Mini 1390: Game Over


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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:52 pm

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In post 1446, TheTrollie wrote:IDIOTKING

i do not get you. i really dont.

STOP SAYING "oh we will figure that out once slandaar is gone.

(1) once slandaar is gone we dont get to see him post. that means we cant see how he interacts with other ppl during this intense 1 v. 1 with sherlock


Are you honestly pretending that Slandaar will suddenly start posting? I mean, one of the main reasons people suspected him to begin with was that he's comically lurky.


(2) if slandaar is town, and i CANNOT KILL SHERLOCK, as i was unable to kill him last night, the GAME IS OVER


That supposes that the same thing will happen tonight that happened last night. Since we still have no evidence of a roleblocker, and a protective role died last night, that seems very unlikely.


why dont u see that?!?!


Because I'm not in goddamn freakout mode. I'm looking at things rationally, unlike you apparently. Sure, we may lose if we screw up,
but that is going to be true regardless of what we do today.
You're hardcore AtE'ing, and that's exactly the kind of breakdown we do NOT need right now.

Also, you
just lied
to us about who you targeted last night when you said you targeted Slandaar.
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:53 pm

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In post 1449, TheTrollie wrote:
Wanna hear my theory? Either there is a RB or...

Sherlock is a godfather, he comes in claiming cop. He says he wants to wait to see if anyone counterclaims. If someone counters, he can say, ok ok fine I was just reaction testing. We dont believe him. He says, "have counterclaimer investigate me tonight to prove im tellin truth" then tomorrow when cop reports inno sherlock is safe. OR no-one counterclaims, and he gets to say YADAYADA I'm a big boy cop.


This is literally the most retarded thing I have ever heard.
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:55 pm

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Vote Count 3.3
Slandaar (2): _Sherlock_, Idiotking

_Sherlock_ (1): Slandaar

Not Voting(5): toxictaipan, kwll, TheTrollie, JacobSavage, Konowa

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
Deadline is in
(expired on 2012-12-26 19:40:00)
Last edited by nhammen on Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:59 pm

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In post 1450, Idiotking wrote:Also, you just lied to us about who you targeted last night when you said you targeted Slandaar.


yeah cause i knew something was up with sherlock after his claim
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:01 pm

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slandaar will post, yes, if not he will be replaced eventually. dont say he wont post
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:04 pm

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Ok, he'll make posts, but they will be utterly worthless, as have the rest of his posts ever. His MO has been to stay in the background, and even now when he's one of the major topics of discussion today, he's in the background. Consider that.
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:06 pm

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Yes Trollie, I'm avoiding the other possibility that involves me being scum.

I laughed when Idiotking said what I was thinking after flipping from Page 58 to 59.

Just to clarify something to Slandaar/Trollie/Konowa if you haven't looked it up yourself yet: Klick is my new account for kondi2424.
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:07 pm

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@Trollie: I'm confused as to why you're so determined to twist everything to make Sherlock look scummy and leave Slandaar alive. You keep going on about "moar discussion", but everything you've ever said so far has been an attempt to twist things to make Sherlock look scummy,
when you actually have better reason than anyone to believe he's town, since nobody claimed a roleblocker, you yourself proposed that mafia roleblocker would have blocked Thor, and Sherlock survived you shooting him.
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:17 pm

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In post 1456, _Sherlock_ wrote:Yes Trollie, I'm avoiding the other possibility that involves me being scum.

I laughed when Idiotking said what I was thinking after flipping from Page 58 to 59.

Just to clarify something to Slandaar/Trollie/Konowa if you haven't looked it up yourself yet: Klick is my new account for
kondi2424.


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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:18 pm

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no, the fact that he didnt die makes him scum.

there is no chance Thor protected him. there is also no chance mafia shot him.

LIKE WHA! how is that possible, that ALL THREE OF US (THOR, TROLLIE, MAFIA) targeted sherlock?
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:22 pm

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So Trollie, are you like trying to make fallacies now? First appeals to emotion, now confirmation bias, what next, fighting strawmen?
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:23 pm

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So what this tells me is that even if we lynch Slandaar and he flips scum, Trollie's just going to shoot Sherlock anyway, because he's got a hardon for Sherlockscum. Ok.

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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:28 pm

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@Trollie: Here's a possibility:

Thor sees me as town, wants to protect me from the NK because I may get killed if the Mafia think he's on Trollie (or, he's protecting me from Trollie - less likely). Mafia shoots me because there's not really any other overarching townread besides Idiot, and there's Neighbor WIFOM there.

I personally find it a coincidence that the Mod made the Bodyguard to protect from all kills, and last night happened to have a missing kill and at least one person shooting me. If Slandaar is town, the Mafia certainly didn't shoot him.
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:30 pm

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and AS YOU SAID, the bps in this game will be scum, not town most likely.

maybe slandaar is scum too, but i cant let u guys lynch him and hope that ur terrible, short-term plan works. what if all mafia members are 1 shot bp to balance out power. or if they have a 1-shot group bp or something.

idiot, you are the one subject to confirmation bias here.

Think about this. YOU are the one accepting a preposterous explanation for what happened last night:

You are saying thor protected sherlock, who was really not in danger of being NK'd and also who THOR WOULD NEVER HAVE LET LIVE OVER JUST NOT PROTECTING ANYBODY AND SAVING HIMSELF.

and that Mafia shot SHERLOCK when they could have easily shot me (a threatening power role). also sherlocks hopping all over the place made him a potential lynch target for today

p-edit: what do u mean about slandaar?

