The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - Summer 2024 NEW SERVER!

Xalxe · Post Post #8625 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:56 pm

TODAY IS THE BEST DAY EVER

Claus · Post Post #8626 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:45 pm

In post 8622, Maruchan wrote:
I hereby claim this island in the name of Blake/Maruchan

Sweet island! Lucky portal!

In post 8624, izakthegoomba wrote:Give it a good home. Or just have a blast griefing the shit out of the place. Hell, rip up my mountain for the cobble and dirt if you want to.

I'll lay a claim for his buildings as cultural patrimony of the server. Please don't grief them!

(go for the sweet loot, though. Gogogo!)

Klazam · Post Post #8627 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:51 pm

Well. a bit late.

Some redstone stuff was tore up.

and there's random holes and stuff.

Xalxe · Post Post #8628 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:54 pm

I deedn't do it!

izakthegoomba · Post Post #8629 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:09 pm

Oh yeah, that goes for my other houses as well - though there's not much worth the trouble in anything but the 1st or 9th and you probably shouldn't grief the shit out of the 1st, being in spawntown.

Maruchan · Post Post #8630 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:45 pm

In post 8624, izakthegoomba wrote:So, guys...

I'm leaving home. Finally. Going to live on a distant island, find myself, some shit like that. I've taken some stuff that I want with me to give myself a leg-up with a new life, but the truth is I've mostly been living out of a
suitcase
enderchest for months now. So everything I left in my base is
now free for looting by anyone who wants it
. Most of it is fairly worthless, but there's some valuable stuff too. I mean this absolutely seriously; I will not be coming back for anything more. Give it a good home. Or just have a blast griefing the shit out of the place. Hell, rip up my mountain for the cobble and dirt if you want to.

Happy looting!

mountain? where is this?

is the house in-town for grabs too?

Xalxe · Post Post #8631 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:49 pm

In post 8629, izakthegoomba wrote:Oh yeah, that goes for my other houses as well - though there's not much worth the trouble in anything but the 1st or 9th and you probably shouldn't grief the shit out of the 1st, being in spawntown.

I'd say yeah.

izakthegoomba · Post Post #8632 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:51 pm

In post 8630, Maruchan wrote:
In post 8624, izakthegoomba wrote:So, guys...

I'm leaving home. Finally. Going to live on a distant island, find myself, some shit like that. I've taken some stuff that I want with me to give myself a leg-up with a new life, but the truth is I've mostly been living out of a
suitcase
enderchest for months now. So everything I left in my base is
now free for looting by anyone who wants it
. Most of it is fairly worthless, but there's some valuable stuff too. I mean this absolutely seriously; I will not be coming back for anything more. Give it a good home. Or just have a blast griefing the shit out of the place. Hell, rip up my mountain for the cobble and dirt if you want to.

Happy looting!

mountain? where is this?

is the house in-town for grabs too?

My base is under mountain. There's a route from the hub.

And yeah.

Klazam · Post Post #8633 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:00 pm

In post 8594, Klazam wrote:There's also something VERY special in Honeyopolis.

I am announcing the Honeyopolis Beacon Team Spleef Tournament.

Who's in? You can /in as a team or /in solo. Whoever /ins for solo will be paired up randomly with other solo players to form a team. Sign ups close on Tuesday.

This spleef arena also has two VERY special twists. I will announce what they are at the beginning of the tournament.

Sign Ups:

Klazam/Maestro
Izak
Pizzadudes/Xalxe

Reposting

Maestro · Post Post #8634 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:06 pm

Oh, Maru...Maru, Maru, Maru...I already got his SpawnTown house.

Though if you want, you can check the CoreProtect logs to see what I got. It was glorious.

Maruchan · Post Post #8635 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:33 pm

I did ^

Kay guys, I have some confessing time.

Xalxe asked for transparency, and I think thats goign to be a good idea. I will be 100% transparent.

I do not think me, Xalxe, nor izak deserve to be OPs. Now since i am but 1 player, i don't speak for the community, i will not de-op Xaxle nor izak, ut I have taken the liberty of de-oping myself.

Why you may ask? WELL I WAS going to go through the entire server.log (shit spans all the way back to like, idk May) and show every example of Izak, me, and Xalxe abusing our powers, as wel las the perfectly legitimate uses. Basically, I was going to go through and find any time Xalxe, Izak, or Mrcheesete0 appeared in the logs, excluding in chat.

