Mini 1415: Fairly Oddparents Mafia Game Over

[Sanjay]

That's beside the point.

The point is that there's this weird inconsistency between this post, the posts before it, and the posts after it.

Benmage apparently saw stuff that was scummy. Not from me, Balrog, or Vifam, apparently, because he goes on to say that we all look town. Probably not Human Destroyer either, given this. Yet, the very next thing he does is come after me based on my nameclaim and defend Zeph. Why?

He had a ball. Why didn't he run with it?

[numberQ]

Vote Count (1.2)

-L- [1] Seanald
adorkable [1] PeregrineV
Balrog [0]
Benmage [1] Sanjay
captaineddie [0]
Human Destroyer [0]
kiwieagle [0]
Klick [0]

[L-2] MrZepher [5] Klick, Human Destroyer, Vifam, Balrog, captaineddie

PeregrineV [2] adorkable, benmage
Sanjay [0]
Seanald [0]
Vifam [2] kiwieagle, MrZepher

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Not Voting:

-L-

Deadline:

(expired on 2013-02-12 16:45:00)

[numberQ]

New rule added:

[-]

Upon death, Jorgen comes and takes all your remaining Wish Muffins, so you can't make anymore wishes. The Fairies have to conserve their magic somehow, right?

The game number has been fixed, as well.

[Benmage]

That's beside the point.

The point is that there's this weird inconsistency between this post, the posts before it, and the posts after it.

Benmage apparently saw stuff that was scummy. Not from me, Balrog, or Vifam, apparently, because he goes on to say that we all look town. Probably not Human Destroyer either, given this. Yet, the very next thing he does is come after me based on my nameclaim and defend Zeph. Why?

He had a ball. Why didn't he run with it?

Actually my early intuitions from that post did resonate, and if you look at my list you can see this. Moreover some of the early feeling(gut) reads have changed, hence why I said outdated.

But I have PV, and L both who posted prior to the one you link. Both who I have listed as scum.

What ball in this games first 4 pages do you think I can run with it?

I have PV pegged as scum, and I have been defending Zeph whom I think is town and an easy target at this point.

I'm confused as to what inconsistencies you are dealing with or seeing? Because I said I might have seen a few scummy things, but haven't specified them? Have I really mentioned why PV is scum in my eyes? No. There's a reason to that. One you'll have to wait on but an aspect being the significant less contribution to the game by several individuals.

[Benmage]

What's to review? I'm just asking you what you meant.

Is it not obvious in the context written?

I felt early town tells from some. Gut read (but stronger than the scum gut ones).

And early scum from a few.

[Sanjay]

Those few being Peregrine and L?

Why not go after them? You are the one who claimed to have a few scum reads on page 4. Not me. And you have barely pursued them. You seem to be going after town points with a lot more zeal than you are making your cases.

[Sanjay]

Benmage, how would you feel about an -L- wagon?

[Benmage]

Those few being L, PV, and Klick but on an earlier iso of Klick I changed that. Again I haven't looked at the 4 pages closely to confirm that. Nor do I think I will as it was quick thoughts that don't have the same relevance as other concentrations.

......Yes, I just said I have purposely not made a concrete case.

I feel significantly better about PV than L.

L, I'm torn with with... but PoE with other town reads is against her.

[Benmage]

@Seanald,

feel free to sheep me.

You were lynched last game because your play was subpar, I hope you are more active this game.

[PeregrineV]

We should claim our rolenames

I'm just not interested in a game where everyone just follows some list , I'll do it but I won't enjoy it.
I wanted spontaneous disorderly wish making

What is your rolename?

Why not? It doesn't hurt anything and I think it gives some extra spice to the game

Tell me your rolename then

No you haven't

Oh, he's Trixie

Alright, I'm Remy Buxaplenty, what are you, Sanjay?

So I'm assuming Sanjay is actually Sanjay, that's pretty funny

Can we NOT break the game and just play by our own rules. GOD that would be so cool

Imagine how awesome it would be everyone just wishing for whatever the fuck they want to wish for

If we have to go by some crappy list I am going to rebel and wish for something totally different

-L-, what do you think about Sanjay getting Sanjay as his rolename?

Also, post your freakin' rolenames

If there is Chad, Tad definitely has to be in this game, right?

You get an IMAGE of the kid you have in the PM, unless you are blind there is no way you could mistake black skin and white skin

Hey Grine, what is your rolename?

Why not? I just thought it'd be interesting

What is your rolename by the way

Remy - Me
Veronica- Kiwi
L-Francis
Sanjay - Sanjay
Tad - Zeph
Balrog - Trixie

Off the top of my head
Adorkable is probably Vickey

HD is AJ
Klick is Chester

Everyone else has yet to claim I think

Soooooo I'm assuming Timmy in this game?

Pretty weird if he wasn't

So no organizing wishes, but let's all massclaim our rolenames.

Wishes that allow us to do almost anything, including win the game are boring, but rolename discussion "gives extra spice"?

Don't want to "everyone just follows some list" about wishes, but hey, rolenames!!

How does that knowledge help you catch scum? And how is your insistence on it town?

Vote: Vifam

[Klick]

Err

Fine. I'm willing to say that I may be wrong about PV.

[PeregrineV]

Err

Fine. I'm willing to say that I may be wrong about PV.

Since PV is here, you can say why.

[Balrog]

Balrog: Do you still think Vifam is scum? (Is he bussing his buddy?)

