NY 160B - Welcome to Castle Zar - TIME FOR FIREWORKS!

Johhog · Post Post #850 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:30 am

Guys, look at the deadline. We really have to avoid a no lynch here.

UNVOTE: Konowa
VOTE: SnowStorm

Next best suspect.

SnowStorm · Post Post #851 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:59 am

Looking back at Zach's latest posts, it becomes more obvious that he's scum. In #763, he reached a list of 4 suspects through PoE and said he'd try to narrow down that list even more by reading their ISO's, which he only started doing by #794. On #798 he posts the results, curiously it seems he only ISO'ed Konowa and me, who were the most suspected of his list of 4. Aside from that first listing, he never mentions Arthur or DV again, which tells me he never read their ISO's, because even if he didn't suspect them as much as the other two, as town, he would have still read them to reassure himself. That's what town does.

Back to #798. The only result he got from Konowa's ISO was that he has few posts and needs to post more. No mention of content, just fluff. About me he mentions that I had only voted twice, some fluff on Baby Spice, and that I'm not conveying what my suspicions are. It doesn't look bad on a first read, but if he wanted to know more about my suspicions, why didn't he ask me? IF he wanted to see more from me and Konowa, why didn't he try to interact with us? The answer is simple, he doesn't care, he's scum.

Now on to his last post #840. Konowa and I have posted more and he acknowledges that the activity has risen, he also says some fluff about Konowa's increase in activity and how it was and wasn't a point in his favor. The only other thing he talked about was Tammy's speculation that if I was scum she'd already be dead. While that sounds very interesting, it's something that can't really been taken into account in this game, because of a number of variables. So instead of commenting on his suspect's posts or interacting with them, he chose to interact with Tammy about something that's irrelevant and he does so because it's not irrelevant to Tammy and he sees that it's a factor she's taking into account. He wants us to think he'll take it into account too, because it's the safest to be on her side than to pursue my lynch and risk looking like he ignored the info Tammy posted. Meanwhile, he ignored my vote on him, DV's Konowa vote, Konowa's replies to DV and a bunch of other stuff.

Tell me people, how is he not scum?

DeasVail · Post Post #852 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:23 am

In post 851, SnowStorm wrote:Aside from that first listing, he never mentions Arthur or DV again, which tells me he never read their ISO's, because even if he didn't suspect them as much as the other two, as town, he would have still read them to reassure himself. That's what town does.

I would like Zach's response to this in particular.

Although I don't necessarily agree with the post.

Empire · Post Post #853 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:17 am

Kinda forgot the deadline was so soon <_<

Will vote for any one of the five I mentioned since I think they all have a decent shot at being scum, preference is still Zach though with my least preferred lynch maybe being NS.

Going to be out today since it's my friend's birthday but I should be here tonight and all of tomorrow.

Empire · Post Post #854 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:20 am

One thing I will say, though, in case I forget or I don't have a chance to say this later...please do not leave DV in your blind spots. Thanks.

Zachrulez · Post Post #855 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:51 am

In post 852, DeasVail wrote:
In post 851, SnowStorm wrote:Aside from that first listing, he never mentions Arthur or DV again, which tells me he never read their ISO's, because even if he didn't suspect them as much as the other two, as town, he would have still read them to reassure himself. That's what town does.

I would like Zach's response to this in particular.

Although I don't necessarily agree with the post.

Not mentioning them doesn't mean I didn't read them. I just wouldn't don't have anything to say about them without being particularly nitpicky about them at this point, which isn't something I really like to do.

Zachrulez · Post Post #856 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:51 am

In post 855, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 852, DeasVail wrote:
In post 851, SnowStorm wrote:Aside from that first listing, he never mentions Arthur or DV again, which tells me he never read their ISO's, because even if he didn't suspect them as much as the other two, as town, he would have still read them to reassure himself. That's what town does.

I would like Zach's response to this in particular.

Although I don't necessarily agree with the post.

Not mentioning them doesn't mean I didn't read them. I just wouldn't
don't
have anything to say about them without being particularly nitpicky about them at this point, which isn't something I really like to do.

DeasVail · Post Post #857 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:53 am

What are you reads on Arthur and myself?

DeasVail · Post Post #858 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:57 am

Oh never mind, I misunderstood your post.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #859 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:57 am

Vote count right now is 3/3 between Zach/SS, right?:

Zachrulez (3): Ser Arthur Dayne, Konowa, SnowStorm
SnowStorm (3): Zachrulez, DeasVail, Johhog

Tammy, who do you prefer more right now? As my strongest townread, I'm leaning a lot on your thoughts

(Personally though, as everyone can see, I currently prefer Zach)

Zachrulez · Post Post #860 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:02 am

In post 857, DeasVail wrote:What are you reads on Arthur and myself?

