Mafiastuck (GAME OVER TOWN WINS!)

[Robocopter87]

Wait who are you shooting Por?

[Nachomamma8]

Wait who are you shooting Por?

doesn't matter

[Mehdi2277]

Theory is he's green scum correct? There's a pretty easy way to test his claim. I shoot him and he jailkeeps me. If he dies then he didn't jailkeep me. I doubt he's a roleblocker since green already has a dead role blocker (black roleblocker maybe but the case on him is associations with green scum). Not sure how likely an actual jailkeeper and a roleblocker are on the same team.

Nacho I actually find 2149 fairly comforting when it comes to Brood. Not original, but the line of thought he's pushing there I like.

So back to VOTE: cE. Cheery's grown more doable and mae is pushing me when I'm about the only person who trusts them is annoying and good at the same time.

[Mehdi2277]

And for anyone thinking I'll be roleblocked, assuming malpa is green scum then black would have no desire to stop me, green is doubtful to have two roles that can block roles (and follows I don't think green would have two redirection type roles), and town shouldn't be stopping me.

[Mehdi2277]

Quick check on one thing:

Mod: How'd conflicting stuns work? Specifically jailkeeper targeting one person while being stunned themselves by a different player?

[quadz08]

If a jailkeeper is roleblocked, then the jailkeeper's action will not go through; it's the same as any other action being targeted by a roleblocker.

[Mehdi2277]

K, at the moment only problem I could is black scum roleblocking malpa if they have a RB to make sure he dies, but whether they'd do it (when it'd be fairly useless if he was scum) and could do it hampers that some. If he dies as town jailkeeper that'd at least confirm one team (likely black mainly since two RBs feels doubtful) has a roleblocker still alive.

[Shrimp85]

Nope, it's because you didn't comment on them. Nice misrep though.

Ah, indeed, that is different.

WTF , Drippinggoofball ... just join the game and only vote?

[Cheery Dog]

K, at the moment only problem I could is black scum roleblocking malpa if they have a RB to make sure he dies, but whether they'd do it (when it'd be fairly useless if he was scum) and could do it hampers that some. If he dies as town jailkeeper that'd at least confirm one team (likely black mainly since two RBs feels doubtful) has a roleblocker still alive.

I'd say it would be quite likely black scum has a roleblocker type thing, the 1- shot taz flipped with was global though, so if it's the same then noone would kill. (though another redirector would also work).

[Alduskkel]

I must say that lynching someone other than malp in the hopes that he'll be NK'd is interesting. But I suspect that getting votes off of him will be really difficult (for some damn good reasons) and the urge to just lynch him anyway is pretty strong as well.

Random hypothetical: Mehdi is scum with malp. Mehdi fails to kill malp, "confirms" his claim.

I dunno, I feel like there's a good chance something could randomly go wrong with Mehdi's plan.

If we're going to lynch someone else then, looking at the wagons right now, I think an AVox lynch would be a nice alternative. Maenara wagon doesn't seem to have steam anymore, sadly.

Actually, let's get that rolling right away:

Unvote: Maenara.
Vote: AurorusVox

[BT]

You feel like this plan could go wrong easily yet you're fine with complying to lynching someone else. ???

The wagon stays. There's no need to get in a knot with role shenanigans like this and assuming 142134 different things at once.

[Shrimp85]

142134 different things.

That's over 9000!!

[buldermar]

I see many mans pick malpasdlfjk. malpasldfjk is dumbmans, but is badmans? no sure, think sunmans or sunrain good pick ok.

QFT. This man understands. Get off that Malp wagon.

UNVOTE:

Mehdi's sudden vote left a bad taste in my mouth

This is scummy posturing.

This

is scummy posturing.

[buldermar]

Unvote, Vote: Cheery Dog

Welcome back.

[buldermar]

@Medhi, I think I may have overstated since it's actually mostly bad interactions with malp, but there are still these.

Unvote, Vote: Paschendale

Welp, that was scummy as fuck. And it means that I get to start reading the game.
But today is going to be an amazing day and is going to involve lots of drinking, so I do not see myself staying sober enough to play mafia for long.
See you guys sunday.

Unvote, Vote: DeasVail

damn shame, but the pasch is town as fuck
not rereading today, I guess

and only one post where he interacts with paraday before tentatively placing him in his scum reads after placing his other buddies in the town list.

TOWN:
buldermar
DeasVail
TAZARO
Vifam
Titan
Epic
Skyman
Robocop
Porfevor
Wutlolski
Malp
Sunshine and Rainbows

SCUM
Alduskel
CHEERY DOG
Brood
Faraday? Maybe?

obviously there are more townreads than scumreads
don't lynch my townreads
will probably be down for whatever the fuck else

fuck I'm using an assumption that malp will indeed flip lime green scum.
dammit, Nacho isn't today's lynch anyway.

How do people not vote this -_-

[Alduskkel]

@BT: Eh. I was already fine with lynching someone else before Mehdi's suggestion. I dunno, I think I'm just being paranoid. OTOH, I'm really not going to try to stop malp's lynch either, since that's kind of silly. But since I was already holding my vote off of him until he gets from from his V/LA then switching to AVox and seeing how that wagon goes seems good to me in the meantime.

