Mafiastuck (GAME OVER TOWN WINS!)

[buldermar]

Does anyone actually think that torgonitoh's posts are worth a damn?

Yes, it's like the one posts for the past few pages that are worth something. I think people overlook the analysis in them because of the language, unfortunately.

[AurorusVox]

Torgonitoh is probably the most obvTown player here :\

[Maenara]

Meeh, xtoph seems okay now, I guess. Reaction hasn't been bad, and mostly in line with his prior style, so is all good.

For now, I'm willing to go for someone who has absolutely failed to play as well as he can, and has instead gone for stating the obvious and voting for either the most popular wagons, or wagons that don't make sense at all. Yes, there's a chance that he might be doing this as town, but if that's the case, it's about time he shows us that.

VOTE: AurorusVox

[AurorusVox]

?

I have played as well as I can. I'm playing the long game here, Maenara.

Is SAR a popular wagon or one that doesn't make sense? Hmm?
Did I get on Pasch because he was popular, or way before? Hmm?

[quadz08]

Votecount 2.3

malpascp (6): Zeta, Porfervor, Sunshine and Rainbows, Titan, xtopherusD, BroodKingEXE
Cheery Dog (3): Nachomamma8, buldermar, Robocopter87
AurorusVox (3): Vifam, ActionDan, Maenara
Maenara (2): DeasVail, BT
Sunshine and Rainbows (2): AurorusVox, torgonitoh
combinatorialEnigma (1): mehdi2277
Nachomamma8 (1): Cheery Dog
Zdenek (1): Fate
xtopherusD (0):
Alduskkel (0):
DeasVail(0):
buldermar (0):
ActionDan (0):
Vifam (0):
Titan (0):
Robocopter87 (0):
mehdi2277 (0):
Phillammon (0):
torgonitoh (0):
Fate
Porfervor
Zeta (1): Zdenek
Guy_Named_Riggs
Murderface
BT

Not Voting (6): Alduskkel, combinatorialEnigma, Murderface, malpascp, Guy_Named_Riggs, Phillammon

14 to lynch.

Deadline is December 5th.

Guy_Named_Riggs and Murderface have been prodded.

Robocopter87 is V/LA indefinitely. Malpascp is V/LA until 11/25.

[Zdenek]

i'm not actually analyzing zdenek's posts but since his vote is on zeta he probably doesn't have town's best interest in mind

Care to explain your read on Zeta?

Looking at the two top lynch candidates I think malscalp is more scummy. The scummiest thing I see about Avox is his very weak Tazaro push(that is non-existent Tazaro push). malpsacp is far more scummy as he has soft defended confirmed scum multiple times and never voted for buldemar who he was flipping out about for confirming scum(still have no idea wtf that is about).
VOTE: Maenara

Could you explain what you're getting at because a lot of things are wrong with this post.

saying that focusing on people (when declared) is scummy in this large of a game is just dumb (I honestly probably couldn't say all of your names right now).

I might have thought that too, until I saw it work. There's no real way for town to decide who to focus on. They basically just read the thread and respond to things/organize their thoughts/whatever, but Zeta is saying that he somehow decided to ignore Buldermar, without having any sort of read on him, to the point of ignoring his scum-claim which occupied a large part of yesterday. It makes absolutely no sense for him to do this, from the point of view of someone who is looking for scum.

[Alduskkel]

Hey so I'm fully caught up. Quick list of reads:
xtopherusD: Town
CE: Weak Scum. Needs to post more for me to get a better read.
Nacho: Town
AurorusVox: Weak Scum, but stronger than CE. Need more posts from him, definitely.
malpascp: Seems scummy for interactions with Pandorica and Paschendale. Reaction to buldermar scum claim was nullish for me, though. Willing to vote for him.
DeasVail: Town.
Sunshine & Rainbows: Town
Cheery Dog: Weak Scum. I'd be willing to lynch him, but there are better candidates.
buldermar: Nullish town. Might be scum for interactions with other players? IDK, not my concern right now.
Phillamon: Town
torg: Town, but annoying.
ActionDan: Town
Fate: No clue/Null. Post more dude.
Maenara: Scummy in general. DV and ActionDan votes were terrible, current AV vote is really weak too, seems like a lazy scum vote. Definitely willing to lynch Maenara.
Titan: Weak Town.
Porfervor: Somewhere between Town and Weak Town.
BroodKing: Weak Town. Need more posts.
Zeta: Town, unless Zdenek's ongoing game info is something really substantial.
Zdenek: Probably town. Definitely comes off worse compared to Zeta, though.
Guy Named Riggs: Who?
Robocopter: IDK. Seems to be in it to just to make silly comments mostly. Whether that's town or scum is anybody's guess.
Nikanor/Murderface: Who?
Mehdi: Weak weak weak town. As he posts more I'll get a better read.
Vifam: Bit better than Robo. Still, IDK.
BT: Weak town.