Null leaning town on Arthur. His posting style reminds me of my own actually.

Null on you. Haven't really been able to get a strong pang on either the scum or town side on any of your posts. I'd lynch you on POE before Arthur at this point.

Empire · Post Post #861 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:39 am

OH SHIT I JUST SAW THIS...

This game is no longer ongoing.

I was able to read MoI as town in that game fairly easily - his pushes have a lot more meat and substance to them in that game than in here and he's generally a lot more cocky and aggressive in his pushes. Compare the way he pushes me in this game to the way he pushes ThAd and The Fonz in that one and I think you can clearly see the difference. That's the main reason I was saying he wasn't being "mean" here in response to DV but I finally got a chance to bring this game up.

Empire · Post Post #862 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:40 am

There's also a Micro (the bodyswap one) that I believe recently finished that I want to take a look at but I'll do it when I come back tonight.

SnowStorm · Post Post #863 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:31 pm

In post 860, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 857, DeasVail wrote:What are you reads on Arthur and myself?

Null leaning town on Arthur. His posting style reminds me of my own actually.

Null on you. Haven't really been able to get a strong pang on either the scum or town side on any of your posts. I'd lynch you on POE before Arthur at this point.

Null reads at this point are kind of worrisome. Do you also need to see more of them? Konowa's low activity was apparently your biggest point against him, he posted more and you didn't take any conclusion of it; you also said you wanted to see more of me and you haven't commented on anything I've said posteriorly. Now you read two players with high activity and there's nothing in their posts that can make you formulate a clear read on them. Do you get where I'm going with this? You used low activity as a pretext to suspect players, because there was not enough content for you to make a proper read, but you can't give a proper read on people with high content either. So my conclusion is, you're not even trying and you should be if you're town.

DeasVail · Post Post #864 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:37 pm

I think I'll read over things and make a decision tonight.

Nobody Special · Post Post #865 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:18 pm

And I got busy.

Have re-read a bit, though, and ready to lynch Zach.

Vote: Zach

Zar · Post Post #866 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:12 pm

The Zar family has long been involved in Diplomatic relationships among the Westerosi and Scummer communities, before and after their crucial participation in peace negotiations. There have been many notable cross-overs between the realms, including Mina Martell from the Westerosi and Cogito Ergo Sum's visit to Westeros' realms and their strange alt customs.

Day 3, Votecount 3

Zachrulez (4): Ser Arthur Dayne, Konowa, SnowStorm, Nobody Special

SnowStorm (3): Zachrulez, DeasVail, Johhog

Not Voting (2):

Empire, Tammy

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: Sunday, January 13th, 2013 10:00 PM New York Time. (GMT-5)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2013-01-13 22:00:00)

Tammy · Post Post #867 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:19 pm

Nobody hammer please!

I've got some things to finish up before I do something with this game. Let me post first.

Nobody Special · Post Post #868 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:48 pm

In post 867, Tammy wrote:Nobody hammer please!

I can't hammer, I'm already on the wagon.

Tammy · Post Post #869 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:32 pm

In post 868, Nobody Special wrote:
In post 867, Tammy wrote:Nobody hammer please!

I can't hammer, I'm already on the wagon.

Tammy · Post Post #870 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:34 pm

In post 859, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:

Tammy, who do you prefer more right now? As my strongest townread, I'm leaning a lot on your thoughts

Huh? You're not ready to argue with me? You mean all I got to do to get you to listen to me is not hydra with you?

Tammy · Post Post #871 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:34 pm

Okay real post coming soon.

Tammy · Post Post #872 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:47 pm

Fuck...I'm having second thoughts on my arthur town read.

Tammy · Post Post #873 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:56 pm

No maybe not...fuck

DeasVail · Post Post #874 (ISO) » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:58 pm

Tammy, these posts in succession are a big part of my SAD townread.

In post 541, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
Vote: MoI

This is happening.

In post 542, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Btw this is from last night:

Town (S->W): Johhog, Tammy, Empire, SnowStorm, roflcopter,
Vi
,
ArcAngel9
, DeasVail

Scum (S->W): Baby Spice, Nobody Special, MagnaofIllusion, Konowa, Kingmaker

I feel like have Baby Spice where she is while voting MoI is very unlikely to come from scum. I was mainly thinking this with MoI-town, but if MoI is scum then that means he had 2 scum as his strongest scumreads, so that works too really.