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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:53 pm

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Votecount 4.6


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- Equinox, IceGuy, N, Konowa, CF Riot


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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:57 pm

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Okay so your plan: 4:2, no lynch -> 3:2.
Pro: We have 1 less target.
Pro?: We get an extra NK to analyze. (So far no one has mentioned this helping but you, and you haven't actually told any of the rest of us how it's helped.)
Con: We can pretty reasonably predict they are going to be one of the less scummy players of the bunch if we give scum any credit at all.
Con: Plus this drops the ratio of townvotes to scum votes required for the lynch.
Con: Plus we now have 0 room for error because we cannot mislynch again.

My plan: 4:2, nut up and lynch scum -> 4:1
Pro: Town to scum ratio on D2 is more favorable for town.
Pro: Town to scum ratio on D3 after a successful lynch is much more favorable for town.
Pro: If a mislynch happens D2, there's still a small window of opportunity for scum to punt and town to make a comeback.
Pro: If a mislynch happens D3 after succesful D2, it's not game over.
Con: There is one more innocent suspect town must avoid lynching.
Con?: Limited NK info.

Digest this and be whole again. Brb, cancer.
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:35 am

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Unless somebody tells me not to, I will vote Equinox in approximately 10 hours from now.
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:44 am

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In post 402, IceGuy wrote:Unless somebody tells me not to, I will vote Equinox in approximately 10 hours from now.

Vote: IceGuy
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:58 am

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In post 401, CF Riot wrote:(So far no one has mentioned this helping but you, and you haven't actually told any of the rest of us how it's helped.)

Nobody else besides Konowa has volunteered to go back into the thread to look at this, which is a curious thing in itself. Don't worry, it's there.

In post 401, CF Riot wrote:Pro: We have 1 less target.
Con: Plus this drops the ratio of townvotes to scum votes required for the lynch.

Counter: You have one more target and thus a greater margin of error. I don't know about you -- or maybe I do -- but there was no one we could agree on being town.

In post 401, CF Riot wrote:Con: Plus we now have 0 room for error because we cannot mislynch again.

Oh my god.

We couldn't fucking mislynch in the first place!


Look at you. You're calling
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You lose the game.


Scum had a chance to shoot me with my plan and get rid of that. Just turns out they didn't and I have to deal with the goddamned Hulk.

In post 401, CF Riot wrote:My plan: 4:2, nut up and lynch scum -> 4:1
Pro: Town to scum ratio on D2 is more favorable for town.
Pro: Town to scum ratio on D3 after a successful lynch is much more favorable for town.
Pro: If a mislynch happens D2, there's still a small window of opportunity for scum to punt and town to make a comeback.
Pro: If a mislynch happens D3 after succesful D2, it's not game over.
Con: There is one more innocent suspect town must avoid lynching.

Again, you are assuming that you are going to succeed
the first time around
. Considering the state of the game at the time, what do you think that was?

In post 401, CF Riot wrote:Con?: Limited NK info.

Your problem, not mine.

Anyway thanks for arguing but my god if I could bash your head in and not throw the game for it, I totally would.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:02 am

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Now I'm scum again? You're flip-flopping all over the place.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:03 am

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In post 405, IceGuy wrote:Now I'm scum again? You're flip-flopping all over the place.

You always were. I was just stupid for a moment.

Our little game of chicken is over, boy. Slap a vote down and let's get this over with.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:40 am

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Just remembered something.

CF Riot, you keep harping on 4:2 MyLo being a bad time to No Lynch, yet you have no problem arguing that 3:1 MyLo is a time where we have to No Lynch and thus this is how we lose our mislynch.

Think about that for a second and you'll see where I was coming from with not lynching on Day 2.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:04 pm

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Still waiting for the NK analysis. Still.





Still.
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:13 pm

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I'm pretty confident of IG/Equinox. Will vote soon.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:56 pm

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In post 408, CF Riot wrote:Still waiting for the NK analysis. Still.

I'm sorry. Another patron has already checked out
NK Analysis
. Shall I put a hold on it for you?

You are not getting it just because you jump up and down and cry for it. It will come when I say it will. Deal with it.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:03 pm

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If you haven't noticed, I don't really care when you post it, if ever. I'm just pointing out your continued feet dragging to the other players to help them see what I see.
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:27 pm

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In post 411, CF Riot wrote:If you haven't noticed, I don't really care when you post it, if ever. I'm just pointing out your continued feet dragging to the other players to help them see what I see.

