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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:20 am

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In post 394, Empire wrote:As far as the second cell goes, I second wanting to see the results of the director's meta research.


Actually, I'd like to see your call on who in our cell is scum
before
Tierce gives her meta results.
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:34 am

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In post 398, Konowa wrote:
In post 253, Empire wrote:I'm torn on it too. It's a really weird and potentially gamebreaking claim if true but it makes sense in light of his comments in the early game about this game being bastardly.


This is scum, saulres.


If that's scum, then isn't the post immediately preceding it, by F-16, which also expresses conflict over NS's claim, a scum post?
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:44 am

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No. F16 was actively trying to figure out if it could work. Empire just plopped down a me too post.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:47 pm

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Saulres, I explained why I kept voting in #250. Couldn't continuously keep the pressure up throughout the game because I had to go V/LA, hence the obnoxious catch up post. Not sure about the director which is why I'm waiting on the meta research conclusions; his reads are terrible and tonally he comes across as overblown but given his recent join date, he could just be new and uh...not very good at mafia.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:05 pm

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Yeah that 250 was long long long so I didn't read it. I will if it comes down to your cell and I can still talk but please forgive me for not catching your rationale in there.

The reason I want a read on the Xalxe/the director slot from you is because you're the only non-alignment-confirmed player who hasn't given their read on our cell. If our cell mislynches, I think it will be very valuable for Tierce and the cell 2 townies to be able to draw conclusions based on associative tells. So unless any of the confirmed townies disagree, please give your pick for the scum in our cell.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:08 pm

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In post 404, saulres wrote:I will if it comes down to your cell and I can still talk


EBWOP: By this I mean of course if the conftownies decide that your cell goes before ours.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:41 pm

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In post 403, Empire wrote:Not sure about the director which is why I'm waiting on the meta research conclusions; his reads are terrible and tonally he comes across as overblown but given his recent join date, he could just be new and uh...not very good at mafia.
This is not going to happen before you give your own opinion. I'm confTown, I have a puppy, I don't need any sheeplings.

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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:58 am

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Reads on my cell hasn't changed. F-16 was trying to end D1 with a bus for town cred, which he immediately tried to ride post-flip on cell 2.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:12 am

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Lynch it.
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:53 pm

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We're doing this without waiting for Empire to give his read?

Well hopefully it won't be needed.

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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:04 pm

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Well, I am town. Want to confirm that just in case Saulres happens to be the scum.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:29 pm

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I'll wait for Empire's read. Just in case we are wrong, I want to make sure the last cell gets it right
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:40 am

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Vote Count XVIII:
Cloud birds of
drama

Empire (0)
Konowa (0)
Tierce (0)


Shamrock

Shmugen


F-16_Fighting_Falcon (0)
saulres (0)
:right: the director (1) ~ saulres

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(expired on 2012-11-19 21:45:00)
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:43 am

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Still here.
Waiting at this point. Confident that a lynch of the director will end the game.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:31 am

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In post 403, Empire wrote:which is why I'm waiting on the meta research conclusions
Empire is hardly helpless, and apparently does meta research himself. This refusal to actually
do something
himself when he
has
been online--yeah, it doesn't give me good vibes about Empire at all. As far as I'm aware, he is uncomfortable playing scum and has issues producing results. This matches his behavior here so far; I think that post 250 was very forced and an attempt to show work that doesn't actually fit his Town play.
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:01 pm

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Alright, I should be home and able to focus tonight, expect a Shmu-style wall for each of our remaining contenders within 24 hours.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:16 pm

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This is taking forever. I am going to go ahead and hammer unless anyone has any objections.
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:24 pm

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I don't see me reading through and finding a better candidate than Xalxe's slot, but I'm not the best at this. Worst comes to worst, we have a 50/50 shot with the last cell.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:49 pm

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All right, time to end this:

VOTE: TheDirector
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:53 pm

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Sure, do that when Vi won't be around for several hours *shakefist*

Here's hoping that ends it.
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:52 pm

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Mod scene forthcoming. Don't panic.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:02 am

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Vote Count XIX:
There we go
Empire (0)
Konowa (0)
Tierce (0)


Shamrock

Shmugen


F-16_Fighting_Falcon (0)
saulres (0)
:right:
the director (2) ~ saulres, F-16_Fighting_Falcon


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--The next deadline is November 16, 2012 - in
(expired on 2012-11-19 21:45:00)
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--- the director, a
Mafia Goon
, was lynched in Rarefaction!
--- F-16_Fighting_Falcon, a
Vanilla Townie
, survived Rarefaction!
--- saulres, a
Vanilla Townie
, survived Rarefaction!

--- Tierce, a
Town Puppybearer
, survived Rarefaction!!!
--- Konowa,
Tarhalindur, Pandora over Mafia
, aligned with the
Town
, survived Rarefaction!!!
--- Empire, a
Mafia Goon
, loses Rarefaction by default!



---Game Over!


Town
...
Wins!

Mafia
...
Loses...