Here's what I think happened:
Mafia shoots me, because they know town will never lynch me because i am no threat to them right now, and that Thor will be an easy lynch target tomorrow.

Thor protects me because DUHHHHHH

I shoot Sherlock who should have died. But he didn't.

U are the one with the confirmation bias. Use ur head, it is not a big mystery about how thor died last night.
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:32 pm

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Okay he's my plan. Everyone invite then go, don't post here for 36 hours.
Calm down, stop being emotional. When you have done that go through and analyse every possibly cause of action.
Think things through re-read the thread look into players meta (I have one alt "Fe" it has a completed scum game look at it if you like)
There's no point in getting all worked up, this is the time for reasoned judgements not getting ourselves wrapped up with fear and worry that we can't act effectively.
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:32 pm

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EWODP: Unvote
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:33 pm

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i want to know what sherlock meant by the slandaar NK
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:35 pm

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Y'know, 'cuz he's scummy.
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:39 pm

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so u think mafia shot somewhere else? i dont get it. i literally dont get what
In post 1462, _Sherlock_ wrote:I personally find it a coincidence that the Mod made the Bodyguard to protect from all kills, and last night happened to have a missing kill and at least one person shooting me. If Slandaar is town, the Mafia certainly didn't shoot him.

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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:42 pm

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I'm implying that Thor saved me from both kills...
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:44 pm

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do u not get how that doesnt make any sense?

I call scumslip

town-sherlock says "mafia didn't shoot him cause hes scum" i dont get why u even said anything about slandaar.

why wouldn't they shoot me, or idiotking?
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:45 pm

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Let me try to hammer this out one more time:

Either you were roleblocked, or Thor protected Sherlock.

We have
no fucking evidence
that there is a roleblocker
for either alignment.
This is all speculation you've pulled
straight out of your ass.
Since you don't think that there's a mafia roleblocker, you think that there may be a town roleblocker
EVEN THOUGH NO ONE CLAIMED IT AND WOULD HAVE NO REASON TO HIDE IT AT THIS POINT
. You are automatically assuming Sherlock HAS to be scum
because you're not even considering the possibility that Thor (THE ONLY PERSON WHO CLAIMED ANY ABILITY TO BLOCK YOU) protected Sherlock.


If we lose the game because of you I'm going to die.


In post 1463, TheTrollie wrote:and AS YOU SAID, the bps in this game will be scum, not town most likely.

maybe slandaar is scum too, but i cant let u guys lynch him and hope that ur terrible, short-term plan works. what if all mafia members are 1 shot bp to balance out power. or if they have a 1-shot group bp or something.


Both of those suggestions are laughably overpowered, and the Mod should be lynched if that's the case. It would completely kill the worth of a vig,
and is completely fucking unheard of
. That's not the sort of thing that would ever be put into a normal game,
ever
.


idiot, you are the one subject to confirmation bias here.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


You are saying thor protected sherlock, who was really not in danger of being NK'd and also who THOR WOULD NEVER HAVE LET LIVE OVER JUST NOT PROTECTING ANYBODY AND SAVING HIMSELF.

and that Mafia shot SHERLOCK when they could have easily shot me (a threatening power role). also sherlocks hopping all over the place made him a potential lynch target for today


If, if, if, maybe, maybe, maybe. Again, all idle speculation you've pulled out of your ass. Shall I counter?

Scum wouldn't have shot you, because there was reason to believe you would have shot Thor. Scum also didn't know that Thor's role guaranteed that whoever he protected would live even if Thor himself was targeted. Thus, scum wouldn't have targeted you, because they'd have figured you'd be killing a townie. Thor wouldn't have held off on using his PR,
because he's not a damned coward
. Not very many people actually voiced scumreads on Sherlock yesterday, so scum wouldn't necessarily be sure if he'd be lynched today. Thus, he's a possible target for them.

I suppose I was right, you really did go after a strawman argument. It's not confirmation bias on my part. I know it's possible that I'm wrong. I'm going based on probability, and my understanding
based on available evidence
is that Thor was riddled with holes last night.


p-edit: what do u mean about slandaar?

Here's what I think happened:
Mafia shoots me, because they know town will never lynch me because i am no threat to them right now, and that Thor will be an easy lynch target tomorrow.

Thor protects me because DUHHHHHH

I shoot Sherlock who should have died. But he didn't.

U are the one with the confirmation bias. Use ur head, it is not a big mystery about how thor died last night.


Are you saying that you don't have confirmation bias, when you've basically said Sherlock
has
to be scum, because there is no other possible solution than Thor protected you because you're God's gift to the human race?

YOUR RETARDED SPECULATION ABOUT BULLETPROOF NIETZSCHEAN UBERSCUM IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE SHERLOCK IS SCUM.
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:48 pm

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Basically my beef with you is this:

I'm going on evidence presented in-game.
You are going on speculation, leading you to conclude things that are both ridiculous and completely unbalanced. I could just as easily speculate that scum have
two
NKers and that you're scum. But that would be stupid, just like all of your ideas.
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:51 pm

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Idiot, i get that u are town. pls shut up no. kthnx
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:51 pm

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I mean, you're really grasping at straws in your speculations about what happened last night. You're saying that Thor
had
to have protected you, but you argue against my theory by saying that
Thor might not have protected anyone
(which I might add is impossible according to the Mod's randomized rule). You can't keep your story straight at all.

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