Vote: Maenara

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Other wagons I'd be willing to get on:
malpascp -- except I want to see what sort of defense he posts.
AurorusVox -- except that he hasn't posted enough for me to feel confident about this vote.
CheeryDog -- except that Nacho's case isn't hefty enough for Cheery to be a better vote than the others.

[Zdenek]

Why do you think that zeta is town?

[AurorusVox]

Where's Fate at?

[Maenara]

?

I have played as well as I can. I'm playing the long game here, Maenara.

Is SAR a popular wagon or one that doesn't make sense? Hmm?
Did I get on Pasch because he was popular, or way before? Hmm?

Maenara: Scummy in general. DV and ActionDan votes were terrible, current AV vote is really weak too, seems like a lazy scum vote. Definitely willing to lynch Maenara.

Is this how it will be?

Okay, then.

AurorusVox. You have twenty-two posts. Of those, a single one is better than "I think this, no reason why". For anyone willing to dispute this, go check his iso. You're not playing as well as you can. For all I know, you might have real life things going on, but the mere fact that you lied just there makes me think not. You can do better than this, and yet you don't. That's scummy.

And your wagons, H3H3H3.

Yes, the SAR wagon doesn't make sense, unless you're hiding something - And if you've got one such stellar reason, I wonder why you never said it. You were doing your best, weren't you?

Yes, the Pasch one was popular - Traction is not solely measured in the amount of votes on the wagon, but also in how many people would want to vote it. Pasch hasn't dug his bloody grave; he'd entombed the body and planted a tree on top.

And yes, the Titan one was definitely out there. I bring to you, Ladies, Gentlemen and Variations Thereupon, from the Sole Post of Content:

Titan, if you think the game can be broken, why would you feel cheated UNLESS YOU WERE SCUM? Also confirmed as not reading the thread

VOTE: Titan

What is this. Seriously. What.

Aurorus, just give up already.

This is not scumhunting. This is not quality posting. It's not even a joke, because calling it that would be a travesty. This is a single, feeble attempt to look like a participating player. The only attempt thereat.

This is not good enough.

[AurorusVox]

Oh yeah, I forgot Titan scumclaimed. Thanks for reminding me. He can go die after you.

[Zdenek]

Oh yeah, I forgot Titan scumclaimed. Thanks for reminding me. He can go die after you.

Where?

[Robocopter87]

V/LA probably won't last long.

Talking three days max

I hope.

[Mehdi2277]

I'm assuming he's referring to the game broken/cheated comment. And honestly I know multiple players that feel sad as town to play in a game broken for the town. Thinking of it and really a lot of his play that tends to appear more makes me have him as town.

Mae you said he was on popular wagons. Whether SAR is some special reason or not he's shown it untrue. Point is how does not make you reconsider a bit instead of just continue with the attack and modify.

Aldusk explain the BT and my read. Along with how cE is weak scum not worthy of a wagon to be willing to go on.

[Zdenek]

I'm assuming he's referring to the game broken/cheated comment.

Well, that's not a scum-claim.

[Maenara]

Mae you said he was on popular wagons.

Stop lying. "X = Y v X = Z" != "X = Y".

[Alduskkel]

Why do you think that zeta is town?

Zeta is town because he's making good points about malp. Generally seems on the ball arguing with you, though I don't think anyone has "won" the argument yet.

Aldusk explain the BT and my read. Along with how cE is weak scum not worthy of a wagon to be willing to go on.

Your read is really simple. You've only made a few posts, but the ones of substance have decent analysis. Hence, weak town read, more info needed.

BT generally seems to put effort into this game, linking stuff, checking votes, analyzing as necessary. He doesn't post tons, but his reads are about right.

CE is obviously scummy from what little he's posted. Shitty Noir vote (even if Noir was scum), fluff, blatant prod-dodging, never seems to come up with anything much. OTOH, he's also not much of a presence in the game, and he doesn't seem to react much to pressure either. So he could be lurkerscum but with there being more data on other players it's easier to judge them, and wait for more data on CE.

Hopefully the lurkerscum players (mostly CE and AV) will either A) post more so that I can get a better read or B) Die so that it doesn't matter. If they continue to lurk hard and be scummy then I'd be perfectly happy to lynch them.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho so which is more likely? The reasoning he's pushing shows a good amount of thought and looks genuine to me.

i agree he is town as fuck
my wires just got crossed a little

Looking at the two top lynch candidates I think malscalp is more scummy. The scummiest thing I see about Avox is his very weak Tazaro push(that is non-existent Tazaro push). malpsacp is far more scummy as he has soft defended confirmed scum multiple times and never voted for buldemar who he was flipping out about for confirming scum(still have no idea wtf that is about).
VOTE: Maenara

Aren't I currently the second biggest lynch candidate in terms of votes on me?

obvscum

Lol, too many Ms UNVOTE: Maenara
VOTE: malscalp
@Cheery I was talking about the consensus in the thread. From a quick feel I think that they are the most considered candidates. I personally haven't seen anything scummy of you.

obvscum

Unvote, Vote: malpscp

[Maenara]

Fancy how you join the wagon of someone you see as scum, Ald, and then neglect to comment on the wagonee having a post with another of your scumreads. One would think that prime commenting material.

