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[killerjester]

TML

- Definite town. Played with him in Mini 1394 and his scumhunting style matches up pretty damn well. I'm bothered by how Nacho has him down as a scumread without any stated reason. Doesn't even mention him specifically in his posts, just kind of slips him into the Fake ID list.

Nacho?

Pls Nacho, make yourself clear on TML. Is he meant to be on the Fake ID list? If so, why?

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Aj The Epic (1): Bumi
ArcAngel9 (1): SlySly
BirdAndBeast (1): Idiotking
Idiotking (1): The Mini-Librarian
JacobSavage (1): Jal
njoseph (4): Aj The Epic, nhammen, thezmon221
Sixx (6): Albus Dumbledore, BirdAndBeast, Parama, Nachomamma8, njoseph, killerjester
The Mini-Librarian (1): Robert2424
thezmon221 (4): ArcAngel9, Baby Spice, Ztife, PeregrineV
Ztife (3): jeck, Sixx, Darthe
Not voting (3): Edosurist, PMysterious, JacobSavage

With

25

alive, it takes

13

players to lynch.

[Bumi]

I should be less scummy in your mind. But I'm not? Are you tunnel visioned already?

[SlySly]

I should be less scummy in your mind. But I'm not? Are you tunnel visioned already?

Why should you be less scummy in my mind? Your AA love is indisputable.

[Sixx]

My reads so far will do an ISO tomorrow I hope.

town:
Darthe
Killerapple
parama
Nachomamma

thez

B&B
njsoeph
dumbledore
JAL
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null so far:
AA - will ISO
AJ The epic - will ISO

PM - no opinion yet
nhammen - no opinion yet
PeregrineV - no opinion yet
DayVigilante - no opinion yet

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null-leaning scum:
JaCobSavage
Robert
Killerjester
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leaning scum:
Idiotking - Will ISO.
BUMI - Will ISO better, but either stupied or scum for having his vote on Nacho atm.
Baby spice

Sixx Reason being - ?

TML
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scum:
Ztife

Ok here goes:

Roger was an idiot

Thez is scummy (revised to null by everyone elses actions, not his own Derp shit)

Sixx is mafia Reason being - ?

Sora is unquestionably mafia (#250)

Camo is an idiot. maybe scum. Either way needs to die. (#266)


Hydra is town
parama is town
heather is town
I like nacho, he can be town too. Great posts, especially the entry and 493
angel is slight town (post #355 was eww though) replaced by Jal, props on #364/369
Dumbledore is slight town, made me laugh a lot in #334, 336, lost some points in #492, lost more and his slight town status in the following pages
Aj Epic is slight town (liking 378)
Bumi is slight town (post #322 was shit though, I can't vote someone from India? 550 was good)
nhamman is slight town
Bspice is slight town
Savage gets points for #329
Apple gets points for unvoting Angel
liking Jek so far, so townie.

If you have killer in your name, what are you doing for this game?
Nothing.
Librarian is null
mysterious is null, unproductive, and smells bad =p kidding about the last 1
where the hell is Sadistyx? MOD?
Same question for Day Vig.

replacement level is fucked.

Thez train went up like a goddamn haystack, oddly has total town reads on it but shit just doesn't make sense yet. Edit: The ass end of this thing got real shitty real quick. Fucking makes me question my read, I don't like that.

(thezmon221 (9): The Mini-Librarian, nhammen, BirdAndBeast, njoseph, Parama, ArcAngel9, SoraAdvent, Baby Spice, Unseencamo, johnnyfarrar, savage)



Mod post 422
Ztife replaces unseencamo and Darthe replaces Roger Thornhill. This is the reverse of what they would have gotten had I gone in order of request instead of order in which I check, but the way around it is stands.

This interests me. Makes me feel like their was a difference large enough to warrant not fixing things quickly in case we noticed. Combined with my read on him I think Camo (now Ztife) warrants attention.



How did I earn the spot of strongest town read from Jeck, Nacho, and someone others (cant remember) before I even posted??


Don't bother reading the shit from Slysly, he needs a TLDR version that doesn't quote half the game.


@MOD: y u no reset votes when replacing?

