Mafiastuck (GAME OVER TOWN WINS!)

[Vifam]

I'm guessing it was on me, honestly if he comes out saying he didn't save anyone that'd be pretty fucking weird, unless one of the scumteams weren't present.

[Sunshine and Rainbows]

a part of me is paranoid that dan or bt could be scum and are just playing a really strong game but i'm giving them too much of a pass by overestimating by ability to read them

[Vifam]

I was already devastated with Mehdi, I can't take more heartbreak.

[Sunshine and Rainbows]

to be fair i'm very confident that bt would have to be limescum if he were scum. probably dan as well

it's not worth considering right now i'm just second-guessing myself bc im gay

[Mehdi2277]

You'll have 0 heartbreak if you have trust.

[Phillammon]

Vifam is scum. Mehdi is bulletproof for the wrong reasons and vig- SK. Jury is still out on S&R. And you'll note that I didn't have a chance to appear townie. 3 separate people, two of which have flipped town, were already accusing me of being scum off the back of my CONFIRMATION POST.

To put what you said about my vote into context, allow me to show you two of your posts which display the same 'evidence'

4131, you vote fate. 4458, LESS THAN 500 POSTS LATER (Wow, that's under 20 pages!) You vote for Broodking, who is NOT FATE! Therefore, you are also scum, in spite of the explanation given.

To be fair, yes, I did fail to explain the change of direction on the nacho-fate issue, but as you may have noticed I had little CHANCE to do so in that time.

That is all.

(Actually, no it isn't. While making my point I noticed something. ISO S&R and Vifam together, looking particularly at voting patterns. You may notice something interesting.)

[Maenara]

Meeeeh.

Phil/DV/Sanjay are all decent lynches.

Mehdi is bestlynch, though.

[Mehdi2277]

Phil there's a difference between changing votes and saying fate is a good lynch while voting nacho later because of wagon choices when fate was a choice and lack of suspicion on nacho before.

[Sunshine and Rainbows]

Yeah vifam and i are town masons. i don't see you're point

if vifam is scum it's getting sorted out by night actions or a lategame policy lynch

[Sunshine and Rainbows]

also lol @ "i can't look town because people were finding me scummy"

it's like you've never seen a wagon drop off due to the accused player towntelling ever

[Mehdi2277]

And flavor doesn't need to match for both people to be town if you were. You still haven't commented on why didn't you expect av to be BP?

[Maenara]

Which I brought up, like, a zillion times ever since you said it.

[Vifam]

Okay Phil's post reeks of frustrated scum

[Phillammon]

also lol @ "i can't look town because people were finding me scummy"

it's like you've never seen a wagon drop off due to the accused player towntelling ever

No, I haven't mostly because I've been repeatedly told that there is no such thing as a towntell, and furthermore if there was then this entire game would be fundamentally flawed.

And flavor doesn't need to match for both people to be town if you were. You still haven't commented on why didn't you expect av to be BP?

...Are we talking about the same AV here? I'm missing something.

[Alduskkel]

zzzz

great defense Phill

Vote: Phillamon

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Is Mehdi shooting Sanjay? I can't remember if Sanjay was thought to be general scum, green scum, or black scum. Someone remind me. We definitely have to force Mehdi's kill, no BS. I refuse to let Mehdi live if his kill is not under our direct control. However, I would like to have a town-directed NK at our disposal, so I'm not for a Mehdi lynch as long as he's cooperating.

[Maenara]

Yes, Phil, we're talking about AV-who-was-Rose-and-hence-a-god-tier here.

Fancy of you to pop in Ald.

[Vifam]

Please explain to everyone why exactly I am scum, Phil

[Alduskkel]

Phill I once got run up to L-1 as town then town-telled SO HARD I got nightkilled by scum just a few rounds later

so don't tell me OH NO I NEVER GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK TOWN

let me tell you something

YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK TOWN! No one can take that from you. However, many people fail to do so. You're one of them.

[Sunshine and Rainbows]

towntells don't exist in the same way scumtells don't exist, everything is circumstantial etc etc etc

but players can definitely do things that cause others to read them as town, even if they're being voted. it's just that you can't force it (otherwise playing scum would be a guaranteed win)

[Mehdi2277]

Phil I think my situation was worse then you and I'm not lynched.

And ald yes I plan to shoot sanjay. DV is arguable and there isn't anyone else I'm interested in shooting unless you want to explain why I should shoot elsewhere.

[Vifam]

Uh Im gonna back to my avatar, this one is starting to piss me off for some reason

[Maenara]

The only reason you're not lynched yet is because we're using your kill.

P-Edit: THANK YOU.

[Phillammon]

Oh, that. Yes, I was acting under the impression that it would only be the troll god tiers that were bp, otherwise, y'know, 6 bulletproofs running around, which would be crazy unbalanced.

S&R: I apologize if I'm misinterpreting this, but you appear to be saying that, as a bulletproof townsperson, what I should have been doing is making myself appear town. By dropping a towntell. Which is something that cannot be forced by definition.

[Maenara]

No, we're saying you should've helped town.

Like. At all.

[Mehdi2277]

The only reason you're not lynched yet is because we're using your kill.

P-Edit: THANK YOU.

If my kill didn't exist the the entire sk theory would fall apart pretty completely. Anyways at this point your really just the one person who tunnels me since forever.