[Shrimp85]

How do people not vote this -_-

I'm having a hard time following everything going on, if it helps, you can see me as a retarded child.
But can you explain to me more clearly who you are talking about in this post.
And why the individual is so scummy?

[Titan]

(Fun fact vifam might strongly be green scum also)

[Titan]

((I'll quote the necessary quotes when I get on a computer))

[Titan]

Okay

VOTE: Pasch

Lets just do it, with the rate this is going people are gonna lose interest and the mod will have to pick up replacements.

My name is Tazaro, not Pasch

Oh my bad son

VOTE: Tazaro

This reads fake (since Taz has been in the game for some while now and I don't think Vifam is that inattentive).

Plus here:

Urgh that just might be second guessing the lynch in general now that Malp is close to a hammer

Doesn't add up with the fact that he just decided to hammer Taz right away

[buldermar]

How do people not vote this -_-

I'm having a hard time following everything going on, if it helps, you can see me as a retarded child.
But can you explain to me more clearly who you are talking about in this post.
And why the individual is so scummy?

Ok.

especially the part where my differences make me scum and not playing differently

That doesn't actually have anything to do with why you are scum, it's just why I'm not reading you as town.
I've only completed one game with you so far, so meta arguments aren't even going to work. However I just can't see you being a lazy townie (who also seemed to have put some effort in during day 1)
Heck your interactions with the flipped scum are almost as telling as Malps. (especially if Malp flips lime green)

"Your interactions with the flipped scum are almost as telling as Malps. (especially if Malp flips lime green)"

Cheery quote the strange interactions nacho has with flipped scum.

Asks for proof.

in any case, it doesn't explain why you have such disproportional confidence in this lynch
surely you have something more than "he has x connections with light green scum"? because otherwise there's no need for you to get pissed when people think your wagon is shit.
especially when everyone else is sheeping you because they're like "yeah sure that sounds fair".
and as a result, people are coasting by with bullshit on bullshit.
i am a top contributor because i'm putting a marginal amount of effort into the game, and that's a problem.
cheery has tunneled the fuck out of me for no reason
and everyone is like "yeah, that's fine"
and people like mehdi try to get the game going but everyone ignores him because "hahahahaha we're lynching malp cuz he's such obvscum"
and other people challenge me on my reads because I've been terse
action, don't say i haven't been paying attention

Explains exactly what's going on.

@Medhi, I think I may have overstated since it's actually mostly bad interactions with malp, but there are still these.

Unvote, Vote: Paschendale

Welp, that was scummy as fuck. And it means that I get to start reading the game.
But today is going to be an amazing day and is going to involve lots of drinking, so I do not see myself staying sober enough to play mafia for long.
See you guys sunday.

Unvote, Vote: DeasVail

damn shame, but the pasch is town as fuck
not rereading today, I guess

and only one post where he interacts with paraday before tentatively placing him in his scum reads after placing his other buddies in the town list.

TOWN:
buldermar
DeasVail
TAZARO
Vifam
Titan
Epic
Skyman
Robocop
Porfevor
Wutlolski
Malp
Sunshine and Rainbows

SCUM
Alduskel
CHEERY DOG
Brood
Faraday? Maybe?

obviously there are more townreads than scumreads
don't lynch my townreads
will probably be down for whatever the fuck else

fuck I'm using an assumption that malp will indeed flip lime green scum.
dammit, Nacho isn't today's lynch anyway.

Admits that Nacho's explanation is true and that the proof requested does not exist.

[DrippingGoofball]

Buldermar is town.

I am disappointed that I haven't hammered malcasp after all (I did count the votes before voting).

[DrippingGoofball]

Nope, it's because you didn't comment on them. Nice misrep though.

Ah, indeed, that is different.

WTF , Drippinggoofball ... just join the game and only vote?

ALT DETECTED

[DrippingGoofball]

I must say that lynching someone other than malp in the hopes that he'll be NK'd is interesting.

In my vast experience, this sort of plan NEVER works out. If we think he's scum, we lynch him. We do not count on the creatures of the night.

[quadz08]

Votecount 2.9

malpascp (10): Zeta, Titan, BroodKingEXE, Robocopter87, BT, Vifam, ActionDan, xtopherusD, DrippingGoofball, Porfervor
Cheery Dog (5): buldermar, Fate, AurorusVox, Nachomamma8, Sunshine and Rainbows
AurorusVox (3): Maenara, Shrimp85, Alduskkel
combinatorialEnigma (2): Cheery Dog, mehdi2277
Sunshine and Rainbows (1): torgonitoh
BroodKingEXE (1): Zdenek
Zdenek (1): DeasVail
Vifam (0):
Maenara (0):
Zeta (0):
Nachomamma8 (0):
xtopherusD (0):
Alduskkel (0):
DeasVail(0):
buldermar (0):
ActionDan (0):
Titan (0):
Robocopter87 (0):
mehdi2277 (0):
Phillammon (0):
torgonitoh (0):
Fate (0):
Porfervor (0):
Shrimp85 (0):
DrippingGoofball (0):
BT (0):

Not Voting (3): combinatorialEnigma, malpascp, Phillammon

14 to lynch.

Deadline is December 5th.

Searching for a replacement for combinatorialEnigma.

Malpascp is V/LA until 11/25. Titan is V/LA until 11/25.