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Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:12 am

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What's the case on AJ?
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Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:12 am

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OOoh lovely Albus. Any particular reason or...
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Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:18 am

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After Ztife's latest post, I think I'm going to settle on my vote. I do love how you changed the story, though:
Ztife wrote:I claimed my car and character, and
a first aid kit/toolbox (honestly, in my head its the same thing, and both exist btw)
and everything else is pretty self explainatory. Was it neccessary to claim my first aid kit/toolbox to begin with? Does a vig usually claims that he holds a gun? My fast cars making temporary ambulances is a paraphrase from my role pm, I just claimed it as it is. Do you think I would wanna raise suspicion and use such a doubtful car claim if I was fake claiming? Also who are you to argue that my car is slow?
Didn't you say it was a first aid toolbox? Because here you said it's a first aid kit OR a toolbox. At least, that's how I see it.
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Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:25 am

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In post 2049, Albus Dumbledore wrote:JacobSavage is also a capital choice for a lynch. Thar be scum.


JacobSavage's posting strike me as town. Mind sharing your opinions on the whole proceeding of events? You've seemed to miss quite a bit.
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Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:40 am

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In post 1785, Ztife wrote:Well, I have a first aid tool box if it helps with anything.

To those who thinks that my car is lame; what is a doc suppose to drive then? A lambourgini?
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Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:55 am

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In post 2014, Darthe wrote:
In post 2002, ArcAngel9 wrote:Yes, I agree. I am up for any Wagon that everybody decides to go..
UNVOTE


I think I threw up in my mouth a little. Fuck it, let's just lynch who the hell ever and see what happens, that's a winning strategy right?!


Also, Llamafluff predecessor slip still is not logical as it can be read in such a way that it isn't a scum slip so... I am assuming the best based on each players game to that point and past, which is obvtown.


Not sure that is going to help us WIN but at least its going to get us out the gutter.... we all going in circles from last 3 weeks on this page... and we are still at starting point..... (except,, Sixx has got himself killed)
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Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:55 am

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10 pages in:

I would have had a town read on BirdAndBeast until it came to their justification for their town read on ArcAngel, which made little sense to me; I'd like them to explain this:
In post 216, BirdAndBeast wrote:Multiple times I was ready to comment on something, only to see that Arc had already beaten me to the punch.

That said, I think their case on thezmon is reasonable, and I'll be interested to see why that wagon vanished.

A couple of people had some weird reasons for not wanting to lynch Roger. The most notable was sixx:
In post 39, Sixx wrote:Only reason that I'm not going to vote Roger is simply because this is his first game and I'm going to hope he learns something from it.

I can see this being scum making excuses for not voting a buddy. We've also got
In post 139, ArcAngel9 wrote:lynching newbies is a loss to town becuase most newbies are possible townies.

which is true on average for everyone, so it's hardly a reason to not lynch someone.

Killer Apple is potentially scum, since he came up with a vote on AJ as obv. scum when BigAndBeast started pushing sixx as scum, and he tried to write his vote off as a reaction test.

I have a town read on Parama.

At this point, if I was going to vote based on the first ten pages and knowing what xixx flipped, I'd be voting KillerApple.
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Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:57 am

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In post 2029, Baby Spice wrote:Ztife is not standing out as obvscum??


Ztife claimed himself as doctor. If he is town, he will be likely night killed..otherwise, we will lynch him on next day.
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Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:57 am

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Can someone direct me to the LlamaFluff predecesor scum slip or whatever it is?
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Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:08 pm

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In post 1095, Parama wrote:
In post 1092, SlySly wrote:So Sixx, are dangerous drivers scum in your mind?

1. Jailkeeper in a car setup = cop car, all cops do these days is look for bad drivers :V
2. SC provided fake role PMs for the scum because this is a SC game, stop looking in to it


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Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:30 pm

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So he's scum for correctly guessing that Sixx was a cop after he claimed to have handcuffs and a cell, and insinuating that that scum have fake-claims (when they probably don't since sixx essentially quoted his)?