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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:04 am

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~NAME~


Welcome to Mafia in Triplicate, where you have drawn
Vanilla Townie
.
If that's what you wanted, congratulations!

You win when
two of the three scum in this game
are dead. You did read that, right? Confirm with the phrase "hey-o" if so.

I wish you the best of luck.


~NAME~


Welcome to Mafia in Triplicate, where you have drawn
Mafia Goon
. If that's what you wanted, congratulations!

*Factional Stuff.
Your partners are ____ and _____. You may speak here pregame and at Night, but not during the Day. At Night you may as a faction kill one player.

You win when it is impossible for the Town to fulfill their Win Condition. What is that Win Condition? Go read the Sample Role PM, and confirm like they should!

I wish you the best of luck.


~NAME~


Welcome to Mafia in Triplicate, where you have drawn
Town Puppybearer
. If that's what you wanted, congratulations!

*Yarrf!
You have a puppy. This might have ingame significance, but really, who cares? U^_^U

You win when
two of the three scum in this game
are dead. You did read that, right? Confirm with the phrase "hey-o" if so.

I wish you the best of luck.
Mod note: Is mod-confirmed Town after Day 1.


~NAME~


Well, well. You didn't think that you would enter my game and draw
that
, did you...?

You have entered this game as
Tarhalindur, Pandora over Mafia
. With charm in your body and deceit on your mind, you are the embodiment of what could ruin all those who fancy you - and also a fairly decent Mafia player. But that's not all you have to offer your victims. You see, there's this one jar, and there were some things in it, and, well... oh, look what you've visited on yourself!

*Foreboding.
You know that an event will occur at the end of Day 1.

Now then... You're
Town
, and win when
two out of the three scum in this game
are dead. Your Role PM might be a little nonstandard, so you should probably check the Sample Role PM with how to confirm...

I suppose I wish you the best of luck.~





Role and cell assignment:

1
3 8
4
6 7
9
5 2

8
4
3

9 5 7
2 1 6




So, I think we can all agree on two things:

1) The idea is incredibly awesome.
2) The execution was incredibly the opposite.

So many things went wrong with this setup and its modding that I can only try to remember them all here.

*I wasn't actually sure if this game was Town-sided with the mechanic - leaning toward no - and then the role assignment dropped a hippo on the Town side of the seesaw of balance and catapulted the scum into orbit. Nobody Special was a fair catch, Xalxe did what he's most famous for, and Empire was left holding the bag. I think that even though three scum in a Micro is ludicrous on its face, this Town could have won it without the process-of-elimination factor brought in by Rarefaction. Getting Tarhalindur and Puppybearer in the same cell didn't help at all.

*The game should have been labeled bastard. All the warnings I gave between Konowa's role and the ominous rule in the first post and the conspicuous lack of the traditional mood music at the start of the game probably were not enough to justify what happened. In case you're wondering, the reason I didn't tell anyone what precisely was going to happen was because I thought that having the scum
prepare
for it would destroy any Town advantage that could be gained from it - it was intended as a "snapshot in time" sort of thing.

*Following the above, nobody on the review team considered fakeclaims. When Nobody Special claimed, I etc. I'd like to personally apologize to NS for that rug pull.

*I tried to change how I do my vote counts in order to appease the people who basically don't like them a little. I think I made them worse. The fact that we had such wildly varying name lengths in this game (F-16_Fighting_Falcon is about as long by picas as Tierce (L-4) ~ Empire ) certainly didn't help, but etc.

*It's taken years to get this far, but I'm running out of time and motivation to put in YouTube links in each vote count. Repeating from previous games is so lame, and in this game in particular I was coming up empty on "how can I vaguely describe what's going on AND find apropos mood music" most of the time.

*I tried to go for putting vote counts on the tops of pages instead of the usual fixed-time-per-day bit I usually go with. That most decisively did not work, especially since it screwed up my rhythm for checking on prods.

*I forgot that Mafia was orange in this game since I wanted to distinguish the Tarhalindur role. You all know it's coming; but people always immediately ask "the role is red, does that mean Mafia?" even though I kind of clearly say it's Town farther down. :/

So, overall I'd rate this game a failure for reasons within and beyond my control. I'd like to apologize to everyone for its shortcomings.

But, the idea's still a good one, and I have an Open version of this setup and mechanic coming to a Micro queue near you. I'm going on V/LA all of next week, but after that we can take another stab at this mechanic - we'll see how gameplay changes when everyone knows this mechanic is coming.

Thanks to everyone for playing!
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:06 am

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Also worth mentioning: Empire actually predicted something like this happening pregame, though his justification was incorrect. :?
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:51 am

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Za~
Yarrf!


Thanks for modding, Vi. Thanks to everyone for putting up with me~ It's good to know my reads were great once we got into Rarefaction and I could cross out most associative tells pairings. Some of those Towntells were pretty spectacular, people need to spot such things more often.

Town played well and it is a very deserved win (if I say so myself :shifty:), but admittedly, the scum weren't stellar.

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