Marketplace Mafia II - Game Over

[Magua]

Vote Count 2.17

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

PeregrineV (4): greygnarl, Tazaro, SlumberPartyBois, Nero Cain
Shamrock (4): Mehdi2277, callforjudgement, Tammy, VoidedMafia
callforjudgement (2): Phillammon, Salamence20
Phillammon (2): BBmolla, Seanald
Mehdi2277 (1): PeregrineV

Not Voting (4): Shamrock, Pitty, Guille2015, StefanB

Deadline is November 20th, at 11:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2012-11-20 23:00:00)

[Tazaro]

How about if anyone has ever hammered, then their vote will not be a vote that will be freezed?

[StefanB]

I don't think you can freeze past hammer.
I won't count on me beeing online past hammer. (statistic)

If that is about the acidential hammer:
A is at L-1
B is on A and gets frozen.
Magua isn't online
B unvotes
C votes A
Hammer.

Posible.

[Tazaro]

No, I'm asking whether it would be strategic/good idea to NOT eventually freeze someone's vote IF that person has been on record as hammering someone.

[Tazaro]

Example: Voided is now on record as having hammered someone. Should Voided be someone whose vote is not eventually freezed when it is eventually time to freeze someone's vote?

[StefanB]

Shrug, don't think that should play a role.
I don't want to force someone.
Basicly it should be used so it doesn't play a big role. (Not as punishment)
I am more in the thinking burn it openly.
So I don't see any need to have a not freeze Voidmafiarule.
Sorry the whole think is "That is unimportant." in my mind.

[callforjudgement]

@Tazaro: The vote freezer is really irrelevant. Worst case we all use FoSes rather than votes, and when someone reaches F-0, we all pile on them at once. Burning it openly is a good idea, though.

[BBmolla]

Forgive me for not talking, it's basically like you guys are talking about a trip you're going to go on and I can't go.

[callforjudgement]

Forgive me for not talking, it's basically like you guys are talking about a trip you're going to go on and I can't go.

You can scumhunt instead. We need more of that, right now, with three viable wagons at the moment, and in fact I'm a bit worried about the way people have just stopped hunting as soon as the theory discussion started. Who out of Shamrock, PeregrineV, Phillamon do you think is the scummiest?

[BBmolla]

Phil.

[callforjudgement]

Right. What's the Phillamon case? Several people seem to have fractions of a case (I have a case based on associations with Peregrine, but no real case on Phillamon directly), and it'd be helpful if we sorted the basis for the case out.

Also, a more general comment: at this point in the day, people should either be joining major wagons, or pushing their own wagons quite hard. Not voting, or hiding on a minor wagon (*glares at PeregrineV*), is just wasting time for no real benefit.

[BBmolla]

See: Worst Role
See: This Game

Compare and contrast.

[Tazaro]

See: Worst Role
See: This Game

Compare and contrast.

What's your point here?

[Tazaro]

About activity level?

[BBmolla]

Yup.

[Tazaro]

pushing their own wagons quite hard

PLEASE LYNCH PEREGRINE

[Tazaro]

joining major wagons

OR, I OPEN MYSELF TO JOINING SHAMROCK WAGON

[Phillammon]

Yup.

You'll have noticed similar things going on in all my games at once. WRM was in the summer hol's for me, iirc, as opposed to termtime at a new college with heavy workload.

In any case, a revised list of reads (colours only, explanations are available on request)

1. BBmolla

- Going to explain this one here and now. Everything that ISN'T the shot hitting scum seems very weird, and if there are two scumteams like it sounded like people were insinuating, it wouldn't be out of the question that he is scum. That's an outside chance, though.

2. callforjudgement (replaces Elmo TeH AzN)

3. Shamrock (replaces Declan_giggs who replaced GreyICE)

4. Guille2015

5. Voidedmafia

6. Mehdi2277

8. SlumberPartyBois (a hydra of kanyeknowsbest + MattP)

9. Pitty (a hydra of of Malakittens + PiggyGal15)

10. StefanB

11. Nero Cain (replaces Eidolon)

Until further notice.

12. PeregrineV

13. Tazaro

15. greygnarl

16. Seanald

18. Tammy

20. Salamence20

[Phillammon]

The preceding post doesn't feel long enough. Did I miss someone?

[callforjudgement]

BTW, Phillammon just committed a moderately strong objective scumtell. (Look at where his vote is, then look at his reads list.)

[Voidedmafia]

The preceding post doesn't feel long enough. Did I miss someone?

No.

BTW, Phillammon just committed a moderately strong objective scumtell. (Look at where his vote is, then look at his reads list.)

He just got back. He'll notice soon enough. <_<

[Tazaro]

UNVOTE

VOTE: Shamrock

[BBmolla]

Phil's reads suck.

He's scum.

etc.

[Mehdi2277]

I'd actually be pretty willing to just let philla get lynched now. Currently both sham and philla make probable scum so one wagon go.

Voided reason you're still voting cfj?

[Phillammon]

Again, I thought I'd removed the vote. I definitely HAD switched vote when I originally wrote that post, which worries me as to where it went. Molla, you're not helping yourself. Could you be more specific as to why my reads suck if you're going to challenge them?

VOTE: Shamrock