Street Racers: New York (Game over!)

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Aj The Epic (1): Bumi
ArcAngel9 (1): SlySly
BirdAndBeast (1): Idiotking
Darthe (1): Sixx
Idiotking (1): The Mini-Librarian
JacobSavage (1): Jal
njoseph (4): Aj The Epic, nhammen, thezmon221
Sixx (8): Albus Dumbledore, BirdAndBeast, Parama, Nachomamma8, njoseph, killerjester, Edosurist, Baby Spice
The Mini-Librarian (1): Robert2424
thezmon221 (3): ArcAngel9, Ztife, PeregrineV
Ztife (2): jeck, Darthe
Not voting (2): PMysterious, JacobSavage

With

25

alive, it takes

13

players to lynch.

[Jal]

Reading through.

@Nojoseph

: Is English your primary language?

@AJ

Can you post that meta you have on him?

[Darthe]

vote sixx

better chhance of getting a lynch here. scum is scum.

[thezmon221]

I noticed that I wrote jeck twice. I meant for ArcAngel and jeck to be the two people at the top of the top.

Sixx: I and others have established our "plurality consensus" for his scuminess, even Darthe says he looks bad, and Darthe is null to me, but also is smart, I've played with him before.

I

diotKing: Whom he replaced, KillerApple, was someone I voted for before Sixx, and he does not come off as markingly townie either

AA: Posts have that townie glow and makes sense, and I have developed a positive read on her according to my posting before
jeck: Seems to be a townie that's trying enough if play is too heuristical, but that's like a townie who's trying to develop a science for scumhunting.

So sheep on Sixx? I still haven't seen much scumminess and I posted why I don't think he's scum and why his wagon is bad.
Uhh IdiotKing didn't replace KA, nice try. He replaced Archetype and thus Bride of Sadistyx. SlySly replaced KA according to Post #1.

[Aj The Epic]

AA: This is his town game. He replaced out day 2 halfway through because he was having major issues once pressured. You know he's Tarzo, correct? I would guess older players have more meta on that.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=23940

[Nachomamma8]

@Nacho - because every site that has mafia has its typical tendencies, this one sheeping is much more acceptable than others and its almost scummy to get onto a rant about it. Their's no point of me switching my vote off and placing it on somebody thats just going to sheep because to you guys its common. Not a damn one of you sees it as scummy so why would I waste the time in ranting more about it? I'll point it out vaguely on purpose, my habits would typically have me vote you off the island from that type of action once the spam-phase has finished.

Why does it matter if the site typically sees something as scummy or not? If you believe that they are scum, there's no reason for you not to call them out for sheeping. There's no reason not to point to someone and go "FUCK THIS SCUMFUCK" just because the site meta thinks what they are doing because not everyone here perfectly represents the site meta.

UNVOTE: Ztife
VOTE: Darthe how the hell are you going to say somebody's unquestionably scum and not place a vote? it just makes no god damn sense.

This the best you got?

@Nojoseph: Is English your primary language?

Yes, it is. How does this improve your read on him?

[Nachomamma8]

killerjester, I don't like mini librarian because of how he handled the thez wagon. He originally started voting thez with random wagon reasoning, said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING as the thez wagon grew to the only feasible wagon of the day, and then shuffled off onto idiotking when the wagon died without saying shit about the wagons rising in its place. I'm also a little confused why you find "playing different from how he did when he was a mason" such a strong towntell; just because he had buddies doesn't mean that he's scum, and there's no reason why he would be playing the same as scum now.

[Idiotking]

vote sixx

better chhance of getting a lynch here. scum is scum.

Why?


Also, I again want to point out how much Jacob is active lurking. The last time he did anything that even resembles building a case was on the 25th (t'was on Arc), but that same day he unvoted, acted like he was derp for voting, and has done nothing since.

[Idiotking]

That's so confusing.... You can tell I've not payed much attention...

I mean, seriously.

[SlySly]

vote sixx

better chhance of getting a lynch here. scum is scum.

In your opinion, what makes Sixx scum?

[JacobSavage]

Oh hai everyone. Just to let y oooou know I'm back from V/LA and will try to produce a content post this evening.
However the Wi-Fi where I'm staying is temperamental at best so be warned.

@Idiot, if you read my case it was built on a post which seamed to be obviously buddying with a player named "harsh" who I assumed was a typo for heather. It turns out harsh was not a player and was her describing her playstyle hence the unvote. ..

[BirdAndBeast]

Mod:

Dunno 'bout AP, but I'm

severely V/LA until Monday, January 7th, 2013

. I'll do what I can to contribute, but most of our content will be from AP...who is ALSO currently V/LA.