And I was going to do this three times, once ctrl+fing "xalxe" once ctrl+fing "izak" and once ctrl+fing "mrcheesete0"

About 30,000 Lines of logs later, with 730,000 left to go, and abotu an hour of my time, I have this much

Spoiler: Xalxe @ ~1% of the logs perused

Pretty damning stuff in there. Let me say what i know of Izak's, is just as damning, and my own, 10X more so. (yes Xalxe, I did just admit I am worse than you so don't think you can point that out yourself later)

Now if I had ~1,000 of free time, I would go through all of the logs and find every instance of izak myself and xalxe, but I don't, so I will say this. Xalxes is thus bad, izaks is about the same maybe a BIT cleaner, and mine 10X worse.

Me and izak also have a record of using X-Rays. I have somewhere i can find logs of izak logging into my server multiple times across a month span with xray installed (my modded server? yeah? It tracked every mod we used when you logged in. pretty bad ass. i wash bukkit did it)

Unfortunately, given how easy it is to succumb to the call of OP-aboose, The few people I would (personally, not saying I as the community, just my personal opinion) trust with OP are either A: already OP and MIA 90% of the time (mme, claus) or B: MIA 90% of the time.

If you all feel otherwise, and the community thinks there needs to be a new op-reign then i can gladly give them access to any Control Panel aspects they wish, op, etc. Its all really simple stuff.

I will continue to pay for the server and will do so until pretty much someone beats me black and blue demanding to pay for it themselves, and plan on placing a 3-year prepaid-payment on it around summer of 13 to guarantee it will stay open indefinitely. That was not something I think goes hand in hand with OPage, in fact I told Claus he could continue to run the server and i'd just provide the cashflow, but he told me he didn't have the time. I like I said HAVE de-op'd myself, and will stay that way for the forseeable future.

I'd also understand if you felt i deserve ze banhammah temporarily and/or permanently and would submit myself to that as well, whilst still paying the bill.

I apologize for being a shitty OP guys hope you all forgive me, goodnight sweet dreams talk to you in the mornin.
(and I apologize to Xalxe for being pretty much the only on singled out in logs, feel free to post the logs of me you got from today as well, if you feel the need, although like I already admitted, my logs are 100X worse than any of izaks or Xalxes (this is in part because the /gamemode command hides all items specifically /given unlike mine were NEI uses the /give command))

Klazam · Post Post #8636 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:39 pm

TBH, i don't know how to respond to this.

Xalxe · Post Post #8637 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:40 pm

Cute Maru. Thanks for taking this public.

I will not post your logs unless I get asked to. They involved giving items to maru, teleporting without asking, using creative mode and flying, spawning animals and the ever-popular giving his friend the ability to fly anytime he wants.

I wanted this to stay private, but you don't wanna play that way. If people want, I'll explain every part of that log (most of which are entirely benign), but I'm not going to turn this into a he-said-he-said bitchfest like I could.

ISO · Post Post #8638 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:41 pm

It's time for the megalomaniac reign of Bone to begin! Because the only command I abuse is /home, and truthfully am too lazy to learn how to abuse anything else.

TREMBLE BENEATH BONE

Maruchan · Post Post #8639 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:42 pm

In post 8637, Xalxe wrote:the ever-popular giving his friend the ability to fly anytime he wants.

i just want to point out that i was testing permissions, which actually don't work

try the command in game yourself, it says "unknown command". he just happened to be the guy on when i was testing.

ISO · Post Post #8640 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:43 pm

But seriously, whoever is in trusted with keeping order on the server just needs to keep their hands off the Op-command list, that's all.

Maruchan · Post Post #8641 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:43 pm

In post 8638, T-Bone wrote:It's time for the megalomaniac reign of Bone to begin! Because the only command I abuse is /home, and truthfully am too lazy to learn how to abuse anything else.

TREMBLE BENEATH BONE

you were on my list of people ifelt could handle it.

but you fell in category B

Xalxe · Post Post #8642 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:43 pm

In post 8639, Maruchan wrote:
In post 8637, Xalxe wrote:the ever-popular giving his friend the ability to fly anytime he wants.

i just want to point out that i was testing permissions, which actually don't work

try the command in game yourself, it says "unknown command". he just happened to be the guy on when i was testing.

Ah, yes, I buy this. No, wait, sorry, there was at least one, maybe two others on.

Chevre · Post Post #8643 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:48 pm

Maybe I didn't look at it thoroughly enough, but the one problem I have is the enchanting. Personally, I think anyone who would be able to give themselves that power is going to indulge a little.

It's really great of you guys to confess, and it shows how great our community is. From what I see it isn't too terrible (Like if Pizza wasn't Xalxe's brother, I'd guess that would be a little sketchy), and you decided to tell us. MafiaScum is lucky to have a server where there aren't any crazy "pay to mine this diamond" schemes or ranks of any sort. Except for that blip of the chest thievery earlier this year (NEVER FORGET) and chesskid's hijinx, we've done pretty well.

I would volunteer to be OP, but a) I am unavailable quite often, b) I think I would be like "oh if I fly for just like 10 secs no one will know or care," and c) I really don't have the knowledge I think to do it.