Might you have another reason to not wish to get involved?

P-edit: I really should read the whole Malpscp thing in the morning.

[Alduskkel]

You guys can be on separate scumteams or bussing or whatever. I don't really care. Trying to screw around with "scum interactions" between two players when neither of them has flipped is just silly. malpascp interactions work because both Pandorica and Paschendale/Tazaro are dead.

Also your post reeks of OMGUS. And if you're trying to call me scummy, then just say it, don't bother with this subtle bullshit.

[Nachomamma8]

Fancy how you join the wagon of someone you see as scum, Ald, and then neglect to comment on the wagonee having a post with another of your scumreads. One would think that prime commenting material.

Might you have another reason to not wish to get involved?

P-edit: I really should read the whole Malpscp thing in the morning.

obvscum

[Maenara]

Oh, yes, OMGUS. Bring on the buzzwords, that's sure to help.

No, seriously. You bitch in your post about AV not posting enough. You have your vote on me. And yet you neglect the ongoing debate between the two of us.

I mean what.

P-edit: Hi Nacho.

[Cheery Dog]

Is that how it works, I just some here and do this

Spoiler:

Nacho so which is more likely? The reasoning he's pushing shows a good amount of thought and looks genuine to me.

i agree he is town as fuck
my wires just got crossed a little

Looking at the two top lynch candidates I think malscalp is more scummy. The scummiest thing I see about Avox is his very weak Tazaro push(that is non-existent Tazaro push). malpsacp is far more scummy as he has soft defended confirmed scum multiple times and never voted for buldemar who he was flipping out about for confirming scum(still have no idea wtf that is about).
VOTE: Maenara

Aren't I currently the second biggest lynch candidate in terms of votes on me?

obvscum

Lol, too many Ms UNVOTE: Maenara
VOTE: malscalp
@Cheery I was talking about the consensus in the thread. From a quick feel I think that they are the most considered candidates. I personally haven't seen anything scummy of you.

obvscum

Unvote, Vote: malpscp

obvscum

and it's therefore correct?

(spoilered because I think it is a stupid thing to do)

[buldermar]

Is that how it works, I just some here and do this

Spoiler:

Nacho so which is more likely? The reasoning he's pushing shows a good amount of thought and looks genuine to me.

i agree he is town as fuck
my wires just got crossed a little

Looking at the two top lynch candidates I think malscalp is more scummy. The scummiest thing I see about Avox is his very weak Tazaro push(that is non-existent Tazaro push). malpsacp is far more scummy as he has soft defended confirmed scum multiple times and never voted for buldemar who he was flipping out about for confirming scum(still have no idea wtf that is about).
VOTE: Maenara

Aren't I currently the second biggest lynch candidate in terms of votes on me?

obvscum

Lol, too many Ms UNVOTE: Maenara
VOTE: malscalp
@Cheery I was talking about the consensus in the thread. From a quick feel I think that they are the most considered candidates. I personally haven't seen anything scummy of you.

obvscum

Unvote, Vote: malpscp

obvscum

and it's therefore correct?

(spoilered because I think it is a stupid thing to do)

obvscum

[xtopherusD]

Is that how it works, I just some here and do this

Spoiler:

Nacho so which is more likely? The reasoning he's pushing shows a good amount of thought and looks genuine to me.

i agree he is town as fuck
my wires just got crossed a little

Looking at the two top lynch candidates I think malscalp is more scummy. The scummiest thing I see about Avox is his very weak Tazaro push(that is non-existent Tazaro push). malpsacp is far more scummy as he has soft defended confirmed scum multiple times and never voted for buldemar who he was flipping out about for confirming scum(still have no idea wtf that is about).
VOTE: Maenara

Aren't I currently the second biggest lynch candidate in terms of votes on me?

obvscum

Lol, too many Ms UNVOTE: Maenara
VOTE: malscalp
@Cheery I was talking about the consensus in the thread. From a quick feel I think that they are the most considered candidates. I personally haven't seen anything scummy of you.

obvscum

Unvote, Vote: malpscp

obvscum

and it's therefore correct?

(spoilered because I think it is a stupid thing to do)

obvscum

0bvscum 0_0