I don't see this as scum slip.
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Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:31 pm

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^ The entire thing is retarded. It almost makes sense, enough so that if someone is skimming on a day or two then it works, but not when you truly consider it.
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Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:34 pm

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VOTE COUNT

Aj The Epic (4): BirdAndBeast, Albus Dumbledore, Edosurist, Baby Spice
BirdAndBeast (1): Aj The Epic
killerjester (2): curiouskarmadog, Jal
LlamaFluff (4): Bumi, PeregrineV, njoseph, Boniface, Ztife
Skyhook (1): JacobSavage
The Mini-Librarian (1): UVApe
Ztife (7): Nachomamma8, LlamaFluff, killerjester, The Mini-Librarian, Skyhook, thezmon221, Darthe
Not voting (3): ArcAngel9, jmj3000, Zdenek

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Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:06 pm

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To the people who know njoseph's meta, is pushing for an information lynch something that he would do as scum? In my experience, scum are usually hesitant to push for much other than a "scum lynch."
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Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:13 pm

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Ask Tazaro :P
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Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:16 pm

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In post 2061, Darthe wrote:^ The entire thing is retarded. It almost makes sense, enough so that if someone is skimming on a day or two then it works, but not when you truly consider it.
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Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:17 pm

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In post 2064, njoseph wrote:Ask Tazaro :P

Why don't you just tell me?
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Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:19 pm

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I would use "information lynch" as an excuse on day one as a scum, especially in a large game.
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Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:18 pm

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In post 2065, thezmon221 wrote:
In post 2061, Darthe wrote:^ The entire thing is retarded. It almost makes sense, enough so that if someone is skimming on a day or two then it works, but not when you truly consider it.
Like your neighbor theory?


Apparently so since nobody is voting her.
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Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:42 pm

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Through Page 20:

Albus Dumbledore is probably town (for the rapid read change on thez) and I strongly doubt that he is scum with sixx.

I think BirdAndBeast is probably town. I do not think they are sixx aligned and I like some of the things they are choosing to care about.

Bumi seems like town to me; although he defends xixx in 288 it doesn't really look like a buddy defending a buddy,but it could be something to come back to. I think is analysis of AJ's post as splitting hairs was spot on. Plus I like that he found Killer Apple scummy, and his town read on ArcAngel seems legitimate, since he's even questioning people's null reads on her.

The Bride/IdiotKing slot has done nothing and I agree with the point that Bride's vote on Roger was bad.

Heather is possibly scum and Jal's play in this game is completely different from her play in ADWD Mafia she she was town. In that game she was rather chaotic in her attacks, but in this game, she has few (two?) scum reads.

I feel pretty good about Nacho. I've seen him as town twice recently, and he feels the same here so far.

I think that Jeck is horrendous. His 443 looks like he's trying to carefully justify a vote logically, so that it can't be attacked, but his rationale is insane. He also changes the justification for his vote - initially his reason was that thez was most likely scum, but then turned around and called his vote a vote for an information lynch, and then goes back to calling Thez scum.

unseencamo's initial vote on B&B was for a shitty reason and he kept it there to see his reaction after he admitted it was a shitty vote, which sucks, so he could easily be scum.
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Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:15 pm

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Since I asked, I may as well say that I at least partially grok the AJ wagon. In 502 he subtly defends six without giving a read on him and in 552 he continues to push njoe without giving a read on Sixx.
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Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:54 pm

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Through 30 pages:

Zifre's replace in post 503 is awful, and his Darthe vote is questionable.

Thez is looking much better than he was.

Jeck is starting to seem townish.

Jal looks a bit better after using meta to defend AA and stating a few scum reads.

I have very mixed feeling about Sly-sly, but the bottom line is that his case on AA is questionable, he defended Sixx, and his suggestion that there are two scum-team could have been a scum-slip.
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Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:25 pm

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In post 2052, thezmon221 wrote:After Ztife's latest post, I think I'm going to settle on my vote. I do love how you changed the story, though:
Ztife wrote:I claimed my car and character, and
a first aid kit/toolbox (honestly, in my head its the same thing, and both exist btw)
and everything else is pretty self explainatory. Was it neccessary to claim my first aid kit/toolbox to begin with? Does a vig usually claims that he holds a gun? My fast cars making temporary ambulances is a paraphrase from my role pm, I just claimed it as it is. Do you think I would wanna raise suspicion and use such a doubtful car claim if I was fake claiming? Also who are you to argue that my car is slow?
Didn't you say it was a first aid toolbox? Because here you said it's a first aid kit OR a toolbox. At least, that's how I see it.


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Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:26 pm

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In post 2072, Ztife wrote:What's the difference?


Toolbox sound forced car-like.

How do you save people? That much should be in your role and you havent answered it yet.
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Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:59 pm

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Ztife, why do all of your posts read as someone resigned to death or defeated? If I was in the hot seat and had a PR I would want to protect myself in the interests of the town at least.

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