Mini 1409: Storm of Songs (GAME OVER)

[DeasVail]

SAD, why is me being obvtown not a possibility?

[DeasVail]

Also, leviathan I maybe have a scumread on you for 124.

[Kthxbye]

^this

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

i haven't played for a while so i guess this is the new hotness for formatting of analysing people's iso posts

it sucks

actually, it's not.

i think it's a dumb thing they invented on the spot.

1. quoting posts never killed a man.
2. linking a post if you're too lazy/etc to quote never killed a man either.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

SAD, why is me being obvtown not a possibility?

b/c no one is deserving of obvtown yet.

unless he's willing to show me the 'obvtown', and it better not be retarded reasoning

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

My reads are this so far.

serious question:

why did you feel the need to do this now?

[Kthxbye]

I honestly can't figure out why nobody but me is voting AGar...
Firstly,

I don't like either wagon being presented.

Now, we all know that at this time DV had the majority of votes, d3x and BB were voting me (not RVS votes), and d3x had 2 votes (both RVS votes). So the "legit wagons" at this point with very little reading to figure out was for myself and DV. After I ask which wagons he's referring to not liking, we get:

I thought one of {d3x, Ser Arthur Dayne} was a legitimate wagon.

VOTE: DeasVail

That's who I'd vote for.

Complete and utter bullshit here. He didn't read any part of the game up to this point. There is no other way to explain how he "thought one of {d3x, Ser Arthur Dayne}" were legitimate wagons. Jumps onto DV with zero explanation as to why. After I call him out on it we get:

I am aware of what I did, but thanks for the play-by-play. I also have read. I just didn't meticulously count votes.

Riggs, you wanna try taking a stance on what I did instead of making an excuse for either side of the coin?

Lie, Lie, True (in the fact you can't count votes if you don't read the game). Not sure what to make of the question to Riggs. Possibly trying to deflect attention.

If anyone deserves an L-1 wagon right now, it's AGar. Time to stop messing around and vote him people

[quadz08]

Kthx's case on AGar is well-posted, and AGar claiming to have read, then calling d3x and SAD the legit wagons is hilarious.

Om's posting is uhhhhhh... special. If there is a vig, he's a solid N1 choice, IMO.

Mod: Can we get a votecount?

[DeasVail]

SAD, why is me being obvtown not a possibility?

b/c no one is deserving of obvtown yet.

unless he's willing to show me the 'obvtown', and it better not be retarded reasoning

Why did you dismiss it without asking for reasoning then?

Do you feel that your ability to read me is greater than zoidberg's?

[BBmolla]

Now that I'm at an actual computer,
VOTE: DV
serious vote.

His VOTE FOR ME post was legit scummy.

Also, hi bob, how are you, I'm town, let's have a party?

Deas is obvtown and this vote is shitty.

VOTE: quadz

Uh why

I have gut sad-and-frustrated town on Om.

Leviathan is probably town.

I honestly can't figure out why nobody but me is voting AGar...

What about GNR

[Kthxbye]

Oh, GNR is in my scummy pile, don't worry.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Do you feel that your ability to read me is greater than zoidberg's?

i call 'em like i see 'em, and no one is "obvtown" yet.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

(also, what's interesting is he decided to attack quadz for his "shitty vote" on deas, but no other voter on deas...)

[leviathan93]

My reads are this so far.

serious question:

why did you feel the need to do this now?

I always do it early. I always keep updating it. I summarize how the game goes up to a certain point so I don't have to go back and reread the entire thread. yay for helpfulness being scummy!!

[DeasVail]

Ok, the maybe has turned to a 'not really'. What prompted your decision to include the post number of each player in your analysis?

[FourTrouble]

i think he answered himself here pretty well, and also how the HELL does that action make him scummy in the slightest and deserve a vote for it? =P i say it doesn't. unless you and GNR are a scum team and you are trying to throw the trail off of your buddy. =P THAT would make sense.

His answer wasn't that good, not sure what you're talking about. The action makes him scummy because 1) he voting someone he don't actually think is scummy as opposed to people he thinks are scummy, and 2) it's hypocrisy.

Explain the whoel bit about how I'm trying to "throw the trail" off GNR? I'm pretty sure I was the first one to find a problem with his confusion and lack of a stance... The fact my vote is on BB don't mean I think GNR is town - both looking like scum right now.