Voting might help.
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:30 pm

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CF Riot's whining is getting rather annoying, so I'mma speed this along instead of waiting for it to happen naturally.

Hey, N. Read of IceGuy, go.
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:39 pm

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In post 9, petapan wrote:
In post 5, mykonian wrote:hello.

Peta, are you scum?

no stop trying to coordinate your nightkill

VOTE: mykonian

In post 5, mykonian wrote:hello.

Peta, are you scum?

In post 21, mykonian wrote:
In post 9, petapan wrote:
In post 5, mykonian wrote:hello.

Peta, are you scum?

no stop trying to coordinate your nightkill

VOTE: mykonian


Like I would need this.

vote Peta

In post 38, mykonian wrote:it's peta this time guys.

Deas is innocent.

In post 48, mykonian wrote:
In post 44, Equinox wrote:
In post 38, mykonian wrote:it's peta this time guys.

Deas is innocent.

How do you figure this?


Peta is off and I count on deas.

In post 59, mykonian wrote:
In post 49, Malakittens wrote:Yes, in clueless micro.


Shoot. That scares me, completely forgot about that game. Had to reread it to remember what happened.

vote konowa


Peta, bussing is allowed. Go for it!

In post 186, mykonian wrote:Just because you don't want to be convinced.

I'll wait it out, don't you worry about it. 3 days and Equinox isn't going to get lynched. Because he's not scum.

You know what you could do? Vote peta.

IceGuy's wagon day 1 happened too fast to be all town.
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:40 pm

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Fuck. I didn't mean to do that. I was going through day 1, looking for who might be trying to telegraph a peta kill and saw those posts from mykonian, but then I realised mykonian was dead so I wasn't going to post them.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:03 pm

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If IceGuy tried to telegraph anything about peta, it was by putting votes out there with no reasoning - that's where his vote was at the end of the day.

All there is from Equinox is this post:
In post 303, Equinox wrote:Definitely not lynching petapan, though; pretty sure he's town now.


Konowa really only mentioned peta once, to vote for him in RVS - I guess it's possible he could be setting it up really early?
In post 13, Konowa wrote:
Vote: petapan

How'd you reach that?


CF Riot mentioned peta a few times, usually in one-liner posts
In post 176, CF Riot wrote:DV what's your read on Konowa and Peta?
In post 210, CF Riot wrote:
vote: peta


I challenge anyone to point to something that gives them a townread on Peta.
In post 290, CF Riot wrote:I'm just posting to say I read Peta's tantrum but I'm still alright with my vote.
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:32 pm

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This game.

Quick post and then I'm ignoring this game for a while to cool off.

If you're so convinced that absolutely nothing from me is going to change your mind, don't bother with the pissing contest. Vote me and get it over with because, hell, you can't possibly be wrong and so I can't possibly get hammered on your watch.

Just don't sit there and call me scum all day and do sweet fuck all about it, though, because then you're not being productive but being an asshat.

Once N has finished picking the thread to death, go back and look at his posts, specifically the ones where he refers to petapan and DeasVail, the former referring to a town read (I think, not going to bother going back to check) and the latter referring to DeasVail "lynching himself" (paraphrase, yadda yadda). I was hoping to see him react to IceGuy votes on his own, but right now all I'm thinking about is how to not get modkilled for incivility so you lot can deal with that yourself. Add that his read of me is fairly weak -- he called DeasVail scum for asking questions and not following up, but he does not do the same to me when that's the same thing I've done for a large part of the game.

And look at IceGuy continue to react in no meaningful way to anything of significance while inching his way to the bandwagon that's going to win him the game.

Don't bother lynching CF Riot or Konowa. CF Riot is aggravating as all hell, but he's not scum, especially after Micro 19 where he was pretty much dead fish. Konowa's paranoia at the beginning of Day 4 feels genuine. Also, there's nothing from him that tripped any flags when I checked him in isolation, so he and IceGuy don't work as a pair anyhow.

Peace out.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:05 pm

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Votecount 4.7


(1)
IceGuy
- Equinox

(4)
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(Equinox,)
IceGuy, N, Konowa, CF Riot


With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:17 pm

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VOTE: Equinox
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:34 pm

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Out of IceGuy and Equinox, I'd rather lynch Equinox. Not very confident, though.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:37 pm

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Vote: Equinox


Go for it N.
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:37 pm

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Not right now.
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:38 pm

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Why not?
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:39 pm

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In post 420, N wrote:Not very confident, though.
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