He hasn't been posting in our QT, but I could seriously use his help for bouncing reads. Anyway,

Unvote,
Vote: njoseph.

Call it gut, but the Sixx wagon suddenly seems poisonous to me. Much as SlySly is wrong, he did raise some good points, and having thez vouch for Sixx, combined with nj's reasoning for hopping on, was enough for that. (Though note the lack of vote tags. There's a reason for that. )

[Nachomamma8]

NO MASTIN NO

[Idiotking]

Oh hai everyone. Just to let y oooou know I'm back from V/LA and will try to produce a content post this evening.
However the Wi-Fi where I'm staying is temperamental at best so be warned.

@Idiot, if you read my case it was built on a post which seamed to be obviously buddying with a player named "harsh" who I assumed was a typo for heather. It turns out harsh was not a player and was her describing her playstyle hence the unvote. ..

Ok, how do you explain the rest of your play? You've made a handful of jabs here and there, but for the most part you've been talking about a whole lot of nothing. When you discovered your error, why didn't you examine something else?

[njoseph]

I noticed that I wrote jeck twice. I meant for ArcAngel and jeck to be the two people at the top of the top.

Sixx: I and others have established our "plurality consensus" for his scuminess, even Darthe says he looks bad, and Darthe is null to me, but also is smart, I've played with him before.

I

diotKing: Whom he replaced, KillerApple, was someone I voted for before Sixx, and he does not come off as markingly townie either

AA: Posts have that townie glow and makes sense, and I have developed a positive read on her according to my posting before
jeck: Seems to be a townie that's trying enough if play is too heuristical, but that's like a townie who's trying to develop a science for scumhunting.

So sheep on Sixx? I still haven't seen much scumminess and I posted why I don't think he's scum and why his wagon is bad.
Uhh IdiotKing didn't replace KA, nice try. He replaced Archetype and thus Bride of Sadistyx. SlySly replaced KA according to Post #1.

Bride of Sadistyx was someone whom I voted for and thought guttingly could actually be scum.
I tend to give weight to my first impression gut reads; I've been swayed when I had thought too much in the past about second-guessing. Anyway, replace KillerApple with Bride of Sadistyx for my reasoning, I knew it was a scummy slot.
I have similar rationale for SlySly and IdiotK's being more likely to be scum on top of their own lack of markedly town style:
SlySly replaced by scummy KA & IdiotK replaced by scummy Bride of Sadistyx.
I stand by my Sixx vote despite BB turning on me. Sixx doesn't feel right enough to let live.

[thezmon221]

Okay, so part of your post kind of confused me, that.... fourth line. Is there a way you can rephrase it so I don't completely mess up in interpretation?

"SlySly replaced by scummy KA & IdiotK replaced by scummy Bride of Sadistyx."

To me it looks like you're saying KA/IK replaced SlySly who were replaced by BoS, so can you reword it?

Apart from that, I feel SlySly has been pretty town so far. Sure, he may be wrong on a few points, but aren't we all at some point? And I don't see how you really can make a direct parallel between KA/IK and SlySly, they seem pretty different to me.

Also, what gave you the feeling BoS was scummy when she was playing?

[StrangerCoug]

I'm PM'ing Magua to let him know to watch this game. I'm pretty sure I have a cold.

[Bumi]

Feel better!

[Bumi]

SlySly I still don't understand how I'm scum. Because I think ArcAngel is town?

[njoseph]

I wrote, "SlySly replaced by scummy KA & IdiotK replaced by scummy Bride of Sadistyx."
Forget the "by"s:
I meant that -->SlySly replaced scummy KA. IdiotK replaced scummy Bride of Sadistyx.
What made Bride of Sadistyx scummy enough for me to vote for Bride?

Vote will be on someone ...

VOTE: Bride of Sadistyx

for voting Roger for something that is neutral/null according to her own self.

She cobbled up a counterstatement/ I get cold feet when counterstatements are cobbled up by people sometimes, but presently I don't think I should have gave in so easily because I keep trying to remind myself to believe in first impressions.
My first impression WAs that what I voted her for was scummy.

[njoseph]

So if I don't vote for Bride on Day Two, hold me accountable.

[thezmon221]

So why is IK scummy now, then? Because that seems like a bad reason to keep your vote, especially since your vote isn't even on your first impression.

[njoseph]

Sixx is scummy and has more viability w.r.t lynching.
IK gets anti-brownie points from his not so great predecessor, and he continues to be not so great. Just look at how he seems to be slipping through without much attention and look at what has been said of him. He does not leave a likeable in my mouth.

[njoseph]

*a likeable taste in my mouth or in my gut

[Idiotking]

So I'm scummy because other people say I'm scummy? Why don't you come up with your own reasons?