[FourTrouble]

Let's talk about not contributing. You got force-replaced from [ongoing game] for being prodded too many times. What assurances do we have you won't do that this game?

Yea, trying to discredit me on the basis of actions that occurred in a different game? Pretty scummy. FOS on Zoid.

[leviathan93]

Ok, the maybe has turned to a 'not really'. What prompted your decision to include the post number of each player in your analysis?

What prompted me to do that was because of looking out of lurkers as well as the content of the number of posts they had. If they have a lot of posts but no worthy content THAT seems scummy to me. If they have few posts but a LOT of content they could be town or scum trying to fit in a ton of stuff like they are helping but not add much. being in the middle is a way that I see true town being. they don't care how they post because they are innocent. however scum try to find ways around posting or lurk without being caught. I think every bit of information is helpful in catching scum. I also could have posted how far apart their posts were. and then we could look at that and I feel THAT would tell us things.

[FourTrouble]

Do you feel that your ability to read me is greater than zoidberg's?

Weird questions, feels contrived. Not even sure what you trying to accomplish.

[leviathan93]

i think he answered himself here pretty well, and also how the HELL does that action make him scummy in the slightest and deserve a vote for it? =P i say it doesn't. unless you and GNR are a scum team and you are trying to throw the trail off of your buddy. =P THAT would make sense.

His answer wasn't that good, not sure what you're talking about. The action makes him scummy because 1) he voting someone he don't actually think is scummy as opposed to people he thinks are scummy, and 2) it's hypocrisy.

Explain the whoel bit about how I'm trying to "throw the trail" off GNR? I'm pretty sure I was the first one to find a problem with his confusion and lack of a stance... The fact my vote is on BB don't mean I think GNR is town - both looking like scum right now.

His answer was good. he admits that he has a hard time reading him and that under pressure he replaces out or he will produce more content. BOTH of which help the game. the more content is essential to this game. THAT is why i think he answered himself well. he does think GNR is scum. so he votes him because of it also. and its quite simple really. if you and GNR are scumbuddies then you would want to remove pressure from your partner. its a theory and theories can be proven wrong. not saying its in stone. I just think your reasoning on BBmolla lacks a little luster.

[xRECKONERx]

Votecount 1.3

Om (0):
Zoidberg (0):
D3x (0):
Guy_Named_Riggs (3): Cyberbob, BBmolla, d3x
Quadz08 (1): Zoidberg
DeasVail (4): quadz08, Om, Ser Arthur Dayne, AGar
leviathan93 (0):
Cyberbob (0):
Ser Arthur Dayne (0):
Kthxbye (1): leviathan93
BBmolla (1): FourTrouble
Four Trouble (0):
AGar (1): Kthxbye

Not voting: Guy_Named_Riggs

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is on 01/27/2013 at 1:00PM EST.

[leviathan93]

UNVOTE:

[FourTrouble]

leviathan, you sure you find this good:

Oh I think he's scummy, and I made it clear I didn't like his post earlier within my post.

But I have a hard time telling between GNR being scummy and GNR being GNR.

So I figure I vote him and he either replaces out after fear lurking or produces more content.

We'll just wait and see.

What I see is BBmolla saying: I'm gonna lodge my vote on the easiest guy to vote - GNR - even though I ALWAYS have a problem reading GNR, and then I'm just gonna wait for the guy to either replace out or produce content, though I expect he'll replace out so I'm just wasting my vote for now, cause either way I can't tell if GNR is scummy or just being GNR, so I'm just gonna sit around without doing anything helpful, even though I'm critisizing GNR (and Four and Zoid) for not doing anything either.

It's a great move to make as scum, cause now BB don't have to produce any content himself. He can just sit there and say he's waiting for GNR to make a move.

[leviathan93]

IF that is the ONLY thing that he does, then yes, I will admit that that is scummy, but I really don't see how he will just be waiting for that and not provide anymore content. it would be too obvious a move to make if he just sits around and does nothing and only says that he is hoping GNR will do something. He DOES say he thinks GNR is being scummy. and so he votes him. i think there are more reasons that he voted him then just wanting him to replace out of add more content. he sees him as scummy. and honestly i see better choices then BBmolla as scum at the moment.

[DeasVail]

Vote: Ser Arthur Dayne

Still not sure of this, but the best place for my vote right now I think.