Street Racers: New York (Game over!)

[Nachomamma8]

we can lynch darthe after sixx flips scum

[njoseph]

Ztife is slightly town in my estimation.
Darthe is null. I really don't know. I saw his town self before. Not sure how that meta applies.

I am on the Sixx wagon because of sheeping. Seriously, I have no extra stuff to pile on the pile of insight.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Aj The Epic (1): Bumi
ArcAngel9 (1): SlySly
Darthe (1): Ztife
njoseph (7): Aj The Epic, nhammen, thezmon221, BirdAndBeast, Idiotking, The Mini-Librarian, Sixx
Sixx (9): Albus Dumbledore, Parama, Nachomamma8, njoseph, killerjester, Edosurist, Baby Spice, Darthe, Jal
The Mini-Librarian (1): Robert2424
thezmon221 (2): ArcAngel9, PeregrineV
Ztife (1): jeck
Not voting (2): PMysterious, JacobSavage

With

25

alive, it takes

13

players to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-01-13 00:00:00).

[Darthe]

If we lynch Njoseph and he flips scum, we kill Darthe next. Conditional, but he's helping as little as Njoseph.

Actually, I'll just superficially cast my suspicion on him![/sarcasm]

HoS:Darthe

Like seriously, what the hell are you doing? You're last three posts have been giving us our 'only options for a lynch today', encouraging a sheep on Sixx (no reason, mind you) and telling Sixx to shut up. This is in no means helpful. I expect something of substance before you try and take any position where you have the power to dictate anything. You are trying to go on and encourage nothing but sheeping. How come you can't present a real reason, or comment on anything important in your last three posts? No response to the vote from Ztife, just continuation of what makes me think you are overly scummy.

Njoseph, how about you start contributing to the conversation? Why do you think Sixx is a good lynch? Then, what do you think about Ztife and Dathe?

Not liking my help is different from not receiving it. I could care less if you think my opinion is wrong, that happens, but what exactly do you think you're going for here when I have already presented my reads and leads?

If you're asking for reasoning, reasoning is easily presentable. Hell, I have no need to rehash cases or reread the thread, step up a bit and click his ISO. I can quote it for you if you would like, with my opinions on his comments, but again... rehashed and it is still a series of my opinions which you seem to have issue with here. It boils down to: I think him mafia, so I have voted him because he has a decent train and the others I think scum don't. What more could you need?

[thezmon221]

If you're asking for reasoning,

reasoning is easily presentable.

Hell, I have no need to rehash cases or reread the thread, step up a bit and click his ISO. I can quote it for you if you would like, with my opinions on his comments, but again... rehashed and it is still a series of my opinions which you seem to have issue with here. It boils down to: I think him mafia, so I have voted him because he has a decent train and the others I think scum don't. What more could you need?

Considering there is a lack of reasoning on him, go ahead. Dumbledore challenged me to why I don't think he's scum, and he went V/LA. If you read my Post 635, I went through and explained why I felt it was a bad wagon. I have seen just about no reasoning behind the votes before or after that post so... what I'd like is for you to please give me reasoning to why he's scum, and if you can't do such, kindly turn your vote onto njoseph.

After all, dead troll town is better than dead town.

[Nachomamma8]

Not sure how that meta applies.

What are the similarities you are seeing between this game and that game?

After all, dead troll town is better than dead town.

Right but dead scum is better than both these things. You've explained why you feel it's a bad wagon, but you haven't exactly explained why you think it won't hit scum in a way that is satisfactory to me.

[thezmon221]

Right but dead scum is better than both these things. You've explained why you feel it's a bad wagon, but you haven't exactly explained why you think it won't hit scum in a way that is satisfactory to me.

Fair enough, not too much I can do about that, but can you explain why you believe Sixx is scum?

[Nachomamma8]

Will you attempt to explain why you find Sixx town one more time if you don't like my case after I make it?

[Parama]

Are we in some sort of Bizarro part of the site where scumtells are reversed? Since when was sheeping

not

scummy? Was there an announcement or something? When did it become acceptable to not scumhunt?

So you're requiring 13 players to justify their votes with good reasoning in order to get a d1 lynch that will probably land on town anyways? Good luck with that bro

[Nachomamma8]

that will probably land on town anyways?

stop

[Jal]

After all, dead troll town is better than dead town.

Regardless of alignment, they're both equally useless. Rather vote for someone I think is most likely to be scum than one troll townie. Hell, at least NJ is actually commenting on crap.

[killerjester]

I've really never found myself wanting to call someone troll townie for active lurking.

If NJ is scum, Jal is almost certainly a buddy.

[Jal]

Ah yes, the person with the most posts in the thread is "active lurking."

Oh please, go on.

[Jal]

Also, what exactly

is

your read on NJ?

[BirdAndBeast]

<shitty excuse for a post>
Hey , AP checking in. I just got back from my ski trip yesterday and New Years Eve happened. And I had to catch up on some work I was putting off today. So I will read and post tomorrow when Im not hungover/in-need-of-a-back-massage/worried-about-presenting-this-shitty-project-in-SF-tomorrow.

[killerjester]

Well from his own words he's adapted a "black hole strategy", or intentionally preventing players from getting a solid read on him (#470). He's admittedly sheeping the Sixx wagon, but hasn't pointed out why he feels the others on it have made it a good wagon aside from Darthe, whom he said was "smart" but read as "null" (#648). And he's implied that he hasn't been as engaged as he could be due to a lack on information (#768).

So yea, that's my definition of active lurking to coast into later day phases.

PEDIT: He reads as slight scum to me. Of the two, I prefer the Sixx wagon.

[Jal]

That is not what active lurking means. He also has increased his post frequency in the last few days. I can understand how people can find NJ as coming off scummy in certain aspects, but actively lurking is not something he's doing. Jacob doing crap all earlier after retracting his AA vote and hanging around the forums is an example of active lurking.

I thought you were just sheeping Nacho with your Sixx vote. What makes Sixx scummier to you?

[njoseph]

Are we in some sort of Bizarro part of the site where scumtells are reversed? Since when was sheeping

not

scummy? Was there an announcement or something? When did it become acceptable to not scumhunt?

So you're requiring 13 players to justify their votes with good reasoning in order to get a d1 lynch that will probably land on town anyways? Good luck with that bro

As much as Parama has currently been doing f*ck all less than me, I have to heartedly agree with him on this.

[StrangerCoug]

Happy birthday, njoseph!

[njoseph]

. I don't expect players to give me more breaks than usual, though.

[Bumi]

Why would they?

[njoseph]

And I'M called the active lurker. You seem to write shorter things than even me.

[njoseph]

Okay, you get credit for 550. Can we lynch Sixx already; eleven days/ten days is no excuse to stall or drag this out. Have a good day while I have a good birthday.

[killerjester]

I thought you were just sheeping Nacho with your Sixx vote. What makes Sixx scummier to you?

What made you think I was sheeping?

[BirdAndBeast]

I'm catching up and consolidating thoughts in the QT right now. I still have several pages to go, but I wanted to throw it out there:

I think Ztife (Camo replacement) is scum. That post that Nacho called out a few pages back WAS really awful. I couldn't really put my finger on it at first, but it just looks like bad posturing. Jeck's read list was bad too. Im squinting at idiotking, but he might just be an idiot king.