Mafiastuck (GAME OVER TOWN WINS!)

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More emphasis.

WE ARE LYNCHING MALP TODAY.

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Unintentional but you bet it deserves a new page.

[AurorusVox]

Pfft. ActionDan, please. You can reconcile all dat.
"I am playing as well as I can" (

within the constraints set by not wanting to get NK'd

)

Now please. Can we just move on?

This game is almost 100 pages. I suck at large games with lots of players. I am a busy man. I cannot keep my eyes on all of you at once. I am therefore waiting until there are fewer of you at which point I will carpetbomb the thread with awesome reads. Until then I am sheeping Fate because:
(a) If he's town I am sheeping FateTown
(b) If he's scum he is bussing so the net result is even better

My play has not been stellar, I am not saying that. It will improve when there are less people. Until then just leave me be, I won't cause a fuss, I'll be like the old uncle who falls asleep in the armchair watching TV at Christmas and quietly snorts every six or seven minutes.

[Mehdi2277]

It's essentially I plan to shoot him to test his claim. I don't think he's likely black scum based on what the main argument for him is (and green with that power makes a doubtful scum team).

Why avox, well after malp he looks fine. Vifam gave more reasons on why before.

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Why do you believe this plan is a good idea?

[Zdenek]

Vifam how is that a contradiction? Liking someone's vote =/= liking them. If he's obviouslyscummy you could add more then two quotes that aren't even a contradiction.

It's not that it's a contradiction, it's that it makes no sense. He likes Noir's vote, but then says that he would have voted him.

malpascp, if you're still alive into Night 2, target Mehdi2277. Mehdi2277 claimed vigilante and he's going to shoot you. If your claim is true, you can stop the kill.

Just posting that since I think malpascp might only be skimming or something, and he hasn't said anything really about Mehdi's plan.

Also, I approve of the AVox wagon. Let's keep rolling with that.

Do you seriously believe that this plan is a good one, that's going to work?

Por does this feel likely:

Jailkeeper + 1 shot RB/Redirector + Jack of all trades + unknown (maybe + another unknown) doesn't look like a likely scum team to me.

Malpa to be a jailer and green scum makes it true (and if he's not green scum then for me the main part of the case was his interactions with green scum so the idea of him being green would fail).

I think this is an excellent point.

The reason for the Cheery wagon are the Noir interactions:

or at least take your vote off cheery dog since he has no other votes on him and is no worse than combinatorial or paschendale and vote paschendale instead since you called him bad. or vote combinatorial

actually cheery dog does look fucking terrible in light of mini 1368. it's like he hit his head or something

cheery dog you are so fucking bad

MAKE HER A MEMBER OF THE MIDNIGHT CREW

wow, that's all of one reason!

not to mention that it's noir interacting with cheery and not the other way around.

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VOTE: AurorusVox

malpascp is coasting big time i think though, he should die next.

how the fuck did the malpa wagon fall apart fuck you all

*hug*

Now can we lynch the Obv. Scum Zeta

Unvote
Vote: Zeta

Mehdi's plan is dumb and probably won't work for all sorts of reasons.

Mapla's been V/LA and is a claimed power-role. The role-blocking part of it is confirmable. It's not a role that scum can leave alive in the late game. If he comes back from V/LA and continues to play this way, then I'll be fine with lynching him.

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Runthrough is a go.

Avox has been generally scummy since he replaced in D1

Noir's vote is protown.

I actually think Robo might be scum

Vote: Cheery Dog

I would have voted Noir but he died.

See this? See how it doesn't make sense?????

Honestly his overall play has been incredibly scummy, just about everything he's posted has rubbed me the wrong way. Give this man to the gods.

It doesn't make sense. Why is it scummy? Scum have no reasons to leave mines like this when it doesn't DO anything otherwise. Give me one reason why BlackscumAVox would post this.

-His push on S&R

fuck man i don't know what to think about nacho about this point, his actual content leans town but his rhetoric is forced as shit. like there's nothing even implying fate's slot is town

If you continue pushing piss like this then I won't be dropping it so soon.

From what I could tell Sunshine and Rainbows wasn't even gunning for a Nacho lynch at the moment in the first place, she was just making a comment on his play. Yet Avox jumps on her/him for pushing????

-"Forgetting" Titan "claimed" scum
Self explanitory
-His appeal to Maenera

I see a list of things but I don't get it sorry.

?

I have played as well as I can. I'm playing the long game here, Maenara.

Is SAR a popular wagon or one that doesn't make sense? Hmm?
Did I get on Pasch because he was popular, or way before? Hmm?

Oh yeah, I forgot Titan scumclaimed. Thanks for reminding me. He can go die after you.

Goes from "Sorry Maenara I'm just trying my best honestly " to "haha you're next Maenara heh heh"

How does this even make sense?


... and this is honestly everything.

Let me reiterate.

It's like every other wagon choice has more backing it up. Lynch someone else. Like Maenara, or, you know, MALP.

I'll go over what Dan said again but I'm not really convinced by that either.

[ActionDan]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Malsaspc

Message to scum: Shoot AV, he's a claimed PR. Otherwise He'll claim masons with Fate on D10.

[BT]

Yeah I'm thinking half the people on this wagon are terrible for not reading the game and the other half is scum <_>

P-Edit: Dan I seriously don't see it.

[BT]

We are lynching Zdenek after this.

Just look at that last post if the reasons weren't there in EVERY POST HE MAKES by now.

[Zdenek]

We are lynching Zdenek after this.

Just look at that last post if the reasons weren't there in EVERY POST HE MAKES by now.

