not may have. You may
not
target yourself with this ability.

Win Condition
:
You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Townie is left alive.

Confirmations
:
To confirm your role, simply reply to this PM with the phrase
/confirm - Jailkeeper
.

Where do I go
?
Here is the game thread where you will be playing
Mafia Gangnam Style!
:)

Good luck! and have fun!
Doctor Role PM wrote:
Welcome to
Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style!


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Role/Abilities
:
You are a
Doctor
. Each night, you may PM me with the name of the player you wish to
Protect
. They will live through the night. You may
not
target yourself for protection.

Win Condition
:
You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Townie is left alive.

Confirmations
:
To confirm your role, simply reply to this PM with the phrase
/confirm - Doctor
.

Where do I go
?
Here is the game thread where you will be playing
Mafia Gangnam Style!
:)

Good luck! and have fun!
Mafia Goon Role PM wrote:
Welcome to
Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style!


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Role/Abilities
:
You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Your team has a factional night killing ability. Each night, you
or
your partner may PM me with the name of the player you wish to
Kill
. You must specify which of you will be performing the kill.

Communication
:
You and your partner,
Player Name
(
Mafia Role Cop
) may speak at
night
in your .

Win Condition
:
You win when only mafia players remain, or nothing can stop the same, and at least one of you are still alive.

Confirmations
:
To confirm your role, simply reply to this PM with the phrase
/confirm - Mafia Goon
.

Where do I go
?
Here is the game thread where you will be playing
Mafia Gangnam Style!
:)

Good luck! and have fun!
Mafia Role Cop Role PM wrote:
Welcome to
Newbie 1299: Mafia Gangnam Style!


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Role/Abilities
:
You are the
Mafia Role Cop
.

Your team has a factional night killing ability. Each night, you
or
your partner may PM me with the name of the player you wish to
Kill
. You must specify which of you will be performing the kill.

Additionally, each night, you may PM me with the name of the player you wish to
Role Cop
. At the end of the night, you will receive your investigation result, which may be either "Vanilla Townie", "Doctor", "Jailkeeper", or "Sane Cop".

You
may
perform the night kill
and
your rolecop ability on the same night, if you wish.

Communication
:
You and your partner,
Player Name
(
Mafia Goon
) may speak at
night
in your .

Win Condition
:
You win when only mafia players remain, or nothing can stop the same, and at least one of you are still alive.

Confirmations
:
To confirm your role, simply reply to this PM with the phrase
/confirm - Mafia Role Cop
.

Where do I go
?
Here is the game thread where you will be playing
Mafia Gangnam Style!
:)

Good luck! and have fun!
.

Role PMs are out! When everyone has /confirmed by PM, the game will begin!
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:37 pm

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Sorry about the wait, everyone.

jatomicbomb has failed to confirm, and is replaced by Cybertronix, who requested beforehand to replace anyone who failed to confirm. Grump (SE) has also failed to confirm. Looking for a replacement.

The game will begin in the mean time, as soon as Cybertronix confirms.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:48 am

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Cybertronix has confirmed, and Messiah replaces Grump!

Day 1 begins!
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:21 am

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It started \o/

VOTE: Toroid

Yo.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:01 am

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Random Lynch time, no real reason.

VTL CYBERTRONIX
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:37 am

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Hello everyone, this is your IC speaking. While I'm a player who will be playing to my win condition, I am also a resource to help you learn how mafia is played here. I will answer anyone's questions about how the game is played, give copious amounts of advice, and evaluate everyone's play at the end.

First things first:
1) Always read your pm closely
2) Always read the mod's rules
3) Always understand what set-up you're playing. (We are now playing 2of4)

One of the worst things for town is to have a power role (PR) who doesn't understand how their role works. Town has at least one of 3 different PRs. You can read about those pr's on the wiki:

1)Doctor
2)Sane Cop
3)Jailkeeper

Scum have a Role Cop.

While you're generally allowed to play however you want within the site rules and game's specific rules, expect to be attacked if you violate one of the generally accepted principles of town play on this site:

1) Don't fake claim PRs

Fake claiming as a PR when you're a VT is likely to get you, and the town player who actually is that PR killed. Here's an example of why: I have enough votes that one more will result in my lynch. I claim that I'm the doctor. People start unvoting me, until the actual doctor says "wait, he's lying." Everyone lynches me, and then the mafia kill the actual doctor that night.

