Okay, Nacho. I’m going to go ahead and say –you have a good analysis on Sixx (whether I agree with it or not, of course, is different). So, let’s see if I can match that and reword my original post into a more… uhh… desirable (?) post.
Firstly, I’m going to address this because this will muddy up everything I do. I am being COMPLETELY honest in my thoughts with this quote. No bullshit.
In post 621, Sixx wrote:Clearly you guys want me to repeat myself over and over and over again, I am not going to do that to entertain you, its quite clear thats pointless. he fact of the matter is I'm surprised somebody has decided to include a reason for once so thank you, Baby, though it was a mistake and its more than difficult keeping up with the massive amounts of replacements that we've had just this day phase, I will admit this amount of replacements is much different than I'm used to even though I've been in larger games than this. Regardless, the votes people place are not guided by anything, people constantly claim obvscum and others claim obvtown when their is no form of obvbacking. I might as well entertain myself and claim obvtown as well. The oddest thing about these obvscum claims is that thezmon as well as myself are so obzscum that you guys cannot come up with a reason other than that.
I was in a very similar situation at the height of my wagon. I was just pissed at a lack of reasoning on my wagon, and then at the stances people took on “obvscum” (me at the time, Sixx at the time of this post) and “obvtown” (B&B and others). My biggest issue with this was that people so blindly followed the leader IME and then made empty claims about me and others.
So, what I am trying to say here, and I KNOW this is terrible, but I kind of emphasize with Sixx in this post. I am sorry, I just can't help it. I did not see this nearly as scummy because I was in the same position and know how it felt in this game to be in such a situation. You know that we come from a different site together, and on that site we have people who don’t sheep nearly as much and will more readily offer actual reasoning for a vote.
Okay, now that that is out of the way, let’s continue.
In post 97, Sixx wrote:Honestly thez I don't need anybody to ask why I have votes on me, it is what it is and thats my basic reaction to any D1 situation. What bugs me right now is that you are curious to his reasons to me. Don't latch onto me, we might play together somewhere else but I'll still lynch you well before you get the chance to buddy-buddy and kill me. Same goes for how B&B is latching onto Mastin with the obvtown. Am I going to make a deal about it at all? no. Why? because its D1 and I'm considered new to them so c'est la vie.
I give him +1 here for getting on my tail for the apparent buddying (though it was more of an analysis of a vote than a buddying attempt) of me to him. I’m also going to be honest here – saying c’est la vie (which is French for “that’s life” if you didn’t know) is kind of normal for him and he’s generally a more mellow player, especially earlier in the games.
In post 158, Sixx wrote:I see Rogers post more so as lack of experience than him being scummy although his posts do seem to lack the basics of the game, he has said it was his first and unless your objective is plausibly eliminate him from continuing to play on the site, I don't see a reason to D1 lynch him. Simple as that.
This right here seems more town-motivated to me than a lot of the reasons going into the wagon on Roger.
In post 339, Sixx wrote:Care to elaborate? I've made note of this post as well but to be frank, I do not see you possibly having the same notices as I did with this simply based on the play-time that I've had with thez over you. I'm used to people (moreso than Heather at least) not supplying full in-depth reasons for their votes but it leaves holes in the following day(s) so far the only reasons that I've seen today at all that I nor anybody else can POSSIBLY argue with is obvscum... I mean clearly you have MSI and that would be unarguable.
More a comment than analysis of his posts – This is probably the same position I’m in. I’ve played with Sixx for… the better part of two years now so I notice things differently from you which will probably help explain for you why I may think some things aren’t scummy that you find scummy, just like the sheeping incident.
In post 372, Sixx wrote:Thank you for the reply Dumbledore, but unless thez is played completely different than he usually does thats no more scummy then when he plays pro town cop.
This kind of goes hand-in-hand with the prior comment. A bit about our site – we DO use a fair amount of meta in our reads (which is why I’m generally successful when playing mafia over there as I have… over a 90% success rate).
In post 519, Sixx wrote:you're not scum hunting, you're simply trying to follow up on this old BW and do not seem to understand why people are moving away from it. If you added something that was "new" to the thez bw topic then sure, go ahead and pile all of the previously mentioned things up on it with your new reasons as well but you simply are using what other people have said and apparently have not seen the replies.
While I kind of disagree with the hypocrisy here, I do agree on the aspect of novelty, as I believe I commented in a post at the time.
In post 611, Sixx wrote:Sure, I'd agree with you if he had decided to add Ztife onto his scum list, he did not.
There was a comment about this, and I’d like to mention that he did not actually put camo on the scum list, but rather implied it was a PL.
In post 606, Sixx wrote:UNVOTE: Ztife
VOTE: Darthe how the hell are you going to say somebody's unquestionably scum and not place a vote? it just makes no god damn sense.
This does seem like a bit of BS, but I do understand where he comes from. Darthe almost said Sora was obvscum, but votes a policy lynch which IS somewhat nonsensical.
In post 623, Sixx wrote:& then thez goes from being so obvscum to being town... your guys' claims are a joke at best.
An add on to the previous comment, he’s obviously rather pissed at the voting, though this is a bit over the top.
So, after that, I went on and explained why I felt the wagon was a terrible wagon, and you can find that in my prior post about Sixx as I do not feel the need to rehash it, but I am going to make an analysis statement.
In relation to the first comment, I feel that maybe I am relying a bit too much on the meta, but I feel a null at best from Sixx. Could he be more engaged? Sure, but he usually isn’t that engaged D1 whether mafia or town. I do feel that it leans slightly town due to his frustration with where the votes and reads of some people headed, especially when the wagon was piled onto me.
Satisfactory, Nacho? And also, thank you for your analysis.
Expect another post shortly which involves less Sixx.
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