In post 1774, SlySly wrote:
I'm saying Parama is NYPD scum. That doesn't necessarily make his role "cop".
Wait - your entire point is that Parama slipped that cops are a faction. Now the cop faction isnt all cops?
In post 1773, LlamaFluff wrote:
Just to check - You are saying that Parama knows Six just scumclaimed, will be lynched at the latest the point where first cop scum flips, and starts defending him for that fact instead of continuing his over aggressive play and hard bussing him?
I'm saying I asked a question of Sixx. Parama aggressively came in and answered for Sixx. Parama had no idea Sixx was going to be modkilled, so he really had no reason to hard buss. There was no pressure on Sixx at the time. This was right after Ztife's soft claim and his wagon began to fizzle.
You are again dodging the point. Regardless of modkill stuff, for what you claim to be true to be true - Parama would have realized Six scumslipped and was going to be caught for it and opted to defend him. Even if there is no pressure its still a slip.
In post 1773, LlamaFluff wrote:
Again - your challenge for me if you want to persue this path: Show me a game where scum do not have any form of safeclaim when claiming their real role will get them lynched.
I don't need your approval, or Parama's who rudely told me to butt out about it, to pursue this or any other path I choose. Practically every game I've played in, scum didn't have fake claims given to them. In fact, I've only ever played in one they did.
And im asking for the game, because if their real claims are going to get them lynched - scum ALWAYS have fakeclaims. You say they never have in your games - are you talking about things like opens and normals? Where there is no flavor? So there is no point of a fakeclaim?
From the old LT list mod - go look at all of the recent LT games. Any where scum were bad guys they had fakeclaims.
Way to use "Parama was a jerk" for "why I wont prove my point" though.
In post 1773, LlamaFluff wrote:
I have seen ONE mod ever screw this up ever and that was them not giving a wierd win-condition third party any fakeclaim. Again, I really doubt SC breaks rank of what he has done for the last four years to suddenly make a poorly designed game.
So which one is it?
1) Six didnt use a fakeclaim and Parama decided to defend confirmed scum
2) SC didnt provide fakeclaims, Parama as scum said they do have fakeclaims
3) SC only gave safeclaims to Paramas faction but not Six's when cops are shown to be scum
4) SC only gave fakeclaims to some scum when the entire faction is scum by flavor
I've never played an SC game before. I explained which I thought it is, my #4 in my previous post.
Okay - but you are avoiding answering the question again. Which one is it? They all look pretty implausable to me at this point. Im assuming you are going to go for #1 though so....
Slys case is
Parama realized that Six claimed cop so he would be confirmed NYPD scum which is maybe not only cops and has fakeclaims, yet Six decided not to use one. When Six claimed Parama realized that Six was going to be caught as scum as soon as it became obvious that NYPD was scum in the game and because of this he decided to start defending Six. In the event Parama is not NYPD scum he is other scum who has fakeclaims while the flavor screwed NYPD dont.
Basically that right?