VOTE COUNT

Aj The Epic (1): Bumi
ArcAngel9 (1): SlySly
BirdAndBeast (1): Idiotking
Idiotking (1): The Mini-Librarian
JacobSavage (1): Jal
njoseph (4): Aj The Epic, nhammen, thezmon221
Sixx (6): Albus Dumbledore, BirdAndBeast, Parama, Nachomamma8, njoseph, killerjester
The Mini-Librarian (1): Robert2424
thezmon221 (4): ArcAngel9, Baby Spice,

Ztife,

PeregrineV
Ztife (3): jeck, Sixx,

Darthe

Not voting (3): Edosurist, PMysterious, JacobSavage

With

25

alive, it takes

13

players to lynch.

You two make no god damn sense.

[Edosurist]

Hey folks!
Reading the thread.

[Sixx]

UNVOTE: Ztife
VOTE: Darthe how the hell are you going to say somebody's unquestionably scum and not place a vote? it just makes no god damn sense.

[njoseph]

UNVOTE: Ztife
VOTE: Darthe how the hell are you going to say somebody's unquestionably scum and not place a vote? it just makes no god damn sense.

Do you want to trip up somebody else so much that you are not considering that Sora has no votes and Ztife is more likely to be lynched relative to Soar?

[njoseph]

*Sora

[njoseph]

May I not multipost as much .

[thezmon221]

You could if you actually formed paragraphs instead of making 3 consecutive posts with a single sentence each.

[Sixx]

Sure, I'd agree with you if he had decided to add Ztife onto his scum list, he did not.

[Ztife]

@jeck
443
449
453
I have a hard time understanding this guy. Basically according to him thez is more likely townie than scum (due to ratio) and therefore the later votes on thez means that they are scum/scummy. Its pretty ridiculous.

Also, from 469 you said that thez is likely scum, and jump to 517 you said that you no longer believed thez is scum, and you are looking for people

that were voting on him, especially late or people that never voted on him in the first place.

Inbetween post 510 is also incoherent as hell, what non-existent probability are you talking about?

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JacobSavage is actively lurking. From his numerous posts I see little scum hunting, and dubious wagoning.

280 putting thez at l-3 and changing later when a quick lynch is not evident. This vote is really fishy to me.

He also posts pretty actively in other games, but hardly contributes anything here. Only scrum reads he has on 329 but elaborates little.


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As for thez case, there's at least 10 pages worth of BW against thez, and all I see is a high replacement rate for this game and its gradually pushed away with no real case anywhere now.

[Albus Dumbledore]

Thez, talk to me about Sixx. Give me everything you've got.

[Edosurist]

Sorry it took a while. Lunch + listening to Colbert's interview on NPR cut up my reading. I.E., life.

Here are my reads I feel I should point out, ordered in the strength I believe in them:

Sixx - I'm just going to nod and say yes. Yes.

SCUM

PM - I don't feel like scum PM would do IIoA. Too blatant.

TOWN

Dumbledore - Opportune votes, especially his vote on thez. His interaction with thez feels scummy.

LEANS SCUM

thez - If Dumbledore is scum, thez is scum. Otherwise, I was getting a slight town read because of the recklessness at the start of the game. Scum wouldn't be that reckless.

LEANS TOWN

TML - He's a lot less inquisitive than he was in a game I recently played with him in which he was a mason. In that game, he seemed overly careful at times, which I'm not seeing now. Assuming he'd play similar as scum, he's likely town.

LEANS TOWN

JS - Credit goes to my gut for now. It's been good in the past, I feel inclined to trust it now.

LEANS SCUM

Jal - Mainly, we share similar reads. Town will work for now.

WEAK TOWN

NJ - He's not being very pro-town.

WEAK SCUM

Arc - I don't particularly agree with the wagon, but she's not town to me.

NULL

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With that said and done,
VOTE: Sixx

[Darthe]

UNVOTE: Ztife
VOTE: Darthe how the hell are you going to say somebody's unquestionably scum and not place a vote? it just makes no god damn sense.

Do you want to trip up somebody else so much that you are not considering that Sora has no votes and Ztife is more likely to be lynched relative to Soar?

I like this. Hey sixx, shut your scum mouth.

[SlySly]

Sixx wagon analysis

The Wagon:

Sixx (7): Albus Dumbledore, BirdAndBeast, Parama, Nachomamma8, njoseph, killerjester, Edosurist

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Edosurist - "I'm just going to nod and say yes. Yes. SCUM"

Reasoning Paraphrase - "I've got nothing. Obvscum."

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Albus Dumbledore - "Sixx is scum. You all probably know this already, considering how glaringly obvious it is, but there you have it."

Reasoning Paraphrase - "As you all probably know already, Sixx is obvscum, there you have it."