I don't know how other's will react, but I'm pretty okay with this, just don't ever ever ever cheat again, okay?

P.S. I was really disappointed when this wasn't a solution to the chest thieveries. Even though I wasn't affected, I'm just really hung up on that. ;P

PEDIT: Obviously it looks like I'm really naive and this is getting kind of messy. A shame really

Xalxe · Post Post #8644 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:50 pm

In post 8643, Chevre wrote:Maybe I didn't look at it thoroughly enough, but the one problem I have is the enchanting. Personally, I think anyone who would be able to give themselves that power is going to indulge a little.

IIRC, I enchanted once, to replace a sword I lost to a glitch. Didn't even get the same levels of enchants :/ Other than that I enchant using a table like everyone else.

EDIT: Oh, the kick was a joke, he logged right back on (and izak kicked me in retribution). Just messing with him.

Hiraki · Post Post #8645 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:02 pm

while the capitilists squabble over these petty differences

communism rises

kekekekekekekekeke

Edit: (translation from hirakian to english)

Why yes, Maruchan! I'd be honored with mod powers!

Om of the Nom · Post Post #8646 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:06 pm

In post 8637, Xalxe wrote:I will not post your logs unless I get asked to.

Now I'm interested.

I'd volunteer to be OP, I'm always available every day at some point in the day if I'm needed and I wouldn't abuse OP powers (except maybe fly but that's because I'm lazy :P).

Maestro · Post Post #8647 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:08 pm

@Xalxe: You were good till you started turning this into the very bitchfest that you said would not transpire. Obviously we can't be too happy about either of you when we see the "/enchants" in your logs, but I honestly care more that at this point a private matter is being made public for the sake of drama. (See below about OP's and shit.)

@Maru: While I respect you confessing to us yourself, I'm guessing there was already a confrontation between you and Xalxe and that he threatened action even if you didn't out yourself, so it's not entirely honorable and it seems like you're purposefully putting this issue in the open to fuel drama when really it should be an OP debate.

I will not take sides, and I will say (as I said on-server) that in my opinion the quality of an OP is not in whether they abuse or do not abuse whatever powers they are given. It is in how they help the server and how they interact with the users. I am more frustrated that the OP's lie about being "true vanilla" or whatever-our-server-is-supposed-to-be, while using cheaty OP commands behind the backs of the users. If you're testing something, be up front about it - especially to your fellow OP's. I'm sure if you'd just posted in-thread about a test of permission on the server it would've resolved at least that one issue a whole lot more peaceably. And isn't the thread for communication between members? Some of us use flying, and gamemoding, and X-Rays in SSP, but I've never even thought about leaving Elian's Detector Mod on when I log onto the server. Just be up front about things, or resist the temptation. If you're going to be an OP who spams commands...then at least don't pretend to be like the rest of us.

P-Edit @Chevre: I don't really understand the need for any more OP's. I would love to volunteer but 1) They'd never have me. 2) Apparently being an OP requires less than 10 hours of on-time a week, and sue me if I like the server that much. 3) I have always felt (ever since Xalxe implied as much) that 2 OP's is enough. 4) izak and Xalxe (and Maru, for that matter) were quite attentive to the needs of our server and that is why I feel they can and should remain our OP's, regardless of cheating.

In other words, I would like to second Chevre's request to have Maru remain if he can promise us that the abuses will stop, because like I said, that's not even a big deal to me. Who made sure the server got updated as soon as Bukkit went into 1.4.2 Dev Builds? Maru. Who is

PAYING

for the server to continue in operation? Maru. Yes, I realize it's not much but still. It's money, and how many of us can say we would be willing to do that all the time? I love the server, but I have my own needs and I only get paid so much, especially when I'm in theatrical productions. It's great to just know that it'll be taken care of. That's what I mean when I think about how an OP interacts with the server and the people. Chevre's right, we have a great community.

Spoiler: tl:dr

Maruchan · Post Post #8648 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:10 pm

In post 8647, Maestro wrote:@Maru: While I respect you confessing to us yourself, I'm guessing there was already a confrontation between you and Xalxe and that he threatened action even if you didn't out yourself, so it's not entirely honorable and it seems like you're purposefully putting this issue in the open to fuel drama when really it should be an OP debate.

Why yes I was given an ultimatum if i didn't go as snowwhite as Xalxe! Ultimatums make me do crazy things, i hate them so much. they remind me of my bitch of a mother.

In post 8647, Maestro wrote:Bukkit went into 1.4.2 Dev Builds?

That reminds me i need to go check on bukkit's status.

ISO · Post Post #8649 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:10 pm

Need a new OP. Need me.

Also, X-ray is a no-no for our server. Can't believe that's come up again.

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