This scenario is a reason scum may want to fake claim a PR when they're about to be lynched. We can discuss the cost/benefit analysis of lynching a claimed PR if that comes up during the game.

2) Don't rolefish

As town, we don't want scum to find out our power roles are because scum will then kill them. So if somebody breadcrumbs their power role by, e.g., starting their first three posts with C...O...P, don't call them out on it. We want our PRs to stay hidden until they think it's worth revealing themselves. A corollary to this is to not claim unless you need to. We don't want a bunch of people volunteering that they're VT early on.

As scum, you want to role fish - but getting caught will get you lynched. Tread carefully.

3) Don't give up

Nothing is more annoying for your team than to see you refuse to try. Remember that you can be die and still win the game. So, if you're about to be mislynched as town, take advantage of the fact that everyone is about to know that you are town and put your current thoughts out there. Never self hammer as town.

Claiming to be scum and revealing the scum team is probably the fastest way to get perma-banned. Don't do it. Self-hammering as scum to cut off discussion is okay if you don't think you have a chance of preventing a lynch, e.g. a cop has claimed a guilty on you.



Finally, mafia is fundamentally a game where an uninformed minority tries to gain enough information to find the informed majority before it's too late. Taking stances on other players and taking chances by actually voting help your fellow townies to figure out who has a hidden motivation. Random voting is normally used to get a game going by making people do something to generate discussion.

VOTE: Cybertronix
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:25 am

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HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY SEXY LADY.
"When you play the game of Mafia, you lynch or you die. There is no middle ground."
Telo in Newbie 1280: "Also learned that you shouldn't delete your role PM. I forgot who I was in this game. When you guys asked me to claim I couldn't because I couldn't remember who I was."
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:36 am

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Vote: MaverickMaestro
, do you have any favourite scum tell, one that would almost alone warrant a lynch on someone

Qwint,
what info is there in just randomly quicklynching someone?

Cybertronix,
which power role would you prefer as town? Why? What about as scum? Why?

RedRabbit,
would you prefer to be scum or town? Why?
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:41 am

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Oh, wait. Scum can't have godfathers in this setup. Hm. Let me revise that question.
Cybertronics
, if a Godfather (shows up as town to inspects) was a role that could be, would you prefer it to role cop? Why?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:44 am

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RVS is over.

vote: MaverickMaestro


All aboard.
It's times like this..
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:46 am

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Ottofar, none. What's the point in asking questions you already know the answer to?
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:51 am

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To stir discussion. But I kinda meant the question as: Why just randomly vote someone, when they can just totally ignore the thing, if there's nothing added?
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:04 am

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Why a random voting stage(RVS)?

Because it pressures players in ways that a random question stage doesn't. Votes are a concrete action with consequences. I can act the exact same way in a random question stage regardless of my alignment. I really don't have any incentive to act differently. Most scum want both to avoid the spotlight and to keep the spotlight off their partner, thus they have an incentive to act differently than town in RVS. RVS will end when someone thinks that another person's "random" vote or other behavior is suspicious enough to warrant discussion.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:20 am

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Hm. That kinda makes sense. On the other hand, would a lynch be likely to happen if they didn't react to the votes in any way?
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:28 am

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In post 4, Lurker wrote:Random Lynch time, no real reason.

VTL CYBERTRONIX


I would check of
UberNinja
would accept this as a vote.

In post 8, Ottofar wrote:Oh, wait. Scum can't have godfathers in this setup. Hm. Let me revise that question.
Cybertronics
, if a Godfather (shows up as town to inspects) was a role that could be, would you prefer it to role cop? Why?


I have no preference in roles. I've only ever played as VT on this board, so I have no opinion on which I would prefer. I think it would be fun to try some sort of PR.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:30 am

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In post 9, Messiah wrote:RVS is over.

vote: MaverickMaestro


All aboard.


I can get with this wagon.

