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Post Post #5625 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:44 am

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Hmm. Two vigs in this game, one of which is BP? Mehdi, I really don't know if I can buy this. That seems so overpowered for town whereas a town vig and a BP SK would be reasonable.
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Post Post #5626 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:45 am

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Ald how important of a character is rose? As in do you think scum have safe claims now that we've actually had scum claim?

P-edit: vs likely 8 scum with one vig likely dying early on.
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Post Post #5627 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:46 am

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Or whatever the scum joat is (likely bumi power level) and a 1 shot global role blocker that basically lets scum skip a night phase.
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Post Post #5628 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:46 am

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Oh and if the redirector was alive if a vig claims they'd never get to shoot who they want.
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Post Post #5629 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:47 am

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Hmm, that does make sense, scum is pretty stacked too.
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Post Post #5630 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:48 am

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I wish I had a better grasp of balance in games with more than one scum team -_-
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Post Post #5631 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:49 am

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Gods.

VOTE: avox

I can get behind this lynch. Last night when I was asking about the symmetry of the scum team I looked back to experimental and their scum teams. One scum team had an odd night tracker while the other had an even night tracker. Avox could be telling his real role, and the other team could be the even night watcher. Why limit a town watcher that way if there's not going to be another one limited by even nights?

Also him immediately jumping to global roleblocker doesn't make sense with how little he's actually paying attention to this game, but would make sense if his team has one...like pandorica was.

I'm fine with mehdi shooting dgb or even Sanjay.

I'll get back to this game later, gotta try and finish Christmas shopping. Hopefully there won't be another 20 pages when I get back.
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Post Post #5632 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:49 am

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In this game unless you expect the redirector dead early only one town vig is more of a hindrance then a benefit if they'll just be used as a second mafia night kill for green team (plus black's yet to be seen remaining power which av dying should help uncover since he's likely black).
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Post Post #5633 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:53 am

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The BP is just weird though
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Post Post #5634 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:53 am

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So who did the redirector redirect to?
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Post Post #5635 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:55 am

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Likely to either epic or noir. Which is kind of impossible to know.
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Post Post #5636 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:56 am

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In post 5626, Mehdi2277 wrote:Ald how important of a character is rose? As in do you think scum have safe claims now that we've actually had scum claim?

P-edit: vs likely 8 scum with one vig likely dying early on.
I think scum definitely have fake claims. Or at least, they have available fake role names. The results of the mass claim make it clear that scum have enough to know better than to accidentally double up on a role name.

Rose is a pretty important character in Homestuck. I don't know how that plays into things, though. Just because she's important doesn't mean she has to show up in this game. For example, it seems clear that John and Jade are also not in this game, and they are of similar levels of importance.
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Post Post #5637 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:17 am

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I forgot: why is bumi confirmed?
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Post Post #5638 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:17 am

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He isn't, but considering he's handing us AV and general play he's fairly obviously town.
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Post Post #5639 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:18 am

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Why? Couldn't scum be doing what he is doing? The other scum team, that is.
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Post Post #5640 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:19 am

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He's obvtown
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Post Post #5641 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:20 am

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Or let me rephrase: why is it more likely that he is doing this as town than scum?
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Post Post #5642 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:21 am

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Well dan, bt, s/r, etc could be but they'd be really dumb lynches. It's a case of his play looks town and now he's just given a guilty basically.

P-edit: Since he already looked town and the thought process that went in getting AV trapped look genuine.
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Post Post #5643 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:22 am

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In post 5481, Bumi wrote:
In post 5471, AurorusVox wrote:Fuck you all. Look at the moment I'm considering whether a mass roleblock happened (see: no kills) and whether or not I would see such a roleblock on mehdi. On top of that I've also asked what I'd see if I was roleblocked.

And presumably a roleblock would prevent someone "targeting" a player anyway (since they were blocked) and so I don't buy that target is OP to visit. The only implication it might have is whether a "mass" ability counts as targeting if it's not got a single target.


This is why you got caught. You didn't read anything that happened. You would know that a mass roleblock did not occur if you had read.

I'm not backtracking. You are scum.

Of fucking course I haven't read up on this day you fucking arsehole.
I've been asking for a play by play since I started posting.
Christ.

Still no word from the mod but upon my townflip you lynch this fucker STRAIGHT AWAY.
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Post Post #5644 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:23 am

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In post 5482, buldermar wrote:
In post 5474, Mehdi2277 wrote:Except it's fairly known that global role blocking didn't occur and was just a theory brood had and later shown false. Any other ways for you to be telling the truth?
"no result" and "him being roleblocked" are indistinguishable in some cases. It 'could' theoretically be the case here, but his phrasing that "nobody visited" is weird if the wording was "no result" in his PM.

The phrasing was no one targeted. NOT no result. Hence I very much doubt I was roleblocked; but I wanted to check with mod anyway.
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Post Post #5645 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:25 am

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Fuck you all I cannot tolerate this shit. You're going to lynch me anyway, eating up Bumi's bullshit pie.

Just DO NOT LET HIM WORM OUT OF IT later.
And for fuck's sake wait for mod to reply to me.
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Post Post #5646 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:28 am

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In post 5642, Mehdi2277 wrote:Well dan, bt, s/r, etc could be but they'd be really dumb lynches. It's a case of his play looks town and now he's just given a guilty basically.

P-edit: Since he already looked town and the thought process that went in getting AV trapped look genuine.
I agree that he looks town, but can we agree that he is not confirmed like, for instance, Nacho is?
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Post Post #5647 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:28 am

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In post 5643, AurorusVox wrote:
In post 5481, Bumi wrote:
In post 5471, AurorusVox wrote:Fuck you all. Look at the moment I'm considering whether a mass roleblock happened (see: no kills) and whether or not I would see such a roleblock on mehdi. On top of that I've also asked what I'd see if I was roleblocked.

And presumably a roleblock would prevent someone "targeting" a player anyway (since they were blocked) and so I don't buy that target is OP to visit. The only implication it might have is whether a "mass" ability counts as targeting if it's not got a single target.


This is why you got caught. You didn't read anything that happened. You would know that a mass roleblock did not occur if you had read.

I'm not backtracking. You are scum.

Of fucking course I haven't read up on this day you fucking arsehole.
I've been asking for a play by play since I started posting.
Christ.

Still no word from the mod but upon my townflip you lynch this fucker STRAIGHT AWAY.



Seems a little unlikely since I asked Quadz a question and he replied to me.

Trying to buy yourself time now? ;)

You don't have townie intentions at heart, Av. You should have immediately asked what your result meant, not wait until you were forced to do it.
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Post Post #5648 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:29 am

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In post 5645, AurorusVox wrote:Fuck you all I cannot tolerate this shit. You're going to lynch me anyway, eating up Bumi's bullshit pie.

Just DO NOT LET HIM WORM OUT OF IT later.
And for fuck's sake wait for mod to reply to me.
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Post Post #5649 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:29 am

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Buld if Bumi is scum then Nacho is probably scum too

But There's No Way Bumi Is Scum so Nacho is town.

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