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BirdAndBeast1 - "Well I haven't consulted with my sexier half, but I know Mastin has been listing Sixx as scum consistently in thread

(actually, his last mention in thread about Sixx as scum was 317 posts earlier in post 178. That consistency must be in your QT.)

and QT. And I also think Sixx is leaning scummy."

Reasoning Paraphrase - "Not sure about other half, but I know other half consistently calls Sixx scum in our QT, I'm thinking of sheeping other half's QT reasoning."

BirdAndBeast2 - "By what people are saying of sheeping you on Sixx (haven't actually read that, yet, but I saw it on the page my post was on), I think you're scum as well. We'll dominate the scum, now."

Reasoning Paraphrase - "Since someone said you are sheeping, I think you're scum"

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Parama - "I'll totally sheep Nacho"

Reasoning Paraphrase - "I'll totally sheep Nacho"

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Nachomamma8

- "Don't like the Sixx reaction to Bird. "Well your posts suck too!" isn't exactly a valid response to an attack, and seems more like scum deflection."

Reasoning Paraphrase - "Sixx reacted poorly to B&B. His reaction was deflection via OMGUS."

- "I don't like how you make this vague statement in order to discourage future sheepers as opposed to calling out people specifically and attacking them for it."

Reasoning Paraphrase - "Sixx, call people out for being scummy rather than generalizing to discourage future sheepers."

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njoseph

- "I could have hopped on thezmon's wagon again, but Sixx seems the more scummy 1 out of the two largest wagons."

Reasoning Paraphrase - "The Sixx wagon looks better to jump on than the thezmon wagon."

- "That leaves Sixx, and he's bad for being on Ztife wagon, and is not given the credit I have given to Sixx, nothing about Sixx has stood out to me as markingly, to me, townie."

Reasoning Paraphrase - "Sixx is left by POE. The Ztife wagon is one Sixx shouldn't be on. DERP! Sixx has not stood out as obvtown to me."

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killerjester - "I can't seem to find someone's point of him deflecting, however Sixx claims to be primarily townhunting over scumhunting but has provided lists for neither."

Reasoning Paraphrase - "I don't see the deflection NM pointed out, but Sixx is townhunting over scumhunting and doesn't give list for either."

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Conclusion

- Extremely weak wagon. Only NM gives any valid reasoning and it is quite a stretch. Parama at least sheeped the best reasoning even though it was weak.

[Aj The Epic]

Sly, welcome to this game as of so far: B&B wagons with more sheep than I count before I fall asleep.

Darthe, why not provide some actual constructive posts? You're encouraging someone to stop talking in mafia. Do you even know how shit gets done in mafia? I thought not. Continue on.

[Baby Spice]

Unvote

Thez vote is going nowhere now.

Vote Sixx

Ironically voted Ztife for not cum hunting, something that Sixx appears not to have done himself.
Later votes Darthe for reasons that aren't exactly clear.
Sixx, you do realize that Ztife replaced UnseenCammo whom Darthe listed as:

Camo is an idiot. maybe scum. Either way needs to die. (#266)

So in effect Ztife was in Darthes scum list.

Not that I'm saying that Darthe's vote, or reason, or scum listing are great. They're not. But they are there.

[Parama]

cum hunting

This is the best typo I've seen in a while

[SlySly]

Baby Spice, do you think Sixx is scum?

[Sixx]

Clearly you guys want me to repeat myself over and over and over again, I am not going to do that to entertain you, its quite clear thats pointless. he fact of the matter is I'm surprised somebody has decided to include a reason for once so thank you, Baby, though it was a mistake and its more than difficult keeping up with the massive amounts of replacements that we've had just this day phase, I will admit this amount of replacements is much different than I'm used to even though I've been in larger games than this. Regardless, the votes people place are not guided by anything, people constantly claim obvscum and others claim obvtown when their is no form of obvbacking. I might as well entertain myself and claim obvtown as well. The oddest thing about these obvscum claims is that thezmon as well as myself are so obzscum that you guys cannot come up with a reason other than that.

[Baby Spice]

Baby Spice, do you think Sixx is scum?

Yes. Probably.

I've got a bigger scum read on Thez, and on Njoeseph. A lesser, mostly gut scum read on AJ. More of a leaning really.
But pretty good town read on B&B and to a lesser extent Parama.
I was going to vote Njoeseph but couldn't bring myself to with both Thez and AJ on that three person wagon.

[Sixx]

& then thez goes from being so obvscum to being town... your guys' claims are a joke at best.

[Darthe]

Claims?