First of all, sorry for my absence guys, the past few weeks have been absolute hell for me.
That said, here are my thoughts on D2 thusfar (as always, they are partially stream of
consciouness; also I should note that I'm running on three hours of sleep in the past 48, so
this may very well be garbled gibberish):
Of my scumreads from yesterday, Sherlock, Abaddon/Thor, Kinetic, Slandaar, and Trollie are
still alive (you're right, Trollie, Tommy does appear to be dead).
As I've said before, Trollie is definitely not scum. He is not necessarily town, but we can
deal with that later. I think it would be good for the town to vote on who they think Trollie
should kill (I.E. treat it as a second lynch). At this point even if Trollie is a SK he will
want to kill mafia.
Slandaar is active lurking like always. His utter uselessness makes me sad. Like an onion
made of sadness.
Thor hasn't really posted any dramatic arguments so far, but it's only been a few days. I
also have difficulty with his jokes (for example, did you actually not read the thread, Thor,
or was that a joke?), but that's obviously not scummy. I think I'm just going to wait and
watch more of his play. Or at least wait until I can examine his play in the context of
Abaddon's play. I would like to point out though that he's right, nobody has made an argument
about Thor's actual play since he replaced in. They just want to go after him for his slot.
That's fine and all, Abaddon was scummy, but you can't really say Thor's deflecting anything
when nothing has been firmly said against him.
Sherlock is most likely not scum, almost completely due to Trollie's claim that he isn't one-
shot. The only way I can see for Sherlock to still be scum is if he had just decided to
protect Trollie for some reason or another (maybe just to irritate the town or something).
Even then though, it would not make sense for him to be against Trollie shooting on N1 (unless
that was just a front, but then things are getting way too convoluted; he'd have to be faking
opposition to something that would directly benefit him and was being actively supported by
the town, all to build town props somehow). I think Sherlock is best left alone for now. If
he is scum, he is either a complete genius or a complete lunatic.
Kwll's play is still completely unreadable to me, as any new guy's play is. I am still ok
with using him as a last resort for lynch, because as I've said before, we absolutely do not
want him around in LYLO. I'd actually appreciate it if Trollie killed him, unless there's a
clearly better option.
Kinetic appears to have gotten into a big old slapfight with toxic. Isn't this, like, the
fifth one of these toxic's been in this game?. I get the feeling that toxic is kind of like
how I used to be, back when I got into arguments over ridiculous little things that lasted for
ages. Anyway, I agree that regardless of whether Kinetic was correct in his read of toxic, he
should have had his vote on toxic if that was his strongest scumread. I don't think it's
necessarily scummy, because he hadn't caught all the way up, but it is still something to
consider. Then later he votes Thor after getting into his big thing with toxic, saying that
he was really waiting for his other major scumread to pop back in.
W...
why?
That's just... odd. I can't imagine any sort of town reason for doing that.
If you've got two scumreads and you don't want to vote for one of them just yet for some
reason,
vote for the other one, dummy.
This leaves me with Kinetic, Slandaar, and kwll. Of these, Kinetic and Slandaar are my two
main picks. I just got out of a game where the last two scum were lurkers, so I may be a bit
paranoid about it, but I just don't like Slandaar's blatant active lurking. Then again,
Kinetic has been actively scummy, and since I didn't really like his slot anyway,
Vote Kinetic
That may change when I get to do my reread thing, but I doubt it.
Now to respond to a few things specifically addressed to me:
Not really. There wasn't very much discussion beyond roleclaiming and the
Trollie/Sherlock/Cheery scumteam thing. I mentioned it, but Jacob didn't really say anything
about it (I doubleposted with the second and much longer post being about the roleclaiming
thing). I basically decided that the best way to see if Jacob was town was to have us claim
neighbors and see if there was another neighborhood. Since nobody's mentioned anything I'm
going to assume we are the only one, and the mod would have to be a bit of a jerk to have only
one 2-person neighborhood with one of them being scum.
Also, toxic, for future reference, you may just want to drop the whole reaction test thing.
You may have had good intentions and whatnot, and it may be useful somehow, but it's
controversial as hell, and if it worked how you intended we shouldn't still be having big
arguments about it. As for my opinion about it, I still don't understand what exactly it's
meant to achieve, since it relies on an assumption that I don't agree with ("scum would be
less likely to jump on bad play than townies", or at least that's my closest estimation of the
point of the reaction test). But at this point I'm just sick and tired of hearing about it.
It makes my head hurt to even read the words reaction test. Nor do I really see any point in
Kinetic or toxic caring about my opinion of the thing. It's more like Kinetic and toxic are
just trying to win arguments rather than catch scum, digging themselves deeper into a pit of
stupid that will be impossible to crawl out of. I've been in a lot of holes like that, I know
what it looks like.
As I said, I do intend to go back and re-examine the whole thread, so I will be also
reevaluating the rest of the players. For now though, I cast my net wide enough yesterday to
have caught at least one scum. If not I need to lynch my town reads from now on.
