Marketplace Mafia II - Game Over

[SlumberPartyBois]

Ok, now please seriously answer my question.

[Voidedmafia]

dkhe'sscum

So why unvote?

[njoseph]

#dkhe'sscum = #don't know he's scum

[Tazaro]

#dkhe'sscum = #don't know he's scum

alt post,,,,

[Magua]

Vote Count 3.2

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Phillammon (3): Mehdi2277, Seanald, BBmolla
Seanald (1): VoidedMafia

Not Voting (12): callforjudgement, Guille2015, SlumberPartyBois, Pitty, StefanB, DeasVail, PeregrineV, greygnarl, Phillammon, Tammy, N, Tazaro

Deadline is December 3rd, at 5:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2012-12-03 17:00:00)

[SlumberPartyBois]

There must be a reason why you unvoted. People don't do things EVER for no reason. The reason could be anything, but according to a Constructivist view on morality it is immoral and entirely impractical for you to do something for no reason ever. So please dig into the deepest corners of your soul for an answer, I'm sure you can come up with something if you are a God-loving citizen : ]

[Tazaro]

If you are insinuating I could be uncertain of Seanald's being scum without necessarily unvoting from him, then additionally, I am prepared to vote for one in {VM, greygnarl}

[SlumberPartyBois]

Ok, that makes sense, what's your read of Phil, you can keep it short, like maybe your read and then one or two sentences summarizing why, thanks!

[Tazaro]

Phil-->a TOWN member
To me, he doesn't really have a presence. However, in assessing a person who doesn't really have a presence, I find that a non-present person is relatively unlikely to be scum if they are eager to, without fear of being called a busser, put their vote to someone who in that person's mind might turn out to be scum, which is what Shamrock turned out to be.

[Tazaro]

Phil-->a TOWN member
To me, he doesn't really have a presence. However, in assessing a person who doesn't really have a presence, I find that a non-present person is relatively unlikely to be scum if they are eager to, without fear of being called a busser, put their vote to someone who in that person's mind might turn out to be scum, which is what Shamrock turned out to be.

[SlumberPartyBois]

Ok, thanks!

Kanye and I have a few things to talk about and we should have our Proposal posted by tonight for your guys's conveniences

[Voidedmafia]

If you are insinuating I could be uncertain of Seanald's being scum without necessarily unvoting from him, then additionally, I am prepared to vote for one in {VM, greygnarl}

Why me, again? I don't overly recall if you suspected me before (or if you did it was in those 8 pages that I'm not going to read -_-), so...

Phil-->a TOWN member
To me, he doesn't really have a presence. However, in assessing a person who doesn't really have a presence, I find that a non-present person is relatively unlikely to be scum if they are eager to, without fear of being called a busser, put their vote to someone who in that person's mind might turn out to be scum, which is what Shamrock turned out to be.

So, either' Phil's down or he's left-hand mafia to you?

[Tazaro]

^^ I think you can be a LEFT member. IT's PINGINESs
I don't think Phil is a LEFT.

[Voidedmafia]

^^ I think you can be a LEFT member. IT's PINGINESs
I don't think Phil is a LEFT.

...Because...?

[Tazaro]

I find the points on MoI more convincing as of yet than those on Seanald, though, so VOTE: MoI.

Something about this post rings as genuine suspicion of MoI, the first LEFT member to die.

[Voidedmafia]

And me?

[callforjudgement]

Tazaro, how accurate are your reads, usually?

And how accurate are your votes, usually (as in, what proportion of the time you vote as town, is your vote actually on scum)?

[Tazaro]

Tazaro, how accurate are your reads, usually?

And how accurate are your votes, usually (as in, what proportion of the time you vote as town, is your vote actually on scum)?

I already was part of the mislynch of D3f3nd3r. Does that shine light on any of your questions here?

[callforjudgement]

Not really. I meant more in general.

For instance, you have a habit of unvoting whenever you aren't sure. Does that mean, that whenever you vote, you

are

sure?

[Tazaro]

Compare the excerpt from Phillammon with your input about MoI:

VOTE: Seanald

Plan is vote Seanald then daykill MoI right?

No because MoI doesn't need to be daykilled (or killed), period.

Oh look--it's greygnarl that you responded to. Ooh ooh

[Phillammon]

^^ I think you can be a LEFT member. IT's PINGINESs
I don't think Phil is a LEFT.

It's *what*?

Back on the site for a short while, gonna try and do a catch up on all of the games. Seanald is still scum, SPB are still way too mysterious and I'm not sure of what to make about CFJ in particular at the moment. I'll admit that the investigation is interesting, I'm debating whether it was attempted wifom or not.

PEdit: By definition, a majority of players were on the d3f3nd3r lynch. As with the shamrock lynch. It's not a great measure.

[Tazaro]

For instance, you have a habit of unvoting whenever you aren't sure. Does that mean, that whenever you vote, you

are

sure?

Of course not. I am not omniscient.

[Tazaro]

^^ I think you can be a LEFT member. IT's PINGINESs
I don't think Phil is a LEFT.

It's *what*?

Back on the site for a short while, gonna try and do a catch up on all of the games. Seanald is still scum, SPB are still way too mysterious and I'm not sure of what to make about CFJ in particular at the moment. I'll admit that the investigation is interesting, I'm debating whether it was attempted wifom or not.

PEdit: By definition, a majority of players were on the d3f3nd3r lynch. As with the shamrock lynch. It's not a great measure.

Pinginess can be associated with the adjective "visceral"

[callforjudgement]

MagnaofIllusion,

Mafia (Left Hand) Member

, was killed Day 1.

The lynch threshold has been lowered.

Vote Count 1.11

With

20

19 alive, it takes

11

10 to lynch.

Seanald (7): BBmolla, SlumberPartyBois, Gentlemen Bastards, Pitty, Tazaro, greygnarl, Salamence20
D3f3nd3r (2): Mehdi2277, Tammy
Tammy (1): Elmo TeH AzN

Not Voting (9): Guille2015, Voidedmafia, D3f3nd3r, Eidolon, PeregrineV, Seanald, GreyICE, StefanB, Phillammon

BBmolla is town. Even if Magua really wants SK wins for some reason, no sane setup reviewer allows scum (even third-party) in a setup that can dayvig one person, hammer another person whose wagon they're on (via reducing the lynch threshold), then potentially kill a third overnight. Think of the havoc

that

would play with LyLo, especially when the simple fix would be for dayvigs to just reset the vote count like they do in pretty much every other game.

[Voidedmafia]

Compare the excerpt from Phillammon with your input about MoI:

Oh look--it's greygnarl that you responded to. Ooh ooh

...So why does it matter that I responded to GG?

Also, if you are aware, I did not believe the slip until after MoI flipped scum. Unless you believe I was doing some distancing from Moi, this doesn't really make much sense from a scum POV.