VOTE: MaverickMaestro
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:26 am

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In post 5, qwints wrote:Hello everyone, this is your IC speaking. While I'm a player who will be playing to my win condition, I am also a resource to help you learn how mafia is played here. I will answer anyone's questions about how the game is played, give copious amounts of advice, and evaluate everyone's play at the end.

First things first:
1) Always read your pm closely
2) Always read the mod's rules
3) Always understand what set-up you're playing. (We are now playing 2of4)

One of the worst things for town is to have a power role (PR) who doesn't understand how their role works. Town has at least one of 3 different PRs. You can read about those pr's on the wiki:

1)Doctor
2)Sane Cop
3)Jailkeeper

Scum have a Role Cop.

While you're generally allowed to play however you want within the site rules and game's specific rules, expect to be attacked if you violate one of the generally accepted principles of town play on this site:

1) Don't fake claim PRs

Fake claiming as a PR when you're a VT is likely to get you, and the town player who actually is that PR killed. Here's an example of why: I have enough votes that one more will result in my lynch. I claim that I'm the doctor. People start unvoting me, until the actual doctor says "wait, he's lying." Everyone lynches me, and then the mafia kill the actual doctor that night.

This scenario is a reason scum may want to fake claim a PR when they're about to be lynched. We can discuss the cost/benefit analysis of lynching a claimed PR if that comes up during the game.

2) Don't rolefish

As town, we don't want scum to find out our power roles are because scum will then kill them. So if somebody breadcrumbs their power role by, e.g., starting their first three posts with C...O...P, don't call them out on it. We want our PRs to stay hidden until they think it's worth revealing themselves. A corollary to this is to not claim unless you need to. We don't want a bunch of people volunteering that they're VT early on.

As scum, you want to role fish - but getting caught will get you lynched. Tread carefully.

3) Don't give up

Nothing is more annoying for your team than to see you refuse to try. Remember that you can be die and still win the game. So, if you're about to be mislynched as town, take advantage of the fact that everyone is about to know that you are town and put your current thoughts out there. Never self hammer as town.

Claiming to be scum and revealing the scum team is probably the fastest way to get perma-banned. Don't do it. Self-hammering as scum to cut off discussion is okay if you don't think you have a chance of preventing a lynch, e.g. a cop has claimed a guilty on you.



Finally, mafia is fundamentally a game where an uninformed minority tries to gain enough information to find the informed majority before it's too late. Taking stances on other players and taking chances by actually voting help your fellow townies to figure out who has a hidden motivation. Random voting is normally used to get a game going by making people do something to generate discussion.

VOTE: Cybertronix


No offense, but on that last paragraph, aren't mafia the informed ones who know who their scumbuddies are, and the town a uninformed
MAJORITY
Is trying to find them? Just saying.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:27 am

Post by Lurker »

Also
UNVOTE
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:44 am

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Good point lurker. That should read the uninformed majority trying to fing the informed minority.

@Ottofar, no reaction either is flaking, in which case they're replaced, or a a reaction worth considering.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:37 am

Post by MaverickMaestro »

In post 7, Ottofar wrote:
Vote: MaverickMaestro
, do you have any favourite scum tell, one that would almost alone warrant a lynch on someone


I don't really have one, until someone does something which runs contradictory to how a townsperson would play their game. I don't like lurkers either.
"When you play the game of Mafia, you lynch or you die. There is no middle ground."
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:51 am

Post by Messiah »

MaverickMaestro has now gone out of his way in two posts to expressly deny us any useful information or progress towards our goal. You know what to do.

Would you like to say anything before you die, Maverick?
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:23 am

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He insults my name. VTL MAVERICK
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:47 am

Post by qwints »

I haven't seen VTL before. Presumably it means "vote to lynch." Is it from another site?
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:55 am

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Yes Debate.Org.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:59 am

Post by qwints »

Is there a difference between "voting" versus "voting to lynch"?

There's a standardized format for voting on mafia scum:

Code: Select all

[b]Vote: Player[/b]
or
[vote]Player[/vote]


Other votes may not be counted, depending on the mod. Generally, mods will not allow you to use misunderstandings of whether you voted or not to your advantage.

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