Read up to here, but haven't been massively concentrating; it's almost 10am and I haven't been to bed yet (and I've been busy with a newbie game that just started that I'm ICing for).
Tierce, about your unvote of me, something strikes me as a little odd. You thought I was scum, and based on your reason for unvoting, still think I'm scummy (just not as much as fitz/Konowa). If I
am
scum, then fitz/Konowa obviously can't be a team. I'd sort-of expect you not to go in so heavily on an interaction read when your other reads conflicted with it; the main problem with interaction reads is that they're unreliable without flips, because a single mistake brings down the whole argument.
What I mean is, I think, that your read on me, although it's incorrect, I have an easier time seeing you believing it than I do seeing you believe the fitz/Konowa team read. Especially when you said you were going to look at all the partnerships, then decided that Aeris was town independent of interactions (that much is fine, because that much is obvious), then simply listed one partnership and started pushing it. (While, a little earlier, claiming that you don't put this much effort in as scum.)
BTW, I'm not faulting you for survivalism. (I
am
faulting you for the pushing of mislynches, though.) And I guessed you weren't selfish as town, or necessarily survivalistic as scum; I'm much the same in those regards, I think (in Marketplace Mafia, I intentionally limited my own ability to influence the game because some players were reading me as scum; and frequently as scum I'll attempt to sacrifice myself in such a way as to confuse people about my partner).
My strategy, really, is just to do whatever will help me win the most. As scum, that might be self-sacrifice (Mafia with the Kitties did that best, although it was a special case; I wasn't intentionally trying to get caught as scum, but I
was
trying to keep DV alive and widely considered town as a top priority, rather than trying to keep myself alive), it might be intentionally playing against what I know of my scum meta (a recent-ish newbie game where Nacho was my scumbuddy, and I made the risky rather than safe play in lylo for me as scum, where the two plays would have been equal risk for me as town), and it might just be sitting there looking obvtown for as long as possible (Worst Roles Mafia, where I decided pretty much as soon as I replaced in that I needed to survive until endgame and the rest of my scumteam was expendable). As town, there aren't so many options; it's a case of trying my best to scumhunt and hoping that my alignment shines through as I do.
I think you're much the same about how you play as town and scum (Paranoia Mafia as an example of you intentionally playing against your scum meta, for instance). I also think you knew what my meta is like in this respect; I don't have any direct evidence, but you made a very accurate educated guess about my modmeta in my first Mini Normal (when, by definition, I didn't have any modmeta), and I think it's along the same comparison lines. (Just as I'd expect a normal run by you to be reasonably accurately balanced. And a little less than halfway on a scale from Empking to Tarharlindur. Unless, of course, you were co-modding with Vi.)
So I'm a bit offended you'd think I'd push you for survivalism. I don't believe survivalism would be a scumtell from you as scum right now (I
would
expect you to bring up the "it's better I'm mislynched now than later" argument, which you did, but I'd expect you to do that as either alignment, so it's null). And I'm a little upset that you'd think I'd accuse you of that.
(I'm not pushing Trevor for survivalism either. Especially because my meta knowledge of Trevor is him posting for a bit in a newbie game we played together, flaking, my scumteam getting his empty slot mislynched when I really wanted to lynch the cop, and him following up by going round MD proclaiming the advantages of EpicMafia setups. This strikes me as the sort of player who'd be entirely willing to hammer in self-defence as town.)
Tierce (L-1) ~ callforjudgement, Leafsnail, Konowa
