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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:21 pm

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Explain vi being town, rofl.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:21 pm

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explain why you chose to question the vi townread and not the other two
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:23 pm

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Since I town read emp and while I'm more on tammy I don't really suspect her. I do suspect vi.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:24 pm

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*more meh
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:29 pm

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Lastly, Tammy do you think the entire wagon on Empire was town? I don't which is why I'm using it as a starting place and MoI before his v/la was commenting more while I find the way SAD voted to be pretty genuine. I kind of ignored your vote since I didn't really have a way to analyze it.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:40 pm

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You shouldn't have any way to analyze my post. It was as neutral as it comes. I planned that post...as long as the game started on the day it did before I got my role pm.

But what I have a problem with mehdi is you scum reading a wagon that you were on. Correct me if I'm wrong. Your vote on empire was for a serious reason? And then you started scum reading his wagon. That reads really off to me. You're saying, I voted him for a valid reason (and for me actually was a horrible reason) but then scum read his wagon? And chose actually someone who had a valid reason to scum read? You are going to have to read that slowly to,me because your reasoning sounds like crap.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:42 pm

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5 votes on someone I think is town. I think at least one is likely from scum. I suspect joh most on that wagon. I vote joh. Sure it isn't always going to work, but usually a wagon that size will have at least one mafia.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:44 pm

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And as for I voted emp that doesn't really change my mind on it. The idea that if I'm voting someone all the other votes on him must be town is dumb. I think I was wrong on emp, so I swapped and looked at the wagon.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:48 pm

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In post 133, Mehdi2277 wrote:And as for I voted emp that doesn't really change my mind on it. The idea that if I'm voting someone all the other votes on him must be town is dumb. I think I was wrong on emp, so I swapped and looked at the wagon.


You know what's weird is that you thought the votes on Empire were bad even before you put down yours, so why did you even vote him in the first place?

And yeah, Tammy's town.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:54 pm

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In post 133, Mehdi2277 wrote:And as for I voted emp that doesn't really change my mind on it. The idea that if I'm voting someone all the other votes on him must be town is dumb. I think I was wrong on emp, so I swapped and looked at the wagon.


I just don't follow medhi. You thought you had a good reason for voting empire? Correct? Then you decided you didn't...so you started scum reading the wagon before the people voting before you. It just doesn't make sense to me that you would decide to unvote from a wagon and go oh this person was the scummiest person
on the wagon I was just voting on
. And why Johhog, when he actually had the best reason of anyone on that wagon?
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:02 pm

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In post 134, SnowStorm wrote:
In post 133, Mehdi2277 wrote:And as for I voted emp that doesn't really change my mind on it. The idea that if I'm voting someone all the other votes on him must be town is dumb. I think I was wrong on emp, so I swapped and looked at the wagon.


You know what's weird is that you thought the votes on Empire were bad even before you put down yours, so why did you even vote him in the first place?

And yeah, Tammy's town.

Since I had a different reason then one given before which I already said. I found the fact emp wasn't explaining first when I was used to him walling from the beginning to be a bit strange and voted him.

And tammy I think joh's reason sucks. I think the idea of pushing an easy lynch near the beginning of the game is a weak reason similar to how quick lynching rarely ever happens.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:24 pm

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I agree that Tammy is probably town.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:28 pm

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Wait, so you're saying, you voting him because he didn't give a bunch of reasons or wall for a vote on like page two was not scummy, but then when you changed your mind, you decided to scum read a wagon of people of people who voted before you and didn't have a chance to re-evaluate their stance even though as I said, Johhog's reasoning was actually more valid that yours?

What about Johhog's reasoning sucks? I think he's wrong, for instance, but I think his reasoning is solid. For instance, look back at marketplace, who did MoI read as scum in his first post? Each of them were semi-easy targets. It is pretty common for scum to go after easy targets first, so it makes complete sense for someone to wonder if someone is going after NS (an easy target) as scum. And an easy target really has nothing to do with quick lynching so I don't know why you're confusing the issue.

Also, I have a real problem with you not just admitting that part of your reason for voting johhog was bs. the fact is he wasn't ignoring you and didn't post after post 35, for which you partially voted him. There's no reason for you to accept that that you misstepped there. And why you won't is really odd.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:07 am

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Medhi 124 wrote:AA is town because if you've caught up to emp's paragraph on it then that explains it best.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:22 am

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Prodding Ser Arthur Dayne

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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:08 am

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The rumours of the hauntings of the Western Tower come since the early history of the castle. The tower was the first habitated part of the building. It is rumoured that xRECKONERx, the sixth son of the first Lord to hold ownership, was mad and concealed to the upper rooms of the tower. His screams of confusion were reported by the inhabitants of the Castle even long after his death. There are many entries in the old castle journals of the voice of a young man yelling
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Day 1, Votecount 5

Mehdi2277 (5): SnowStorm, Vi, Johhog, Tammy, roflcopter

Empire (2): Ser Arthur Dayne, MagnaOfIllusion
Johhog (2): Mehdi2277, Baby Spice
ArcAngel9 (1): Konowa
Konowa (1): Nobody Special
Nobody Special (1): Empire
Vi (1): Maestro

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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:48 am

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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:42 am

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I shall get to this game some time today my lovelies.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:44 am

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Okay, first of all.

unvote;
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Explain how using the reactions of not only ArcAngel, but of other people regarding ArcAngel, to determine alignment make me scum. The fact that you come in -on page one- and tell ArcAngel, who appears new to the site, to not worry about a page one three vote wagon on her is incredibly scummy to me. You’ve played plenty of games by now I’m sure that reactions to said wagons help catch scum in awkward situations early on. I’m sure you remember your own awkward response in Rarefaction? As town, you should know this. By telling ArcAngel to not worry, it appears if you are trying to limit damage preemptively.

In post 110, Mehdi2277 wrote:B. Primarily let's look at the empire wagon. It consists of him, SAD who actually really pushes it, me, Tammy's rvs vote, and Magna who's also said other things and asked some questions.
Of those 5 I find him worst and since I think emp is town I'm expecting at least one of the votes to be from scum.

This is awful reasoning.

Mehdi’s response to the whole NS situation trying to explain it away as NS thinking not nice equal scum and NS’ lack of response to it comes across as very much scum/scum interaction.

I want to snipe the thread and call a ArcAngel/NS/Mehdi scum team given the interactions, but that seems too neat.
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:49 am

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Mmm empiretown.

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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:52 am

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Forgot about the short deadlines in this game. Stating intent to put him at L-1.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:53 am

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Konowa are you scum?
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:54 am

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Nope. But while we are here, can you explain your change in thought on Empire?
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:55 am

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Wait why are you voting NS in the first place rather than Mehdi if lolwagon on the latter? Because if mehdi comes up town you're eating rope.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:55 am

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In post 148, Konowa wrote:Nope. But while we are here, can you explain your change in thought on Empire?

....

You don't want my mehdi vote explained?...
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