If they're there, then why are you still asking for them.

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I'm not asking for them? I'm saying you are scum and you keep reminding us of that fact every time you post.

[Zdenek]

I'm not asking for them? I'm saying you are scum and you keep reminding us of that fact every time you post.

Tell me what you are talking about then.

[Vifam]

Malp, Avox, whatever, they're both scummy. But if you honestly don't think Avox is not suspect at all, I honestly just dont understand you

[BT]

It's not that it's a contradiction, it's that it makes no sense. He likes Noir's vote, but then says that he would have voted him.

Oh hello it's this again. Do you sincerely think this makes any sense?

I think this is an excellent point.

This is a really out of place comment considering you oppose the plan.
Now can we lynch the Obv. Scum Zeta

Unvote
Vote: Zeta

Mapla's been V/LA and is a claimed power-role. The role-blocking part of it is confirmable. It's not a role that scum can leave alive in the late game. If he comes back from V/LA and continues to play this way, then I'll be fine with lynching him.

You never voted Malp. This sounds like he was in consideration for a while or something, despite every second comment you make is "dude made a crappy malp argument", so you're just fitting with the crowd here.

P-Edit:
1) I don't see anything that actually argues that his behavior is SCUM.
2) Pretty much every other wagon that has been mentioned today is better so I'm still baffled this took off.

[BT]

Obviously didn't mean to vote Zeta. Just in case:

VOTE: Malp)

It's not that it's a contradiction, it's that it makes no sense. He likes Noir's vote, but then says that he would have voted him.

Oh hello it's this again. Do you sincerely think this makes any sense?

I think this is an excellent point.

This is a really out of place comment considering you oppose the plan.

Now can we lynch the Obv. Scum Zeta

Unvote
Vote: Zeta

Need I say anything.

Mapla's been V/LA and is a claimed power-role. The role-blocking part of it is confirmable. It's not a role that scum can leave alive in the late game. If he comes back from V/LA and continues to play this way, then I'll be fine with lynching him.

You never voted Malp. This sounds like he was in consideration for a while or something, despite every second comment you make is "dude made a crappy malp argument", so you're just fitting with the crowd here.

P-Edit:
1) I don't see anything that actually argues that his behavior is SCUM.
2) Pretty much every other wagon that has been mentioned today is better so I'm still baffled this took off.

[Vifam]

The only other wagon is the CheeryDog wagon which is based solely on his intereactions on Noir which barely hold up, and the Malp wagon, which has only deteriorated cuz of his Jailer claim.

I honestly don't see how a CherryDog wagon is ANY better than an Avox wagon

[BT]

The only other wagon is the CheeryDog wagon which is based solely on his intereactions on Noir which barely hold up, and the Malp wagon, which has only deteriorated cuz of his Jailer claim.

It only slightly deteriorated NOW because of this dumb wagon. Do you not want to lynch Malp now?

I honestly don't see how a CherryDog wagon is ANY better than an Avox wagon

The Cheery wagon is honestly almost just as bad if only because his D2 has been alright (the wagon was decent on D1).

[BT]

FYI

The only legit reason to want to kill Avox right now is because he's suboptimal.
Just like a bunch of other players.
I don't see the scumtells.

[Vifam]

Malp is still a fine lynch, but it's been sidetracked at the minute by a few things, not just the wagon on Avox.

[Sanjay]

I'd like to wait for malp to get back more actively. I feel like his curmugeonly attitude he's recently affected seems pretty non-specific for scumminess. It seems like a pretty natural development of him not having enough time. The whole "How are you posting if you are V/LA" stuff is bogus and super non-specific.

Let him come back and say some shit.

[xtopherusD]

What happened to all the votes??

Ah well.

VOTE: AurorusVox
*baaa, baaa*


In all seriousness, this is just with keeping in mind that malpascp isn't going to get lynched and/because Mehdi has some plan (which, as I think I have said, was really strange but whatever).
And also there was actually a case here. Even though I only remember seeing, like, one contradiction brought up, it was better than the other lynch targets.


PEdit: He has said something. He's said many things.

In all caps

.
"ALL CAPS MEANS YOU THINK I'M PISSED OFF RIGHT?"

It seems like feigned anger, while really he could try to say something useful. He has said that he won't give reads because he doesn't have to. He's using the V/LA as a shield.

Besides, why do we need him to say anything right now??

[BT]

And also there was actually a case here. Even though I only remember seeing, like, one contradiction brought up, it was better than the other lynch targets.

Can you show me this case? Because I don't see a case.

If you'd check the wagons, the Malp wagon is still super viable.

[Zdenek]

This is a really out of place comment considering you oppose the plan.

No, it's not. The plan is bad because of the possibility of role interactions at night. The good point is that the bulk of the case against Malp is based on the idea that he is Green Scum aligned, Green Scum probably don't have Pandorica's role and joat and a roleblocker and the role-blocking part of his role is confirmable. So if he is scum, he is unlikely to be Green Scum, which makes a lot of the case for him being scum really questionable.

You never voted Malp. This sounds like he was in consideration for a while or something, despite every second comment you make is "dude made a crappy malp argument", so you're just fitting with the crowd here.

Look, Malp's not playing like town, but he's also been V/LA. If he keeps doing what he's been doing when he get's back, then I'll be fine with his lynch, but as things are, I wouldn't vote him. On the other hand, I do believe that the vig-plan is so bad that people who want him dead should be voting him, and not relying on night actions.

[xtopherusD]

Vifam posted a thing

Maybe it's not a case but I like to think it's better than anything else right now