PEdit: I actually felt the opposite way when I read it. It's possible that kwll was given his replacee's Role PM, word for word, in which case, he would have thought Parama was his partner still in the game. I was going to keep an eye out if one of them flipped scum at any point.
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@kwll:I want to know who you think the three most likely scum are, and why you feel that they are scum.
PEdit: I actually felt the opposite way when I read it. It's possible that kwll was given his replacee's Role PM, word for word, in which case, he would have thought Parama was his partner still in the game. I was going to keep an eye out if one of them flipped scum at any point.-
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@tommy: Sherlock's jacob argument fails because it assumes that the spreadsheet is UBERscummy and therefore scum wouldn't use it. I am saying that the spreadsheet is not UBERscummy. scum doesnt need to go through the trouble of a spreadsheet, but if they want to distance their reads or get some help and not get caught easily, the spreadsheet will help a TON. its a way of contributing without taking a stance. Maybe i dont understand sherlock? was his argument something different?
in regards to kwll's parama/absta thing: how do we know "ab" is absta and not abbadon. Kwll?-
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I used a lot if info fro IK mega post since it seemed to have a lot of info that has occuered the last few pages. I still didnt see where paranama got replaced.
My top 3 are
Trollie for his repeated denial of cherry and was proven wrong by his own quote. Such inconsistis leans scum.
Cheery for his use of meta ...such as using his previous games to show his innonce
both which appear to me arguing and bussing each other to appear innoncent later in case one is lynched
and my third
is randal for being overtly defensive.
btw I did post in 296 asking for help on how to format and quote and make a wall...as you can tell from my last post...I didnt do a good job which is why I asked for help.-
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just iso'd everyone again:
sherlock-null
jacob - scum
Abbadon-leaning scum [this is a change from before. I noticed this time that he backs off easily, piggybacks on other people's objections, and is reaching to make cases]
Absta-town
delta - town
idiot- town
kwll-slight town
Radelle - slightscum - waiting for content/replacement - Radelle had a super scummy start and i weigh that heavily into my read but his last few posts read as pretty damn town
Slandaar-nulltown - I really hope he is town because I like what he is doing in this game
tommy-null - As i think ive said before, I want to call tommy scum but i cannot shake a gut town read
toxic-null- need to go back, didn't read with enough detail
CD-null- didnt even look at. will go back when i have more time
p-edit: sherlock, then I dont get ur argument. Is your argument that you could not imagine scum going through those lengths to generate reads? If that is true can someone else read what sherlock said and tell me if they read it that way? I do not see that argument in there and it concerns me if that is what the argument was. That being said I just might be missing something. In either case, that is a bad reason to think jacob is town because my argument directly answers that point, showing why scum would go through those lengths. if your argument is that scum has no reason to create a spreadsheet, and I show you a reason scum would make a spreadsheet, your argument doesn't still stand.
p-edit2: kwll is town because he does not even TRY to make comprehensive arguments in that post-
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@sherlock, I do agree, but since I have my doubts on jacob, and i can easily come up with scum-motivation for the strategy (which includes the WIFOM aspect you are eluding to), it doesnt convince me that he is town.
Remind me to answer ur radelle question after we hear back from him/his replacement (i hope you can understand)
@kwll: there are a host of reasons why i might change my reads. I should hope a person is open to re-evaluating their reads as the game progresses.
I have a feeling someone asked this already, but what is ur MS experience? how many games have u been in?-
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kwll that game is still going on which means you really should stay away from even mentioning it in any other thread. I know the comment you just made seems like it wouldnt affect anything at all but a lot of ppl are very strict on this rule.-
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yeah i am still feeling slight town from kwll.
his play in his mafia game he is just much more concise and comprehensive which id imagine is due to pressure to scumhunt/have reasons for reads. i see much less of that here so looks genuine.
kwll, do you have anyone who you feel confident is town right now?-
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In post 344, kwll wrote:Cherry, Hard to get a read off of you. You seem to use a lot of meta, esp when you are referring to your other games. Why do you keep mententing Scum wants you alive till LYLO? We are only on day 1. That makes me kinda curious about you. Your playstyle tho also strikes me as scummy. Scum do not need to scum hunt, so your "play style" of being reactive just means either waiting for a good bandwagon to strike on or merely defend yourself. Either way those are scum moves.
I have not linked to any of my previous games, they may have been mentioned, but I have not brought them up to show innocence, others may well have because they wanted to examine my play style in detail (or other reasons I do not know), but how does that actually count against me?
I've been mentioning that scum want to keep me alive for LYLO because that's what I believe my scumread of thetrollie is doing with the defending of me based on said meta.
I also have no idea where the rest of your reads and arguments have come from as basically none of them make sense, can you go into more detail into how you reached the conclusions you did?
The spreadsheet technique of Jacob's strikes me as null and any read I have of him won't be based on that (he is still sitting at null currently, slightly scum lean, because of his lack of content inside the thread). I can see both Trollie's & Sherlock's arguments as being possibly true, which is why the whole thing is a null result.Holder of the Longest Continuous Weekly Mafiascum Post Record. 1 July 2012 - 16 Feb 2023
*It may be held by someone else if you discount the major downtime in 2012 and 2014, I'm not doing the research.-
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