Unfortunately, I'm not the best at telling dumb from scum when motive isn't clear.

Hey PV, I asked you a question.

[Benmage]

Err

Fine. I'm willing to say that I may be wrong about PV.

Since PV is here, you can say why.

So your curious why Klicks view on you may not be town.... but see no reason to comment or question anything I've said in regards to you...

[PeregrineV]

Balrog: Do you still think Vifam is scum? (Is he bussing his buddy?)

Unfortunately, I'm not the best at telling dumb from scum when motive isn't clear.

Hey PV, I asked you a question.

Do you mean this?

Teacher =/= Kid

You keep rubbing me the wrong way. Any particular reason why you're choosing to act like this?

Assuming you didn't mean it rhetorically, then what are you talking about? Specifically.

[Sanjay]

PV, how would you rate the strength of that Vifam case?

[Benmage]

PV why have you still refused to nameclaim?

[PeregrineV]

@Sanjay.... being obstinate is not cool.

I wish Ben was town.

@Ben

- Did it work?

pedit: True...lol

Vote: Zephyr

Do you have wishes?

You really want answers?
OK. Let's start with 2 Benmages.
There is town Benmage, and there is scum Benmage.
The two are different, but very similar. My best bet for finding out is from talking to you.

So here, I was expecting a response along the lines of wasting my wish, since you're already town. But, you asked if I have wishes. As scum, I say of course, but I'm lying. As town, I say of course because it's true. So, I took your question/reponse as snark, meaing you did not want to engage in direct conversation. This keeps my read on you at neutral.

Vote PV

you wanna wagon, wagon here.

Not sure what you want me to say. You hoping on a wagon is not alignment-defining for you.

This is where I'm at:
Town:
Human Destroyer
Balrog
Benmage
Klick
MrZephyr
Sanjay
Vifam

Slight town:
kiwieagle

Neutral:
adorkable

N/A
Seanald
captaineddie

Slight Scum:
-L-

Scum:
PeregrineV

I know your wrong on at least one, and think you are wrong on at least another. But hey, thanks for the list.

Enough Semantics.... Vote PV.

More posting that does not make YOU town or scum.

[PeregrineV]

PV, how would you rate the strength of that Vifam case?

At first it was annoying, but when I went back to read Vifam ISO, it became alarming. So, barring some rational explanation why coordinating wishes to win is no fun, but failing to nameclaim equals scum, I'm pretty convinced Vi is scum.

[Human Destroyer]

I don't see the scum motivation from Vifam here.

[PeregrineV]

I don't see the scum motivation from Vifam here.

Do you see town motivation?

[PeregrineV]

PV why have you still refused to nameclaim?

1. Because I want to know why it's important to Vi and to you.
2. Other stuff ongoing.

But, based on non-bastard mod post #1,

Setup:

10 people will receive this:

Role Name

Paragraph of flavor!

[-]

During the day, you may talk and vote.

[-]

You also have 2 Magic Muffins! You may use them to make wishes at night. See the thread for wish limitations.

[-]

You win when the Anti-Fairies are no longer a threat.

Game thread is here. Confirm via PM.

3 people will receive this:

Role Name

Paragraph of flavor!

[-]

You may talk to your partners at night here.

[-]

At night your faction may backfire one person’s wish, which reverses the wish’s effect. Your faction may also kill someone at night.

[-]

You win when the kids are no longer a threat, or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. Confirm via PM.

I'll claim. What's the worse that can happen?

Timmy Turner

Now you can explain why it's so relevant and why it's so important that Vi has done nothing else all game.

[PeregrineV]

@Balrog

- Can you group the players in groups of three, excluding yourself?

[captaineddie]

I'm with Human Destroyer here, I really don't see the scumness in Vifam. As a townie, I completely understand the unwillingness to break this game. There's SO many ways of doing it, I signed up to play this game because it's fun, while winning is great, it's also boring. Also I want to get creative with my wishes as well.

Vifam's need for roleclaim to me in the beginning was to, as they say, put some spice into the game. But the more PV denied to do it, the more it got suspicious, what? Does mod give you a "Anti-fairy" nickname like "Sanderson"? This forces you to claim a name. If by the offchance you did have a name that gave away your role, you'd be force to lie and claim another name, which someone counterclaims... we get more info.

Basically, small amount of effort, for a SMALL SMALL chance of a large information.

I really didn't get why you just didn't claim in the first place PV. What was the harm?!

I'm just not interested in a game where everyone just follows some list , I'll do it but I won't enjoy it.
I wanted spontaneous disorderly wish making

Totally understand, I just want to make some wishes! =D So excited.

[-L-]

Sup, Im the actual Chad, so that clears up nothing? although Im believing that zephyr simply made a mistake, Tad does sound more black.

Benmage you killed me last game we were in but I still want to sheep you does that make me gay?

also going on a hunch Vifam is tots town.

and -L- is not, VOTE: -L-

im voting L off the basis that he is posting no content due to fear of saying the wrong thing but still trying to look active something plausible considering all the strategy talk.

I am a woman by the way.

I do not fear posting - I have nothing to say because there is a knotted mess (8 pages of almost no content) to analyze. If you all would stop hee hawing and jabber jibbering I might put some effort into it. But you all seem to know each other and it may just be that.

Until then, I can only try to solidify this jello with my post.

Pedit: and close to 20 posts now unread. I'll get to it in 4 hours.