Mini 1401 - Game over!

[Kthxbye]

Tell you guys what, if it comes down to needing a vote to lynch, I'll switch my vote to hammer. I'd prefer to lynch conman, but for some odd reason, you people are being dumb about lynching obvscum. We'll deal with him tomorrow if we must. Have no doubt though that if slandaar flips town, those pushing slandaars lynch over conmans will have a lot to answer for.

[Singer is Nachomamma]

I'm playing in a town mindset because I'm pushing for a good lynch (Con) over a bad lynch (Slandaar) rather than sitting back and avoiding taking a stand.

I also didn't really like this, for the record. It seemed a hell of a lot like "I'm town because I'm bussing my partner and protecting a buddy", which would also mean conman scum which I'm not ready to believe in, but this sketched me the fuck out.

[Singer is Nachomamma]

V/LA from now until the 26th

Christmas duties call. I hopefully will be around some, but I might not be, so declaring V/LA just in case.

[Malakittens]

I'm playing in a town mindset because I'm pushing for a good lynch (Con) over a bad lynch (Slandaar) rather than sitting back and avoiding taking a stand. Staying active while avoiding talking about major wagons is a classic scum tactic. If you really thought Slandaar was scum while Con wasn't, your play would be entirely different that it is right here - I don't see any evidence of you actually trying to prevent a Con lynch. Why are you just now saying you don't think Con is scum?

Actually, I think if you look at any of my posts you can see that I HAD a scum read from Slandaar from the start. Was it weak? Yes. What was it based on? Meta difference from the recent game we were in.

Lately, Conman, has been bothering me, but I'm still puzzled on his possible alignment which is why my hesitance. I will up front state things that he has been doing has been bothering me. Agreeing with people, but also leaving people out of his initial reads. I also do not like how the fact he hasn't explained his reads, but when he's tried he's been vague.

Actually, that's funny you are stating that I been staying active while avoiding talking about major wagons?

I'm actually branching out to look at behaviors of other players rather than focus on the main two players.
Why am I doing this? I'm hunting.

You were vague when you commented on the D3x/Slandaar argument and only explained it after questioned which to me was still vague.

Actually, I'm still trying to determine a read on Slandaar that is entirely separate from a meta-read.

Reason why I'm not preventing a Con lynch is because I'm not yet sure he's town. Even if I did think he was town there is only so far you can go to defend someone that you aren't sure of their alignment.

He's actually making cases and scumhunting whereas conman is just voting opportunistically. Conman hasn't seen a wagon he doesn't like (including his own).

Now you state that Slandaar was making cases:

I don't see a case that he made on Conman when he voted Conman. (Seems as if he just followed the cases at the present time)
Labels Huntress as scum, but doesn't vote her. Case here.
I mean this was SUCH a good case on D3x here. (p.s. I'm not being serious at all with saying it was such a good case.)

[Gorgon]

vote: qwints

I don't really get the reason for that vote.

@SiN not explaining why he thinks certain people are bad lynches

Well, he has. They may not be extensive explanations, but they're there.

Reason why I'm not preventing a Con lynch is because I'm not yet sure he's town.

What would make you sure?

[AngryPidgeon]

Vote Tally 1.12

Slandaar (L - 2):

d3x, Singer is Nachomamma, Gorgon, TheConman17, Huntress

TheConman17 (L - 3):

havingfitz, qwints, Kthxbye, Nobody Special

d3x (L - 6):

Slandaar

qwints (L - 6):

Malakittens

Pacifists (Not Voting):

Saint Kerrigan, Dunhamganger

((expired on 2012-12-24 23:59:59))

Nobody Special (L - 7):

havingfitz (L - 7):

Saint Kerrigan (L - 7):

Gorgon (L - 7):

Singer is Nachomamma (L - 7):

Huntress (L - 7):

KthxBye (L - 7):

Malakittens (L - 7):

Dunhamganger (L - 7):

[Kthxbye]

Ok, holidays are here and we have 3 days to lynch someone. Don't know how often ill be able to get on so as promised, I'll throw in on the slandaar wagon.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: slandaar

[TheConman17]

Sup jerks.

What are your reads?

[havingfitz]

I'm sad Conman is avoiding being lynched today.

I can deal with Slandaar lynch. He should get a chance to claim/appeal before I or someone else hammers.

Slandaar?

[qwints]

Sup jerks.

Sup. Vote for Conman.

[TheConman17]

Sup jerks.

Sup. Vote for Conman.

This sounds like a requirement campaign!

[Malakittens]

Seriously, Conman, what are your updated reads.

Don't give me wish-washy shit. Give me explanations if they are changed.

[TheConman17]

Update Reads: Slaandar=Scum

[Malakittens]

There's no way in hell you reads are staying this constant with new information coming out.

Vote: Conman

That

was

the last straw to my patience.

[TheConman17]

Okay my reads have not changed exept for the Slaandar=Scum and besides is there anything I can do to redeem myself?

[Malakittens]

Probably not. Majority of your scum reads are those voting for you.

Meph/Saint are exceptions.
Kthx also you stated is leaning town.

Just because Slandaar changed to scum on your read list means you are being oppurnist. Not to mention you are asking others for reads, but not really mentioning your own. You have an appeasement attitude.

[TheConman17]

I guess I do

[Nobody Special]

Slandaar:

Claim. I'm ready to hammer.

[SaintKerrigan]

Argh. I apologize, I know I'm not giving enough attention to this game, but real life keeps getting in the way. I doubt I'll have time to finish reads, but I know that I don't want Slandaar lynched over Conman. At least Slandaar contributes, and I've got a feeling that the whole Slandaar v Dex thing is a town-on-town fight.

Vote: TheConman17

[SaintKerrigan]

Huntress is someone I'll be looking into tomorrow, I feel she's been awfully opportunistic with her play and her votes. Qwints makes me feel weird because his early posts had me screaming obvscum, but his more recent posts have seemed more town; I don't know what to make of that. I was suspicious of the ace slot before malakittens replaced in, but I haven't looked at the slot enough in depth to definitively say whether or not the slot is scummy.

[Kthxbye]

Slandaar is L-1
Conman is L-2

[Dunhamganger]

Sup. Vote for Conman.

k cool

Vote: TheConman17

[Kthxbye]

And done. Goodbye ConMan, it's been real.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Conman

[Nobody Special]

That escalated quickly.

[TheConman17]

Sup. Vote for Conman.

k cool

Vote: TheConman17

What are your reads on me?