Marketplace Mafia II - Game Over

[Voidedmafia]

5. Voidedmafia

Incredibly unrelentingly townie. Masses of walls,

Did you even read them, by chance?

piled on to MoI's scumslip.

I did?

Plus you forgot to mention that having cop and then having Neighborizer advertised is fucking ridiculous. SEAN IS SCUM. Actually we should vig him because then everybody will pile on Elmo and we get efficiency.

Seanald advertised Neighborizer? When did that happen?

Look, seanald is ONLY dangerous if we cannot garauntee that town is getting the neighborizer AND that either A.) his scumteam gets it or B.) the other scumteam gets it/has it and selects one of his scumteam. If it turns out that we cannot, then go ahead and vig him (or lynch if Molla already shot someone else). If we can, then we let him get his other investigation, have him out it first thing, then have him be the lynch D3 or have Molla insta-vig him right after.

I'm not saying i don't understand yours and Slumber's reasoning here--I do. However, I'm not going to allow us to lynch/vig someone who still has a cop shot left and whose conditions for being insta-lynched/vigged haven't been met yet; at the very least I'm not going to support it, anyways.

On that note, we ARE letting Tammy get neighborizer, right?

If Elmo is today's lynch I propose Eidolon gets vigged. Regardless of whatever his role may or may not be, I'd rather not have him around for long (plus his ISO is terrible). My vote is more or less interchangable on either of them, as I'd want whichever isn't vigged to be lynched today.

Vote: Elmo

[PeregrineV]

I think Eid is gone also.

[Phillammon]

5. Voidedmafia

Incredibly unrelentingly townie. Masses of walls,

Did you even read them, by chance?

piled on to MoI's scumslip.

I did?

Yes, I did read the walls, and I could have sworn that that was a bulk of your interaction with MoI. My apologies if not. My notes were vague.

[Magua]

Vote Count 2.7

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Elmo TeH AzN (7): Mehdi2277, Tammy, Tazaro, Guille2015, StefanB, Phillammon, VoidedMafia
Phillammon (2): BBmolla, Seanald
Seanald (1): greygnarl
Tazaro (1): Pitty

Not Voting (6): Elmo TeH AzN, Declan_giggs, Eidolon, PeregrineV, SlumberPartyBois, Salamence20

Deadline is November 20th, at 11:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2012-11-20 23:00:00)

Looking for a replacement for Declan_giggs. Eidolon will be prodded tonight at the 72 hour mark and will then have 24 hours to respond or be replaced.

[Tazaro]

So now
Elmo's at

L-2

[Phillammon]

Shoot, then lynch. Preferably shoot scum.

[Phillammon]

And within the next 5 hours if at all possible.

Eid is a reasonable shot, as is Seanald for related reasons. I'm interested to hear the case on myself, as always, by the way.

[Salamence20]

no one vote Elmo.

Why is Phillamon scum?

Can everyone post in bold if they trust SPB or not?

Phill, if you think SPB is scum, why did you transfer?

Mehdi or Tammy, can you see some form of scum motivation for SPB's plan

[Salamence20]

Oh, Eid is a bad shot because she's not SK

[BBmolla]

Greynarl any last words?

[Salamence20]

Greynarl any last words?

Wait Wut?

[Seanald]

no one vote Elmo.

Why is Phillamon scum?

Can everyone post in bold if they trust SPB or not?

Phill, if you think SPB is scum, why did you transfer?

Mehdi or Tammy, can you see some form of scum motivation for SPB's plan

SPB is the most obvious fucking town I could ever show an example of, I really can't understand anyones paranoia of him. hes playing an extremely transparent game which can only come from honest town play.

[Seanald]

I can get more into that if you want

[Phillammon]

SPB worries me- I'll freely admit it's the weakest of my scumreads, but the plan was pretty solid to my eyes anyway- I couldn't see any holes and everyone else seemed to agree with it.

[Pitty]

Actually, there was a giant gaping hole in SPB's plan (assuming we're talking about money transferring?) and that's only if he's scum. Because he's the one who basically picked who was getting money transferred to, he would have not only put himself on that list, but his scum buddies too, meaning all of them are getting about an extra $200.

But that problem obviously only occurs if he's scum, and we do not believe he is, which is why we never brought it up.

We very much dislike Seanald getting lynched/shot

today

, tomorrow would be a good time to do that, but we dislike destroying that cop shot :/

Molla, why do you want to shoot gnarlsbarkley? o.O that seems very random, and if we didn't think it was impossible for scum to have a day-vig ability (without one being in the auctions) we would be voting you for that.

Tazaro's latest posts have shifted our read slightly, at least enough to UNVOTE:

[Mehdi2277]

I can see some, but it necessitates two things. First that he has an idea of who has money. Second a maximum of two of his scum partners could be transferring elsewhere or it would cost him too much. If you think the list people who transferred is mostly town then maybe, but beyond that he was transparent, willing to change and strengthen the plan and didn't just force it but discussed it.

Like sean said he's obv town and paranoia is bad.

Molla what was enough for you to shoot grey (over people who everyone wants to lynch so the sooner they die the better)?

I trust SDB.

[Phillammon]

Actually, there was a giant gaping hole in SPB's plan (assuming we're talking about money transferring?) and that's only if he's scum. Because he's the one who basically picked who was getting money transferred to, he would have not only put himself on that list, but his scum buddies too, meaning all of them are getting about an extra $200.

But that problem obviously only occurs if he's scum, and we do not believe he is, which is why we never brought it up.

We very much dislike Seanald getting lynched/shot

today

, tomorrow would be a good time to do that, but we dislike destroying that cop shot :/

Molla, why do you want to shoot gnarlsbarkley? o.O that seems very random, and if we didn't think it was impossible for scum to have a day-vig ability (without one being in the auctions) we would be voting you for that.

Tazaro's latest posts have shifted our read slightly, at least enough to UNVOTE:

Were this the case, and I'm willing to entertain the possibility hypothetically, I have a strong enough townread on at least salamence to go along with my part of it. Besides which, I flat out refuse to believe that all, what, 5(?) recipients are scum. Though I guess it's reasonably likely that at least one of them is.

[Tammy]

I'll be getting to this game in just a bit. I'm still trying to catch up in my games.

I don't think anyone is around but I don't want a hammer before I catch up so

UNVOTE:

[greygnarl]

While I was initially suspiscous kanye's "matt's been wanting to have a go" or whatever he said just screams town.

So I trust SPB

Also, Mehdi it's Slumber

Party

Bois, not Darty.

@Phil I didn't say Seanald advertised Neighborizer is a fact. I think that either he or his scumteam did it.

[BBmolla]

That's it Grey?

[greygnarl]

That's it Grey?

?

[Mehdi2277]

He said he plans to kill you.

[Mehdi2277]

Molla what was enough for you to shoot grey (over people who everyone wants to lynch so the sooner they die the better)?

[greygnarl]

Wait he actually wants to shoot me? Are you fucking serious?

[Tammy]

Bb...please don't shoot greygnarl